"Service 4WD Switch Error Message"


mozallas
07-18-2003, 05:49 PM
Does any know the Solution to the "Service 4WD Switch" error message. My 1994 Grand Cherokee Laredo(4WD ALL-Time) keeps displaying this message every 2 minutes and it's so distracting. My mechanic doesn't seem to have aclue. Has anyone else had this experience?

Tony Wray
08-16-2003, 09:31 AM
I am having the same problem. The mechanic at the Jeep dealership told me he had never heard of such a thing. If you or anyone else comes up with an answer I would love to have it.

mozallas
08-16-2003, 04:21 PM
I got my fixed.It is a dealer part ($40) and it's located on top the transfercase between the front and rear doors.(Driver's side)

Rocker
08-24-2003, 09:02 PM
The 4wd switch is the indicator that tells the VIC (vehicle information center) if you are in 4 low or 4 high. Have it replaced.

scarng
09-05-2003, 01:38 PM
The 4wd switch is the indicator that tells the VIC (vehicle information center) if you are in 4 low or 4 high. Have it replaced.

I replaced the switch at a cost of 80.00. The Jeep Dealer said if it doesn't fix it that I would the VIC. It's driving me crazy.

Rocker
09-05-2003, 09:38 PM
Unless the VIC is not working in other ways I would discount that as the problem. The dealer is grasping at straws.

Much more likely the wiring from the switch to the VIC is damaged.

jeepmark
10-20-2003, 12:26 PM
You could have a vacuum leak which would enable the transfer case to not recognize that the switch has been activated...easily fixed with duct tape you have the np242 tcase right?

mwgrcherokee
11-09-2003, 10:30 AM
I have the same problem... I had the dealer replace the switch, and the problem got better -- as in, the message on the VIC is now not happening as often -- but didn't go away... Used to be that it was beeping at me several times per hour, intermittently. NOW, it happens once or twice an hour, intermittently.

Maybe the wiring is also at fault? I have no idea where to start looking!

mwgrcherokee
11-09-2003, 10:33 AM
HEY - Anyone know how to just turn off the BEEPing noise on the VIC? If I could just snip the right wire, and shut the darned thing up! The visual indicator on the computer display isn't so annoying, but that beeping is!

mad max
11-21-2003, 08:31 AM
I am having the same problem! I put a shorter switch in the hole and it stopped. But replaced it with the correct switch and it started again. What does it do? There are 4 wires on it. It's driving me nutz! can a computer shut it off? Whos brilliiant idea was this anyway? Someone please make it stop! Any solutions are welcome!

hungrywizard
12-19-2003, 11:21 AM
I have already had the switch replaced and it didn't resolve the issue, and the error code has went gradually from being intermittent to quite frequent (nearly all the time).

If the purpose of this switch is only informational in regards to the VIC, and it provides no real control of the 4WD system, I imagine it's possible to just short two pins together either at the switch connector itself or VIC end of the connections. This would fool the computer into "thinking" it's in all time 4-wheel high status?

If I am correct, based upon Rocker's statement, this would not have a negative impact on the 4-wheel drive system as a whole?

Finding a way to clip the "annoying" beeper would be a reasonable way to make the issue manageable but would hinder value from a salability perspective.

Any input on this would be appreciated!

--HWiz

b.whitt
04-23-2004, 03:32 PM
On mine, I think it's a wiring problem in the VIC. Every time it beeps, I tap the VIC and it stops. It's annoying, and it only happens when I run my jeep for 1~2 hrs or so. When the indicator comes on for the 4wd switch, the vic also says I don't have wheels :rofl: !

Dsilver
04-25-2004, 05:40 PM
Haha, if you can't figure it out, or want to try something different, ask Dale, he might know what to do.

Caribbean ZJ
04-26-2004, 11:26 AM
Disconnect the chime module, small maroon looking box under the steering colmn area. this should stop the beeps

Dsilver
04-26-2004, 08:44 PM
Word to your mother on that one :)

FalconXIII
10-15-2004, 03:02 PM
Does any know the Solution to the "Service 4WD Switch" error message. My 1994 Grand Cherokee Laredo(4WD ALL-Time) keeps displaying this message every 2 minutes and it's so distracting. My mechanic doesn't seem to have aclue. Has anyone else had this experience?
I have been having this same message on my VIC in and out. I checked the transfer case fluid level and found it was low. Since I have topped off the transfer case I haven't had this message again. Check your owners manual for the proper fluid type and check the transfer case fluid level. I'll post a follow up if this message starts coming back again. Good Luck. :banghead:

CapeFear562
10-29-2004, 09:34 PM
highly doubt its the VIC, dont mess with the chime module unless you want to lose your keyless entry on some models. Problem is with the switch in the tcase. Well not really the switch itself but everything together. solution, disconnect it. the purpose of the four wire is to accommodate different tcases (i.e. 231, 242, 249) which wires are connected corresponds to a different tcase.

Speedracer33
11-10-2004, 11:08 AM
I have been having this same message on my VIC in and out. I checked the transfer case fluid level and found it was low. Since I have topped off the transfer case I haven't had this message again. Check your owners manual for the proper fluid type and check the transfer case fluid level.

Can anybody look and see what that fluid is for me? I got mine used and don't have the manual. Is it hard to add the fluid to the transfer case? Where is it actually located?

Thanks!

CapeFear562
11-10-2004, 01:15 PM
your fluid for the tcase is transmission fluid, IIRC its ATF +3, to add fluid is pretty simple. On the rear of the case there are two fairly good sized bolts, the top is where you check your fluid level and add fluid, the bottom is to drain the case. Remove the top bolt fill until level with the bottom of the hole. in other words fill it until it runs out the hole and replace the bolt. hope this helps

Speedracer33
11-10-2004, 02:02 PM
your fluid for the tcase is transmission fluid, IIRC its ATF +3, to add fluid is pretty simple. On the rear of the case there are two fairly good sized bolts, the top is where you check your fluid level and add fluid, the bottom is to drain the case. Remove the top bolt fill until level with the bottom of the hole. in other words fill it until it runs out the hole and replace the bolt. hope this helps

That helps a great deal actually. I just have one painfully stupid follw-up question, mostly based on the fact that I'm used to working on front wheel drive Hondas. Where in the drivetrain is the tcase? What does it look like? I just don't want to end up servicing the rear diff instead by accident! LOL!

CapeFear562
11-10-2004, 02:29 PM
the tcase is mounted directly after the transmission. its the unit where the front and rear driveshafts come together.

honkeyman
12-16-2004, 09:39 AM
Yea I had been having that same service 4 wheel drive switch message too and it was bugging the hell out of me. Then one day this random maroon box was just lying on the floor on the drivers side and it must have been the chime mechanism. The message still appears interminnently, but it doesnt beep anymore. Ive realized that Jeeps are the most random cars...

lukep
11-25-2005, 06:08 PM
I pulled out the chime module on mine (94 laredo) and the beeping stopped when I now get the Service 4wd message. The thing is that I can't lock the doors with the keyless remote or with the buttons on the doors, just unlock them. This might sound stupid but to tell you the truth, I'd rather not have that stupid beeping sound all the damn time for no reason than to be able to lock my doors. That beeping is soooooooo damn annoying I feel like driving my jeep off a boat ramp into a lake half the time.

lukep
11-25-2005, 06:13 PM
highly doubt its the VIC, dont mess with the chime module unless you want to lose your keyless entry on some models. Problem is with the switch in the tcase. Well not really the switch itself but everything together. solution, disconnect it. the purpose of the four wire is to accommodate different tcases (i.e. 231, 242, 249) which wires are connected corresponds to a different tcase.

I ran into this problem. I noticed there are something like 8 wires running to the module, any idea which one is the VIC beep? I am also thinking of trying to open the maroon box and see if there is a speaker that can be disconnected, which would shut up the vehicle as well.

lukep
11-26-2005, 11:52 AM
I think I have a somewhat easy solution to stopping the beeping, it has to do with the chime module, and you will loose all chimes, even the one that beeps when you leave the headlights on and the vehicle is off. I'm not entirely sure that it works, since I haven't been able to get the Service 4wd message to show up now that I've made a fix (which figures), but I didn't get beeping when the Turn Signal Left On warning came on the screen and I get no beeping when I open the drivers side door of the vehicle with the vehicle off and the headlights on, both of these being two other things I remember hearing the chime module in action.

You simply have to pull out the chime module (the maroon box under the front left side of the dash). Open up the chime module. It's pretty easy, just some snaps, you'll need something about 2 inches long with a radius of about 1/8' inch to get to some of the snaps, I used a nail. You'll see a green circuit board after opening up the maroon casing. Pull out the circuit board, it comes out easy. Underneath you'll see a thin, circular metal plate with a dark line through the middle of it. You'll have to unsnap the white cage holding it into place. I removed both the white cage and disk, which look like the peices that radiate the sound. Put the module back together and you can snap it back into place under the dash. Now you have removed the part of the chime module that makes the sound without even removing the chime module completely from your vehicle, so the door locks will still work.

mad max
12-02-2005, 07:34 AM
I just unpluged the damn sensor plug from the transfer case. No more noise and Vehicle Information Module still works fine. This thing is getting old. Had to replace the ABS brake module also. Time to get another ride with a better brain

nfo184
01-23-2006, 07:58 PM
I just unpluged the damn sensor plug from the transfer case. No more noise and Vehicle Information Module still works fine. This thing is getting old. Had to replace the ABS brake module also. Time to get another ride with a better brain

the plug going to the transfer case shuts off ur speedometer though

mad max
01-25-2006, 09:35 PM
the plug going to the transfer case shuts off ur speedometer though

Negative on same. Speedo still working (99.9 % of the time!) . I am not sure but I think the speedo is actually a cable that spins. Regardless maybe the difference is that I have a 93 grand cherokee. I have had the wires disconnected for around a year now and no more problems. I wish there was a way to replace that poorly made vic with a newer quality unit. The old jeep -160K mi - is starting to rust around the wheel well - 14 years in new england did it. Still runs well despite being very thirsty for oil all he time. Maybe a valve job is in the offing in the next 50 K
Good luck

nfo184
01-25-2006, 11:34 PM
yea well my speedometer def went out right away lol.....my VIC also shuts off sometimes and then i got to reset everything....anybody have that problem also?

buckeyebossman
11-20-2009, 03:23 PM
My 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo (6cyl, 4l) just started showing the "service 4wd switch" message, and then last night, it wouldnt shift out of first gear and eventually the transmission started slipping, and I couldnt go any faster than 5 mph. Had to get a tow. Please let me know if replacing the 4wd switch will fix this issue, or if I have a major transmission problem. Thanks.

fredjacksonsan
11-20-2009, 11:54 PM
Buckeye, Welcome to AF. Since this is an older thread you might not get the best response...I'd suggest starting a new thread, with the same information above and also noting the mileage on your Jeep.

Apologies but I don't have a solution for your problem...one other thing, reference this thread in your new post, it will help folks help you.

dragon5126
11-25-2009, 05:16 AM
Buckeye, depending on your transfercase you may or may not be having a transmission problem. If it's a part time 4wd it's the transmission, if its full time, with quadra track it might be the transfer case. The full time transfer cases use a fluidic clutch system similar to a torque converter in operation, if it loses too much fluid it will slip just as you describe, but so will an automatic transmission. The transfer case is more forgiving, but it only has about 3 pints of fluid in it,,, not very much. However loss of enough fluid in a transmission to cause this amount of slipping is a very serious issue and can cause other damage to the transmission. Check fluid levels in both if the tranny fluid is up to the proper level, not burnt smelling or foamy then it probably is the transfercase providing it is a full time 4wd system. if its part time, look to the transmission.

brianmason@rogers.
11-27-2009, 07:27 PM
I have a 1996 grand cherokee and has 5.2 but i purchased a 5.7 hemi and tranny from 2005 grand cherokee and wonder if any one has tried this exchange and if so could use help before i begin swap
mounts
driveshaft
wiring
thanks
brian

buckeyebossman
12-01-2009, 03:22 PM
Yeah, I think that I have to replace the clutch kit in the transmission. I changed the fluid and replaced the filter, then added fluid to the transfer case, but still slipping. My neighbor is a mechanic and thinks the same thing, since when I removed the transmission pan, there was a lot of "grease" on the magnet, which I was told is the gripping residue from the clutch mechanisms between the gears. If I am wrong, or you think that it could be something else, please let me know. Thanks for your help.

dragon5126
12-04-2009, 02:09 AM
Yeah, I think that I have to replace the clutch kit in the transmission. I changed the fluid and replaced the filter, then added fluid to the transfer case, but still slipping. My neighbor is a mechanic and thinks the same thing, since when I removed the transmission pan, there was a lot of "grease" on the magnet, which I was told is the gripping residue from the clutch mechanisms between the gears. If I am wrong, or you think that it could be something else, please let me know. Thanks for your help.

When it comes to Auto trannies, it cant hurt. Personally I would replace the filter, powerflush the tranny and see what happens from there first, unless you aren't afraid of putting the work into a high mileage transmission. If it (power flushing) brings you back into operating condition (at minimal cost) I'd baby it while looking for a lower mileage tranny to either swap out or rebuild and swap out depending on your skills, abilities and how long you intend to keep the 'rokee. Bottom line when it comes to any high mileage vehicle is how much you are willing to spend on it. If the engine is strong, the rest of the driveline is good and the body is functional (or better), the tranny work may be worth it. But as most people really are not aware of, the auto-transmission, is the single most expensive part of the driveline on a modern vehicle, and this is the make or break expense as all too often it is more than the book value of an older vehicle. Most of us had to dispose of a vehicle that we loved at one time or another, as the cost of repairs were well beyond the real value and personal value we have for it.

mipaoc
11-01-2010, 11:56 AM
I have a 95 limited and have had the crap annoyed out of me with this chime. I removed the chime box and opened it. Inside there is a clip holding the circuit board down. Remove it and reinstall the box. The chime is not audible when I drive but I can still hear it when I leave my lights on after I turn the vehicle off. And there is no effect to anything else.

Rjbrad
09-07-2012, 06:37 PM
After 3 years of searching for the cause of the annoying Service 4 wheel drive switch, I have found the problem!
Pull your VIC out of the car and take apart to expose the solder area of the back connector. My VIC had bad solder joints from the ageing and vibrations. I scratched off the conformal coating on the solder area and re-solder all connections. I put it back together and re-installed in the Jeep. Have not had one error since. :grinno:

cvg1950
12-27-2012, 07:53 PM
this is a common prob. with 93-98 models. If you don't mind the notice appearing, but merely want the 'beep-beep' to stop, simply disconnect the brown wire coming out the switch itself (on top of transfer case). This will have no effect whatsoever on the performance of the transfer case or the working of the 4x4. Nothing in the mechanical workings of your 4x4 (transfer case, etc.) is electric..its all mechanical. Disconnecting this wire will merely disable the notification lights on which range (4w High, 4w Low) your vehicle is in...which simply looking at the selector will tell you.. lol..but will also disable the warning 'beep-beep' that is so annoying. This warning as no effect on the actual mechanical workings of the 4x4, not 'fixing it' will not harm your vehicle. Just a quick fix for those without the bucks to "try' and fix it, or those who are only worried about potential harm to the vehicle... no problem.. just annoying!!

fredjacksonsan
12-30-2012, 01:28 AM
Thanks for the solution guys. Since this is a common issue, it's worth a sticky.

clementine99
05-29-2014, 07:16 PM
thanks for all of you , you are very helpful

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