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Koenigsegg smokes a ZondaBigBallaGA 07-21-2003, 10:14 AM you fellas in here know what time it is......... Koenigsegg CC time, the new fastest street car EVERRRRR.......smoked the zonda, murcielago, enzo.......... we got a new super car on the block.... hooooooolla McLarenF1GTR 07-23-2003, 04:16 AM Originally posted by BigBallaGA ... Koenigsegg CC time, the new fastest street car EVERRRRR.......smoked the zonda, murcielago, enzo.......... I am huge fan of both the Zonda and Koenigsegg CC.. Do you have anymore information on this claim? For example; which test? on what track? which driver (s)? using the same octane fuel? catalytic convers on? slalom, 1/4 mile, or top speed? just a minor correction -- in racing journalism circles the supercar status is NORMALLY only deemed for cars that are >215 MPH capable.. the Zonda, K-CC, XJ220, and Enzo are in this bracket.. i dont really need to mention the McLaren F1 as it still holds the fastest "production" car record (>240MPH), unless you are telling us otherwise? reciprokal 07-29-2003, 09:37 PM both are nice and rare. however, i still love pagani zonda more..:biggrin: Cabbie 08-14-2003, 08:55 AM A link would be nice Big. Well? EnzoNello575 08-14-2003, 09:56 AM Yeah, but 1 thing wrong with the Koenigg... It is ugly. The Zonda and Enzo are beautiful. 962 kid 09-12-2003, 02:35 PM actually, the koenigsegg was .1 seconds slower than the Zonda on the 5th gear test course. Jas_M 09-17-2003, 01:42 AM Dude doesn't even have a link to support his claim. Doesn't matter anyway, as the Bugatti Veyron most likely will smoke all of the above cars in top speed and the 1/4 mile. We'll just have to wait till next year to find out. If Bugatti allows someone to test it independently that is. farbod 09-17-2003, 11:17 AM thats nonsence bugatti probaly isnt even going to in production the car looses control when over 300kph so the have no choice but to reduse the speed to around 200mph ELLTAY 09-18-2003, 10:18 AM you fellas in here know what time it is......... Koenigsegg CC time, the new fastest street car EVERRRRR.......smoked the zonda, murcielago, enzo.......... we got a new super car on the block.... hooooooolla you are dum!!!!! the zonda is even better than the mclaren farbod 09-18-2003, 10:32 AM hte zonda is by far one of the best cars mclaren is nothing compared to it Honda_Eater 10-10-2003, 07:50 PM KIX 10-16-2003, 09:28 AM You mean this....http://www.auto-mania.com.mx/foro1/data/507/1DSC01136.JPG or this little engine that could: http://www.auto-mania.com.mx/foro1/data/507/1DSC01139.JPG I think that arguing what is fastaer at this level is for guys who are NOT past the "mine is larger than yours" stage. WHO CARES Do you think the truckload of women will turn away from your Zonda because the guy next door can go 10 miles faster than you.... :cwm27: Gafoto 10-24-2003, 07:25 PM you are dum!!!!! the zonda is even better than the mclaren Boy you're quick one aren't you? Any particular reasons? Considering the Mclaren trashes all mentioned cars in this thread I wouldn't make those pronouncements. Based on all availible information the Mclaren gets approximately 0-60 time of 3.3 s and a top speed of 241. The only thing that will beat that will be the Koenigsegg (mebbe with the speed), the S7 (already done it with accel, Road and Track), and of course the Bugatti which should be quite impressive. http://www.paganizonda.com/compare/index.html Note that the Pagani has got nice torque and hp numbers but its a bit fat from those creature comforts. The Zonda, as far as I'm concerned will never be a groundbreaking car. It's beautiful, fast, and agile but it's not the best out there by a long shot. Also the new Koenigsegg CC 8S (the 2003 model) has slightly more power and less weight and also has a much heftier price which makes it run about 390,000. Following information availible at paganizonda.com: "C12 Performance Top Speed: Over 185 mph est. C12 S Performance Top Speed: Over 200 mph 0 - 62 mph: 3.7 seconds" So far the test at Nardo for the CC, which was conducted as a light rain began, clocked the CC going about 220. Koenigsegg feels confident it can reach 240 now, and I'm fairly confident that is possible. Said information is found from www.koenigsegg.com. So right now the Koenigsegg is on pretty even footing since it costs 40k more and has improved performance. Beauty of course is in the eye of the beholder now isn't it? Naws 02-26-2004, 09:48 AM the f1 does not hold the record it is a "sledgehammer" with the top speed of 256 mph it would smoke a koenigsegg pimp_squeak 03-10-2004, 10:44 AM the bugatti weighs almost twice as much as all those cars...I dont' care how much horepower it has...it's ugly...italian sports cars are generally works of art...the veyron is an atrocity.... Gafoto 03-10-2004, 05:31 PM the bugatti weighs almost twice as much as all those cars...I dont' care how much horepower it has...it's ugly...italian sports cars are generally works of art...the veyron is an atrocity.... The Bugatti is considered french, its creator came from Italy but the company has been located in france for many years. cavi racer 04-27-2004, 10:38 AM yea its faster in the straights, but in the corners it sucks. theres a video on srtforums.com they have a list of cars they tested. and the koenigsegg barly beat the evo 8 in the corners. pimp_squeak 05-05-2004, 04:53 PM If any of you want to see a truly amazing supercar check out the Ultima GTR, kit car from britain, about 80 K out of pocket and you have a 200 MPH+ capable vehicle, great in the straits and in the turns as well as costing hundreds of thousands less than any of those other "super" cars jcsaleen 05-19-2004, 07:50 PM As far as im concernd the Mclaren Lm and the dauer will toast the Koenigsegg. The Koenigsegg might have a higher topend then the lm but not quick i'll tell you that. But a Koenigsegg will beat a zonda. vanquish89 05-27-2004, 07:46 AM have any of you heard of the koenigsegg ccr because it is like the cc8s's bigger brother. it has 806bhp i think! http://www.koenigsegg.com/thecars/index.asp?submenu=4 info on the cc8s an ccr jcsaleen 05-27-2004, 04:40 PM Do u really own an aston martin??? jcsaleen 05-27-2004, 04:45 PM The other thing is the Zonda doesnt even come close to the Mclaren if u want super cars please take a look @ the Dauer 962 lemans, merecedes clk-gtr Super sport, Mclaren f1 LM and the koenigsegg ccr's stats again please!! jman_zonda 06-14-2004, 03:07 AM I dont see why people always argue about witch super car is better. there all good if you look at why they are built. Sure everyone says the enzo is ugly because it has no interior and that it should. But the enzo was built based on a formula 1 car so if you thiink about it it shouldnt have a radeo or interior. The zonda is a quality car my favorite personlay. its built to be a stuning visual vehicle. and no you cant nesisarily say a koenigsegg cc will smoke a zonda because yes it may in a striaght line but that is stupid you would never race in a strait line its has better haddleing its not a quality built car. the mclaren was the original hyper car. from the gold line engine bay to sentral driving position, is incredible. and the koenigsegg isnt much faster, only about 10mph. and the mclaren has no traction control. its met to be a bruit force car. You cant say that any other super car is way better than it because there not. you have to give credit where credit is due and the mclaren deserves alot for its inovation for its time, remeber this car was first shown in 1993 and still has the styling and looks of a consept car of today. compare that to any other car super car or otherwise from 93 and you will see what im talking about. so give credit where credit is due because i dont think any of use could build a super car even close to as good as a mclaren F1, koenigsegg cc, Ferrari Enzo or a Pagani Zonda. GTI WR6 07-13-2004, 02:58 AM thank u for respecting the Mclaren F1. Thorst13 08-01-2004, 12:53 PM Guys! The fastest PRODUCTION CAR ever timed OFFICALLY is the McLaren F1! There is NO other cars who have CERTIFIED PROOF of obtaining higher top speed as a PRODUCTION CAR!!! No need to babble and wabble about Corvettes. Vipers, Bugattis, blblablablablblalala.... There is faster cars out there, no doubt, but they have not OFFICALLY proven to be!!! Imagine a McLaren with twin turbos and NOS for high-speed records! jcsaleen 08-02-2004, 08:14 PM Thank you :biggrin: DiabloGT 08-03-2004, 08:17 PM yeah whats up with them saying the zonda is faster than the mclaren!? i think the zonda is nice, it may be faster than a lamborghini diablo sv, or a lamborghini murcielago, but i would take those over a zonda any day and for the price the murcielago is much cheaper and about the same thing, or just get a diablo and put a 100 shot of NOS and the new zonda is gone... jcsaleen 08-05-2004, 01:29 AM Zondas fast but not that fast. It in the "nibbling at feet" class if your an enzo,S7,GT,carrera GT and the not so reconized but personally 1 of my faves the callaway C12 "NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH THE RECORD BREAKING SLEDGE HAMMER CONCEPT!!!" unbeatable3kgtvr4 08-15-2004, 02:58 AM Guys! The fastest PRODUCTION CAR ever timed OFFICALLY is the McLaren F1! There is NO other cars who have CERTIFIED PROOF of obtaining higher top speed as a PRODUCTION CAR!!! No need to babble and wabble about Corvettes. Vipers, Bugattis, blblablablablblalala.... There is faster cars out there, no doubt, but they have not OFFICALLY proven to be!!! Imagine a McLaren with twin turbos and NOS for high-speed records! If you'd look at the BMW motor on the McLaren it's simply improbable to imploy a single turbo much less TWIN turbo or NOS. This has been explained and talked about hundred's of times. jcsaleen 08-15-2004, 03:01 PM If you'd look at the BMW motor on the McLaren it's simply improbable to imploy a single turbo much less TWIN turbo or NOS. This has been explained and talked about hundred's of times. Single turbo would be better then twin turbo. :smile: TexasF355F1 08-23-2004, 11:40 AM This thread is over a year old. unbeatable3kgtvr4 08-23-2004, 07:17 PM Ok and your point is.....? joshsworld21 09-07-2004, 12:18 PM Until something new comes along.http://www.paoloscars.com/videos.htm acrid850 09-07-2004, 12:53 PM The Zonda has the best Carbon Fiber work. The McLaren F1 has the best innovation and is the current baseline. The Enzo is the strongest breed. The Carrera GT is right there with the Enzo. The Koenigsegg has highest potential for straight speed. The Murcilago is the raging bull (Lambo fans know what I mean). The Veyron has the biggest engineering feat. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The best car will differ depending on drivers and their preference. voDevil 01-31-2005, 11:43 AM This car is maybe the fastest,but certainli the ugliest!There is no UGLIER production car then the f1!!!And the zonda can hit 350kph,who needs more speed?No one of the fans of m'claren can reach even that speed,so why do ENIBODY needs an f1?Even the peugeot 205 looks better :naughty: McLarenF1GTR 01-31-2005, 04:30 PM the f1 does not hold the record it is a "sledgehammer" with the top speed of 256 mph it would smoke a koenigsegg I love the Callaway Sledgehammer with its monster V8.. BUT it is not the PRODUCTION CAR record holder by definition.. The speed of 256MPH you are quoting below WAS achieved, and verified, and RESPECTED by all motorsport lovers.. But this car is not a road going car by definition.. It has not been registered ANYWHERE in the world other than USA I understand.. Maybe an Arab Sheik has had a go in Dubai, but other than that etc.. Also, if you stop and think of it, the Sledgehammer was almost a drag car that was specifically built in the USA and I dont believe more than 10 (2?) were made.. Dont get me wrong, because I think the Sledgehammer is awesome but if you start suggesting that mainstream production cars (more than 50 made) are getting done over like this, you are missing the point.. on a side note, a friends Rotary (Capella) in Australia held the national record for the 1/4 mile during the mid-90's and he could have smoked a McLaren up to 150MPH... but then again, it rattled, smelt, didnt have any passenger seats, and damaged your Retina's because of the dodgy launch control he loved so much... it's fair to say that his <9 second rotary would murder the Sledgehammer on takeoff.... *just a thought* 97integrals 04-05-2005, 01:08 AM yes speeddemonGtV6 04-09-2005, 06:06 PM im with kix...your idiots ricki camarillo 10-16-2005, 10:33 PM nothing compares to Zonda... The most beautiful car ever maked. others can be faster...but the zonda is fast and has an awesome look! ricki camarillo 10-16-2005, 10:39 PM excuse me, my english is not very good ...I must write: "ever made" Automotive Network, Inc., Copyright ©2013
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