Ok, here goes. Which one would you pick?? This is going to be my daily driver. I'm gonna have it up through college. I know a lot about all of these cars.

2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V
199x (not the new kind) Honda Prelude
199x Acura Integra GSR
199x 300ZX TT
2002 Honda Civic SiR
199x Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4
199x Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T
199x Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
1999-2000 VW GTi 1.8T
1998-1999 Honda Accord Coupe (NOT V6)
1996+ Nissan 240sx
1999-2000 Honda Civic Si
2001 Dodge Neon R/T
1993-1995 Mazda RX-7


That's all I can think of right now.

That's quite a selection!!! :eek2:

You seem to have cars from two different classes, though. You might have a hard time comparing the 2002 Civic and the '90s 300ZX fairly. :hehehe:

I've thought of a comparison like this many times, too. My top choice didn't appear, though: Toyota MR2 MKII (1991-1999). Were you just avoiding Toyota?

I really like the 4th Prelude and the S14 240SX, but I'd drop both for a 3000GT or RX-7 or 300ZX...

This comparo is gonna break my brain.... :bloated:

as a honda owner i voted for the Civic Si you can get the VORTEC SC and all you need is a pair of wings to fly.



but if i had the $$$ i would go for a TT supra 6spd tranny :D

you can get 750+hp to the ground out of the 2jz-gte engine:D

Well if you can afford the insurance get the 300zx TT! Damn that's a nice car. The rest really don't compare. If you don't mind a little modding the S14 w/SR20DET conversion would be high on my list too.

Go the S14 Silvia, or the Batman, or Supra.. only choices.

brand new Sentra SE-R might be a very good choice though...

Originally posted by GTS-4 Ben
Go the S14 Silvia, or the Batman, or Supra.. only choices.

Ditto

Originally posted by GTS-4 Ben
Go the S14 Silvia, or the Batman, or Supra.. only choices. :confused: What the hells a 'Batman'? :huh:

A VR4 is the top dog of that list. Style, class and a ton of get up and go.

Originally posted by YogsVR4
A VR4 is the top dog of that list. Style, class and a ton of get up and go.
...and weight too. :silly2:

Originally posted by G-Forces
:confused: What the hells a 'Batman'? :huh:

Latest Shape RX7

Originally posted by G-Forces

...and weight too. :silly2:

Why is it people with underpowered cars talk about weight? :D ;) :D

300 zx tt.......:cool:

I'd go VR4 that's what i voted for... since the RX-7 is REALLY unreliable, and if you're gunna have a car that long you don't want the rotary breaking down on you all the time.... plus by the time you finish college the car will be like 15 years old :eek:
i don't like the 300Z much but it's also a good choice

2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V for me!

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Why is it people with underpowered cars talk about weight? :D ;) :D
Cuz it's a killa! :D:p:D

I still take a RX-7.

Originally posted by F20C
I still take a RX-7.

yeah but he needs the car till the end of college and he's 15 years old (i think)

do you know how unreliable RX-7s are? that'll just be trouble, especially since it'll already be used

yeah, i am 15.

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Why is it people with underpowered cars talk about weight? :D ;) :D

ahh, someone else who understands :D

I also chose the 3000gt VR4

The VR-4. As long as it has been well-maintaned, otherwise it would be pricey to fix.

I had a dream about it, actually. I dreamt hummerman lived in Lindsay, and he had YogsVR4 's 2 3000GT's and DeLorean. I went to his house to talk to him. He showed me the VR-4 coupe, and it looked pretty rough outside (unkept is probably better) He said he had bought it for 1600, and had spent 300 extra on it. So I gave him 1900 for it, and drove it away:) Nice, good dream:silly2:

Originally posted by Chris
The VR-4. As long as it has been well-maintaned, otherwise it would be pricey to fix.

I had a dream about it, actually. I dreamt hummerman lived in Lindsay, and he had YogsVR4 's 2 3000GT's and DeLorean. I went to his house to talk to him. He showed me the VR-4 coupe, and it looked pretty rough outside (unkept is probably better) He said he had bought it for 1600, and had spent 300 extra on it. So I gave him 1900 for it, and drove it away:) Nice, good dream:silly2:


I dont like that dream for 2 reasons.

1) If I had a VR-4, i would never let it get rough or unkept looking.
2) Id never let it go for 1900

The idea of me having Yogs's cars is pretty sweet tho. :D :D

Arent cool Mitsus illegal in Blunder Bay, anyway??:hehehe:

Originally posted by Chris
Arent cool Mitsus illegal in Blunder Bay, anyway??:hehehe:

illegal? :bloated:

Ur pretty much right tho. There are very few cool modded cars, and very few exotics.

When I mean exotics, I mean practically anything, Infinity,Mitsubishi, and anything else.

DO NOT get an RX-7 unless you own your own oil well and are prepared to foot the massive repair bills that are also constant

Yah, rotor seals could go, so hello new engine! Detonation will kill it in a hurry.

Originally posted by gang$tarr
I'd go VR4 that's what i voted for... since the RX-7 is REALLY unreliable

What, and a Mitsu is really all that reliable? The apex seals on the rotors aren't really all that much of a problem to deal with. And you don't need to get a new 13B when the seals wear out, as Chris believes. You can just replace them with better ones. I think too many people are still brainwashed that the Seven is going to be a p.o.s. rustbucket in the long run... Go outside and count the number of older RX-7s there are. Plenty. A lot of the mkI Sevens are used for rally racing, as well. They fare well as daily drivers, can easily be extracted for more power, and have LOTS of replacement parts and aftermarket support. I do love the VR-4 as well (especially the final facelift), but I just wish it found a redesign somewhere down the line. The design seems a bit dated, both technologically and aesthetically. The RX-7 is far more timeless.

To add to the weight issue:

Power is much more easily added, than weight is lost. When you get to the cream of the crop (i.e. Formula One) weight is of the utmost importance.

I just see 3500lb supras and 2000lb Geo Metros. Why cant the supra be lighter?? (I realize better suspension/motor/frame adds weight, but it cant be that bad)

I'm not sure where I got my idea for the 13B rotor seals, but I know NSU's had to replace the whole motor.

And an old RX-7 came in fourth place in the SCCA rally series this year.

Originally posted by Morpheus XIII


What, and a Mitsu is really all that reliable?

alot more reliable than the RX-7....... the RX-7 engine is notorious for being a huge hassle, and being reall unreliable. Olds88 on AF is a mechanic and he said he refuses to work on RX-7s cause they're just way too much trouble and so many of them break down

There is a lot of problems with FD3S. However the joy of driving one outweights the other car in this selection.

Originally posted by gang$tarr

alot more reliable than the RX-7....... the RX-7 engine is notorious for being a huge hassle, and being reall unreliable.

Well, not that much more reliable. In the past, Mitsubishi (as a whole) has even been labeled by some publications as being the worst in quality of all japanese automakers in the U.S.

True, the 13B requires constant attention, but what high-performance engine doesn't? Most gearheads open the hood at least once a week anyway, and with all the time spent under there for tuning, I doubt anyone who is half serious would mind additional maintenance duties as well.

Like F20C stated, the net return for the end user is much, much more than your efforts put into the RX-7.

A WRX is too expensive, I gather?? If not, I could add it to the poll.

yeah, an impreza wrx is too expensive. but i forgot the Celica GT-S


but i'm really diggin the 3000 gt.

Originally posted by YogsVR4
A VR4 is the top dog of that list. Style, class and a ton of get up and go.

300ZX TT Intake and ECU remap = 400HP

Personaly I would take the S14 with a Silvia transplant by I am Bios to the SR20DET motor becouse that really all I know all so well.

Originally posted by CHRIS200T


300ZX TT Intake and ECU remap = 400HP



I get so tired of the this mod / that mod arguements. But if I must. 3000GT VR4 Intake + bleeder valve = 400 HP

hehe. bleeder valve = $3? right?

3 bucks? Not bad. The only other one I know that makes significant power at that range is the fish pump mod.

I would say the VR4.

For one it is 4wd so traction is not an issue. Also for you Zed fans have you ever looked under the hood or bonnet? For fu*ks sake there is no room to work on it! It is heavy and unreliable as the bottom end is weak especially the crank.

Originally posted by Morpheus XIII
3 bucks? Not bad. The only other one I know that makes significant power at that range is the fish pump mod.

fish pump mod?!? :confused:

Originally posted by YogsVR4


I get so tired of the this mod / that mod arguements. But if I must. 3000GT VR4 Intake + bleeder valve = 400 HP
Are you sure!! I seen turbos on them VR4's I would be surprised to see one of toughs turbos support enough air flow to power a lawn mower. By the size of the stock turbos to get 320 factory HP I could only imagine the turbos are flowing as much as they can. What’s the stock boost on toughs?? 15PSI like an eclipse!!

Originally posted by blatch
hehe. bleeder valve = $3? right?
uhhhh.. I seriously laugh at people that use home built $3 bleeder valves I seen a few people blow up there motors on thoughs. thay are super unstable..

I made a bleed valve for my Skyline. Being a tool maker by trade it was not difficult. I just had no idea how to design a proper one is all. The bloody think made the wastegate open too early and would bring full boost on so late it was pathetic!

Since then I purchased a Turbo smart one. I now know what I want and will make a proper dual boost one via a mechanical switching mechanism instead of electronic for now. I may look to make a full on electronic one later with some help of a mate who is an electrical engineer.

So home made ones can cause you heaps of problems, I agree.

Originally posted by gang$tarr


fish pump mod?!? :confused:

You can rig a common aquarium 3-way fish tank pump valve (must have a screwable adjustment) for boost control duties on turbocharged cars. Don't know how reliable it is, as it is another homemade mod. I'd just stick to electronic boost controllers from big brands like HKS; they have manufacturer's warrantees and such, and you can monitor and set the dangerously higher boost pressures more accurately, rather than guessing and testing to find the right setting as with homemade or mechanical boost controllers.

RX-7 needs maintenance but means a lot of fun!:bandit:

Originally posted by CHRIS200T

Are you sure!! I seen turbos on them VR4's I would be surprised to see one of toughs turbos support enough air flow to power a lawn mower. By the size of the stock turbos to get 320 factory HP I could only imagine the turbos are flowing as much as they can. What’s the stock boost on toughs?? 15PSI like an eclipse!!

They come from the factory at 12.5psi. They can be taken to 16psi without any change in the fuel system. Put larger injecters in and you can take that right to 20psi with 550s or to 24psi with 750s.

I've seen the turbos on the VR4 as well. So I am curious what lawn mower you have in mind?

Originally posted by Morpheus XIII


You can rig a common aquarium 3-way fish tank pump valve (must have a screwable adjustment) for boost control duties on turbocharged cars. Don't know how reliable it is, as it is another homemade mod. I'd just stick to electronic boost controllers from big brands like HKS; they have manufacturer's warrantees and such, and you can monitor and set the dangerously higher boost pressures more accurately, rather than guessing and testing to find the right setting as with homemade or mechanical boost controllers.

GS - this hit the nail on the head. Its a mod that has to be done carefully so you dont overboost. However, I know of many people who have done it and none of them have damaged their cars because of it.

As you can see, I went with Greddy instead of HKS, but I prefer the big brands as well.

Greddy/Trust is just awesome. Them and HKS are my personal favs.

definitely the RX7. great looks, great drive.