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Porsche Boxster V8 Conversion ???


DemoX
07-27-2003, 08:15 AM
Is that possible ??

that would be nice but would i run ??

Please Reply !!

Audi Ryder
09-12-2003, 02:57 AM
It would be nice, but I wouldn't suggest it. I'd rather put the 3.6 Twin Turbo from the 993 in the boxster, then you could call it the boxster "t", instead of the boxster "s". If anybody's out there to do a wicked conversion, consult me first!!!!! :sunglasse

Conversion Specialist (http://boykinracing.us/index4.htm)

Pringles
10-13-2003, 09:09 PM
Porsche Boxster V8 Conversion ???

Are you quite mad?

Turbo or GT2 engine is much more realistic. GT3/Carrera RS engine would be perfect for this car imo.

PUBLIUS
01-22-2004, 01:59 PM
Pringles, the 986 (Boxster) is not designed to handle that much power.

DemoX, why would you want to ruin one of the best sportscars in the world?

Pringles
01-23-2004, 10:15 AM
You could upgrade the suspension and stiffen up the chassis to cope with the extra power. That's not a problem. The GT3/GT3 RS engine is the ultimate n/a boxer engine and I really think it would be perfect for the Boxster. Turbo Boxster would be silly.

PUBLIUS
01-23-2004, 03:04 PM
Turbo Boxster has been done by AeroCorp. It couldn't make its claims.

Adding that much power to a Boxster is just silly. The Boxster is what it is and that is NOT a race car. Putting a 380 hp GT3 or 415 / 450 hp turbo or 486 hp GT2 engine in a roadster is asinine and the sign of someone that has no clue. Either buy the 996 with the appropriate engine, or go buy yourself Japcrap to mod out. Ruining a Boxster is just silly.

sprokett
01-30-2004, 05:44 PM
I looked into the task of dropping a more powerful engine in my boxster S a few months ago…I got talking to one of the engineers and he actually encouraged me and told me he stuck a 993 engine in the old school beetles…and it was great fun. Anyway he said I could buy a 996 engine (and gearbox) and fit that to the boxster with absolutely zero problems. So two finger salute to the clueless gentleman that suggested the boxster can’t handle more power…it can handle it with minor tweaks in the suspension and an upgrade in the brakes. In fact I’m thinking of

I had the option of going for a 911 but I wanted a mid-engine, rear wheel drive roadster (I’m 22 years old). The 911 has two pretend seats and isn’t conceived solely as a convertible (so the coupe 911 handles much better). OK time for the controversial statement now…the only reason Porsche doesn’t build a more powerful boxster is that they are too busy making incredibly ugly trucks named after some kind of chilly and now I hear they are working on a saloon as well. And please no one mention that the revenue from the Cayenne funded the Carrera GT project and allowed Porsche to stay an independent company because it’s a silly rumour you heard in a magazine…and without any evidence.

PUBLIUS
01-31-2004, 09:28 AM
Sprockett, you have only posted 4 times and have already proved yourself to be a twit.

Yes, a 996 engine can be used. BUT NOT THE GT2 ENGINE, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS REPLYING TO. There are rumors flying around that at some point in the future the 3.4 L 996 engine may be availiable as a n option. And no Porsche engineer told you that. At least, not if they want to keep their job. (hell of a lot more torque. you come back with a bent frame and said "he told me..." and he gets his papers. Don't think so.)

Also, I would not object nearly as vehemently to putting a 993 or 996 engine in as I would a V8.

Oh, yes, one more thing... The Cayenne Turbo my be aesthetically challenged (your opinion, not mine), but it will beat a Boxster S in almost any performance category, all while carrying 5 people...(which is not in any way meant to be construed as an insult to the Boxster S, but don't be taking pot shots at the Cayenne, it IS faster.

sprokett
01-31-2004, 02:55 PM
First off let me congratulate you…I understand you own a nice boxster 2003. I’m assuming its American spec which means with the catalytic converters and so on it’s probably around 200bhp or so. Hope you’re not kidding yourself into thinking that’s in anyway fast but at least it’s a nice solid car that looks alright with standard kit and gives you a sensation of acceleration. Now moving on to our disagreement…I’ll take the opportunity to educate you a little bit here so please put your pride aside and pay attention…

First off the engineer in question from Porsche is a close friend of my dad’s (my family races Karts professionally for jokes so we get to meet interesting individuals) and we wouldn’t get him fired even if the car did come back with a bent chassis or ‘frame’ as you so amateurly put it…It’s a boxster S for god’s sake…not a unicorn…its disposable. My second point is that a very respectable tuner by the name of Gemballa produced a run of Biturbo Boxsters in 2001. They are rated at 335.6kw / 450 bhp with 560nm / 413ft lbs of torque (at probably an insane amount of rpm). The bore is 93mm / 3.66 in and the stroke is 78 mm / 3.07 in. Ok so they didn’t drop a GT2 engine in the car but you can’t run around making retarded comments like the Boxster is not built to handle more than your self assumed amount of bhp. YES IT CAN...because ingenuity goes a long way and through modifying the appropriate parts taking the strain, the Boxster can be made into a genuine supercar by any standards. And as for the chassis bending…for god’s sake Brabus stuck a V8 with 450bhp in a crappy SLK and it was a sensation so the boxster can handle it…and if you think I’m kidding you then click on the link

http://isl.ira.uka.de/~rogina/slk/brabus/e10.htm

And lastly for the Cayenne…yes it’s faster than the Boxster S in a straight line…with 100 families in it like you say…but about a month ago I took my car to a Porsche track day and almost all the Boxsters (bar the ones driven by grandmas) really creamed the Cayenne turbos around a twisty track (the Cayenne S and Cayenne V6 are not even worth talking about)…so they AREN’T FASTER…anyway my argument is that I’m a Porsche purist…it’s supposed to be a fricking legendary SPORTS CAR manufacturer…the Cayenne(even though dynamically superb) doesn’t fit that profile…so as soon as I get the chance I’m going to exchange the Boxster for a mint condition Ferrari 355 Spyder…

PUBLIUS
02-01-2004, 09:36 AM
I agree with you that the S and base model should not be part of the discussion. The Turbo, I have read (but couldn't tell you where, as I have forgotten) turned in a slightly better time at Nurburgring. This is not to say that I would prefer to have a Cayenne, I wouldn't, but my girlfriend is pushing me to get one...

Oh, and I know all about Ferry Porsche's famous quote, but the fact of the matter is that the Porsche family has built all sorts of vehicles, from a diesel tractor, to the VW Bug, to the 959. To me, its not about how fast it goes, it is about how well its engineered.

oh, yes, and one more thing: lose the condescending attitude. Like I said before, you are just making yourself look like a twit.

sprokett
02-01-2004, 12:36 PM
Don’t be so whipped man…just tell your girlfriend if she needs an SUV to carry her shopping then its going to have to be one of the three cars below:

New Range Rover (beautiful in my opinion)

Escalade with 26inch chrome alloys (bling bling)

Hummer 2 (just to piss off green peace)

X5 (sales figures speak for themselves)

And as for my condescending attitude, I have it because it’s a privilege of being young and rich…you grow up thinking you know everything…but if that was the case then I would have known that if I overtake a guy with a pickup from the outside on a roundabout he would drive into my 4 day old brand spanking new fully loaded Touareg V8 this morning…but I didn’t know that so I spent half the day in the police station…

PUBLIUS
02-02-2004, 01:11 PM
One of these days I will click "reply with quote"...

SPROKETT SAYS:

Let me congratulate you…I understand you own a nice boxster 2003. I’m assuming its American spec which means with the catalytic converters and so on it’s probably around 200bhp or so. Hope you’re not kidding yourself into thinking that’s in anyway fast but at least it’s a nice solid car that looks alright with standard kit and gives you a sensation of acceleration" :uhoh:

PUBLIUS REPLIES:
I would like to know what your definition of fast is... 0-60 in 6.0 and a top speed of 155+ qualifies in my book, and those are conservative factory specs.

SPROCKETT SAYS:
Don’t be so whipped man…just tell your girlfriend if she needs an SUV to carry her shopping then its going to have to be one of the three cars below:

New Range Rover (beautiful in my opinion)

PUBLIUS REPLIES: Nice but not my style

Escalade with 26inch chrome alloys (bling bling) :screwy:

PUBLIUS REPLIES: Well, I guess "BLING BLING" says it all. This
vehicle, particuarly as you would have it set up screams any (or
all) of the following:

1.) Nouveau Riche, or put another way, "I have more money
than taste"
2.) "I am a gangsta wannabe"
3.) "I care more about style than substance"

Hummer 2 (just to piss off green peace)

PUBLIUS REPLIES: What is the point of this vehicle? If you want a
Hummer, shell out the $100k to get one. The H2 is ugly, can't
perform worth shit and, like the Escalade, shouts out "hey look at
me, I just spent 60 grand on a vehicle that would cost 20 grand if it
said Chevy on it..."

X5 (sales figures speak for themselves)

Outperformed by the Cayenne. Also, BMWs are a dime a dozen.

If I were going to get a vehicle that was not a 2 seat sports car, it would be one of the following:

Audi RS6 (very nice), Ferrari 456 (ridiculously overpriced, but nice),
Porsche Cayenne Turbo, or one of a few models made by Mercedes
Benz AMG.

sprokett
02-04-2004, 05:21 AM
First off, my definition of a fast automobile isn’t limited to a zero to 60 time and top speed…drive a formula 3 car…then get into your Boxster and you will know what I’m talking about. I’m sure you must have track days in America…you just turn up and spend a weekend learning a thing or two. As far as common road cars are concerned…I rate the 360 CS as fast…or if you wanna go comfort / hairdresser the SL 55. As far as the Boxster price range is concerned the Caterham 7, the TVR Tamora and the Lotus 340R are all faster and about the same price.

As for the cars I recommended…it was all 4x4 cars…not the same class as a Ferrari 456 and so on. You don’t seem to agree and that’s fine…chillax…it’s just my opinion…at the end of the day you can buy whatever you want. Just for the record this is my point of view:

Range Rover – it’s my style because although its for a girl to do her shopping…I can still use it to take my jet ski to the beach on the weekends and go dune bashing if I want (I live in the middle east by the way).

Escalade and Hummer – its funny how Americans pigeon hole people depending on the car they drive.

'This car shouts this and that car means that'…

You think I lose sleep about what people may or may not label me as? The people that I know are the only ones that matter…I don’t try to project an image through my car. I just think that this kind of car as well as the Hummer, add some kind of colour back to the mundane roads. And when a pretty girl jumps out the driver’s seat it gives a little unexpected shock to people like you that are expecting a rapper. Now don’t get me wrong, I know both are overpriced, and slow and all the things you mentioned…but I never argued otherwise. It’s always nice to have variety if you can afford to.

As for the X5…it’s actually the best value for money and most sensible option. Yes the Porsche does outperform it but it’s also double the price…and ugly as hell. But I really can’t be bothered listing all the things wrong with the Cayenne but I respect Porsche engineering so I got a Touareg…

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