i remember seeing a home made intake, where the intake like went underneith the battery or something like that. i like that idea versuse making the intake run all across the enging bay and down behind the bumper. i remember seeing a pic of it. i tried looking for it but could not find it so help me out.....

Why? the pipe will get heated, making the air warmer, and reducing the density, totally defeating the purpose of a CAI

Just go buy a damn Injen and do it right

Ok so running you intake around your motor to the other side of the freaken enging bay (like ft) is better than running a straight pipe a foot down right behind the front bumper. if you try sucking air through a straw that is bending and long versus sucking air through a short straw, which do you think is better. plus the longer piping will get hotter because it traveling around the freaken engine bay.....common how does that sound stupid.......

I think he misunderstood what you said...

I think it would work.

But what about the MAF sensor wiring?

yea thats why i'm asking for a pic... i clearly remember seeing a pic but i forgot what all he said about all the details....

yes it would create more power and probably a louder noise. The shorter intake is much better for gains but requires removing the battery to a new location(which isn't a bad idea anyhow).


Also on heat idea, an Injen intake absorbs some heat, running between the engine and radiator is not the coolest spot in the engine bay, in fact its probably one of the hottest areas. Most gains from an intake aren't really from the "cold air" most people say it draws but rather from the new free-er flowing filter and the free-er flowing intake piping with less bends etc.... almost like putting on a new exhaust system, but this is for the intake. Also tubing is usually thicker all throughout the system with no restrictions like sound resonaters or anything.

Originally posted by SR20DETpower
yes it would create more power and probably a louder noise. The shorter intake is much better for gains but requires removing the battery to a new location(which isn't a bad idea anyhow).
a shorter intake is always better but just make sure you block off that area of the engine bay to allow for cool air, and make a cold air intake port.

either that or make it go past the radiator and down through the resonator port.

http://www.clearcorners.com/240sx/Mechanical01.jpg

http://www.clearcorners.com/240sx/Mechanical02.jpg

http://www.clearcorners.com/240sx/Mechanical03.jpg

http://www.clearcorners.com/240sx/Mechanical04.jpg

mike does really have a nice custom intake.

just make sure you have the intake drawing in colder air. whenever anyone creates a topic regarding a cai i always tell them that the purpose of a cold air intake is to intake the cold air!!! if you leave the filter in the engine bay not blocked off by at least a cold air engine bay partitioner your asking for an intake that doesnt work. mike knows a lot about cars and he went with the extension as opposed to the short ram intake blocked off by the engine bay partitioner.

Why doesn't any major Intake manufacturer make this Intake that you guys are talking about it seems much more efficient.

MAFS wiring

has anyone ever seen like a dual intake for the 240, like its one pipe at the throttle body but splits so one goes to the left side and the other goes to the right side?

just thought that would increase air flow, if its totally retarded let me know, if its a good idea let me know too :biggrin: also tell me why it would or wouldn't work

I have seen the split intake on other cars but not for the 240. With my sr20 swap, I am limited to the area that I would be able to fit a duel intake system without relocating the MAFS.

thecollector
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I think turboing the the ka24de would leave space to do it, I'm just trying to figure out if it would help or not

Its cheaper to buy a sr20 clip than to turbo a ka24de. Besides the sr20 will hold up better than a NA engine that was converted.
With the Ka24de I see it having the space, but too close to the exhaust. Like someone else posted move the battery, good 2g or better wire to the trunk is what I did.

thecollector
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ok we're getting off topic i asked if anyone knew where that particular intake is....i say a pic of it on the board a couple weeks ago and now i can't find it .....the dude said he made it himself.....common guys ....

HAHAHA it is NOT cheaper to buy an sr front clip than turbo the ka, you are insane, and the ka is a stronger engine and the sr can NOT hold up better than it, you don't know what your talkin about my friend

and sorry I don't know anything about the custom intake your takling about, I've been on this board more than a few weeks and I read almost every post I'm sure and I never saw it

http://www.unstable-hybrids.com/images/JakeSR20DET_D.jpg kinda like this.....

this is the idea of the intake i'm talking about.... i said this is the idea...i know the is a turbo set up bla bla ....

BAHHH you NOOBS!! i remember that thread heres the link i posted on how to do it your self its ez, efficiant, CHEAP!!, and WTF happond to that thread i cant even find it :confused: :bloated:

its from 240sx.org enjoy (http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/short_intake/index.htm)

THANK FREAKEN YOU....thats what i'm talking...only difference is that i'm going to run it right behind the front bumper...damn dude thanxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:bigthumb: this is not the picture but damn good enough

Ya i know the pix your looking for and its some one here that posted it too. Forgot when that thread was up cant be that long ago i remember it as if it was last week :bloated:

no matter how short it is, that custom short intake is still drawing in hot air from the engine bay.... its not efficient

Originally posted by mynismo
no matter how short it is, that custom short intake is still drawing in hot air from the engine bay.... its not efficient


actually, even with the extension it would still be hot.

so considering how the air flows underneath the headlight, it will even out to about the same thing as having the extension.


what u have to realize is that the pipe runs along the front of the engine block anyways.. so if its metal, they are both equally efficient.
if it was carbon fibre or a composite material then the heat shielding would be like 50% more effective.

so if its metal, its down to what kind of metal, or else its the same.
there are circumstances of both intake systems that will create drops, and rises in performance, and the goods and bads of the injen outweigh the goods and bads of this custom.

its the same shit.

Dang...Seems like your last opition is to go turbo*sigh*:frown:

Originally posted by Soyo
HAHAHA it is NOT cheaper to buy an sr front clip than turbo the ka, you are insane, and the ka is a stronger engine and the sr can NOT hold up better than it, you don't know what your talkin about my friend

and sorry I don't know anything about the custom intake your takling about, I've been on this board more than a few weeks and I read almost every post I'm sure and I never saw it

I bought mine for $2650+ shipping. Then have it swaped for $500. Maybe another $1,000 for misc parts and dynoing. I checked into getting the 2.4L a turbo kit and I was looking at about $4,000 minimum.

I personally think that an engine thats designed with a turbo will always hold up better than 1 fited with one. The reputable company also told me I would probably have problems with it in a year or 2. So, yes from the info presented to me, I do know what I am talking about.

Thecollector
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problems with wut, ur SR or turboing a KA??


and hows the SR by the way?? is it everything u expected? less? more?

you obviously can't add

2650 for the engine
500 for swap
1000 for parts
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4150 + shipping

you just said you found the turbo kit for the ka for 4000

so its about the same, but thats for a ful kit, if you just get the turbo and manifold with downpipe and a few other things you can get it for 1900, then add an exhaust and intake and your still at about 2500 and I don't know any numbers for sure but I think it would hang with the sr, plus a lot of that is easily done by anyone with even a little knowledge of cars, and a turbo doesn't cost a ton of labor compared to a whole engine



but to be honest there really are too many variables to argue it, and even if it was obvious who was right we'd still prolly argue so I'm done with this

you guys should just load up the dohc n/a if you don't plan on riding faster than a 14.0. its a lot cheaper

Originally posted by mynismo
no matter how short it is, that custom short intake is still drawing in hot air from the engine bay.... its not efficient

Hey Mark, eric said he was gona run it under the fender wall so it would be more efficient then running the Injen with the extension all the way across the engin bay. One it would be 1/3 the length, and 2 even though its still hot as hell in there the cold air comeing in from the fender wont need to travel through so much HOT piping to reach its destination. It just seems like a better method for the non lazy ppl :bigthumb: not to mention now you have another reason to put your battery in the trunk.

ok whateva...the idea i have in mind is a little different that just running the intake in behind the bumper....i have a few tricks up my sleave....i did the idea on my accord and all the air that went in to my intake was the cooleset air....OK....enough said

try puting a bypass valve

How about reducing your sig?

Originally posted by Sanchi

One it would be 1/3 the length, and 2 even though its still hot as hell in there the cold air comeing in from the fender wont need to travel through so much HOT piping to reach its destination.
i don't know what you're talking about... i can literally lick my injen after it's been running an hour, it doesn't get hot at all


ghost if you were talking to me i just reduced it :biggrin:

Originally posted by mynismo
you guys should just load up the dohc n/a if you don't plan on riding faster than a 14.0. its a lot cheaper
ahem... here's a n/a running 12's

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=328231&page=2

ofcourse you can run 12's, who doesn't know that?

Originally posted by mynismo
ghost if you were talking to me i just reduced it :biggrin:

Nah I meant DIRTY D but it looks like he already took care of it