SHO Question


90civicracer
07-12-2003, 03:47 AM
My parents have a 1998 Ford Taurus SHO which i am currently driving while my Civic is out, and i notice it has a 150mpg speedo. I was wondering what the top speed is in a stock 98 SHO or if there is a governer or what. I figure i may as well ask someone who has dont it or someone who knows what its set at, cuz i can't even go 10 over after getting my ticket. Im just a curious 16 year old, lol.

SR20DETpower
07-13-2003, 10:20 PM
lets just say it'll blow your civic's doors off lol.

90civicracer
07-14-2003, 02:07 AM
Lol no shit a 3.4 v8 compared to a 1.6 SOHC I-4. I was looking more towards a number (mph) that someone could tell me.

HiFlow5 0
07-14-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by 90civicracer
My parents have a 1998 Ford Taurus SHO which i am currently driving while my Civic is out, and i notice it has a 150mpg speedo.
150 miles per gallon? WOW, that sucks! :biggrin: I think you mean mph. LOL, sorry, I couldn;t resist.

Lol no shit a 3.4 v8 compared to a 1.6 SOHC I-4. I was looking more towards a number (mph) that someone could tell me.
WOW, I didn't realize the later year SHO's had V8's. Pretty interesting!:bigthumb:

90civicracer
07-14-2003, 01:01 PM
Man u don't gotta make fun of me, lol. It was like 1 or 2am when i typed it and im surprised i even typed it that good :iceslolan

El_Kameleon
07-20-2003, 03:41 PM
It should do about 139-143 MPH

I've never driven an 98 but my 89 SHO (3.0 YAMAHA V6 5Speed) did 136 in 4th gear at 7300 rpm GPS verified

or visit www.shotimes.com

KrAzYStOrM
07-21-2003, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by HiFlow5 0

150 miles per gallon? WOW, that sucks! I think you mean mph. LOL, sorry, I couldn;t resist.


How in the hell would 150 miles per gallon suck?! :owned:

BTW i think your older model sho only had a v6... and his has a v8!

90civicracer
07-21-2003, 02:38 AM
Yeah up till '95 the SHO's only had a v6, and the '96-'99 has a 3.4L v8.

GTStang
07-23-2003, 01:25 PM
I had my 93 SHO 5-speed to 140mph. Im sure you could get that V-8 one there even though the 91-95 SHO are faster in the 1/4 mile

PAracer
07-27-2003, 07:20 PM
The V8 SHO went in a whole different direction from the V6. The V8 is a little more refined, but lacks the raw edge of the Yamaha. If you plan on keeping the v8 for a long period of time please check out the cam issue at www.v8sho.com This is a serious problem that can catch you off guard and leave you with a destroyed engine.

Jays_sho
07-28-2003, 09:32 PM
I have a 97 SHO and the computer shuts it down at 144mph, Now I have heard the later SHO's were govern down to a lower speed. But also heard of one that is chipped and the limiter gone "wrote out of the program" that could probley hit the 160's but never tried.....

90civicracer
07-30-2003, 05:24 AM
That's would be phat to be rollin down the highway doin 160 passin cars left and right and havin them wonder "WHAT THE FUCK...WAS THAT A TAURUS THAT PASSED ME" lol. You gotta give love for the SHO's, their pretty damn quick. Too bad the 96-99 didn't come w/ an option of a 5 or even 6 speed...that woulda been sweet.

XRoll2000
08-08-2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by GTStang
I had my 93 SHO 5-speed to 140mph. Im sure you could get that V-8 one there even though the 91-95 SHO are faster in the 1/4 mile

'89-95 mtxs are fast. :smile:

90civicracer
08-09-2003, 05:17 AM
I heard from someone that they said they think the 98 and i think 99 is governed to like 120. This could be right because ive taken a couple things into consideration. First off if u just stick the car in neutral and rev it my car stops at 4,000rpm...and i know when driving in 4th gear at 60mph it is right at about 2,000rpm. So if there is a governer set for 4,000rpm in 4th gear that would be right about 120 at 4,000rpm right? I may be wrong but im just trying to put things together piece by piece, lol.

mikegee
08-20-2003, 04:46 PM
Yeah up till '95 the SHO's only had a v6, and the '96-'99 has a 3.4L v8.

ummm not exactlly sure but i think the 96 thru 99 sho's v8 was an option i do know a girl with a v6 sho.

mikegee
08-20-2003, 04:49 PM
I heard from someone that they said they think the 98 and i think 99 is governed to like 120. This could be right because ive taken a couple things into consideration. First off if u just stick the car in neutral and rev it my car stops at 4,000rpm...and i know when driving in 4th gear at 60mph it is right at about 2,000rpm. So if there is a governer set for 4,000rpm in 4th gear that would be right about 120 at 4,000rpm right? I may be wrong but im just trying to put things together piece by piece, lol.


do ya formula with my rev limiter is set at 4,500 rpm and at 55 mph and at 2,000 engine speed.

XRoll2000
08-26-2003, 05:11 PM
ummm not exactlly sure but i think the 96 thru 99 sho's v8 was an option i do know a girl with a v6 sho.

the '96-'99 sho only came in auto and a V8.

mikegee
08-27-2003, 04:34 PM
the '96-'99 sho only came in auto and a V8.


well i guess ford romoved the v8 and replaced it with a v6? sounds weird i would assume but she had the last generation sho i know its a show but it has a v6

JEFF_24V
08-28-2003, 05:13 PM
You mentioned that it cuts off at 4,000 RPM. That's a rev limiter, not a govenor.

Jeff

Patrick Norris
09-01-2003, 07:36 AM
I heard from someone that they said they think the 98 and i think 99 is governed to like 120. This could be right because ive taken a couple things into consideration. First off if u just stick the car in neutral and rev it my car stops at 4,000rpm...and i know when driving in 4th gear at 60mph it is right at about 2,000rpm. So if there is a governer set for 4,000rpm in 4th gear that would be right about 120 at 4,000rpm right? I may be wrong but im just trying to put things together piece by piece, lol.

Maybe in your Civic that will work. First v8 shos are auto so you can't do that. The yamaha has a neutral rev limiter which is crazy low to protect that expensive ($10 000us new replacement cost) engine and a 1-2 shift rev limiter and then a all around rev limiter at like 7000rpm. A v8 sho could probably do excess of 180 mph however like all cars they are limited to the tires installed on them. Most cars are limited to the max speed of the factory installed H rated tires.

Also speed and rpm are not directly proportional. 60 @ 2000rpm does not mean 120 @ 4000rpm. Like your civic could ever get to 120.

Sho v8s are sickly slow in the 1/4" 3.0 Duratecs beat them. They highway is the v8 shos playground.

Jays_sho
09-02-2003, 10:21 PM
Sho v8s are sickly slow in the 1/4" 3.0 Duratecs beat them.
Hmmm I think that 55 shot of laughing gas has gave you the big head Pat.....there's no way, stock for stock a Duratec will whoop a SHO in the 1/4...sorry just won't happen. Unless the SHO driver is a :loser: . Im sure you have seen this video..... SHO POWER (http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=61167&toggle)
and his was modded and I was stock......

TouringAccord
09-03-2003, 12:41 AM
I had my 93 SHO 5-speed to 140mph. Im sure you could get that V-8 one there even though the 91-95 SHO are faster in the 1/4 mile
the 03 cobra is not a mid 13 car you nutbrain, it runs a 12.8 fool, will outcorner and outbrake your LS1 any day, while its blowing its doors off down the track.

Patrick Norris
09-03-2003, 05:22 AM
Sho v8s are sickly slow in the 1/4" 3.0 Duratecs beat them.
Hmmm I think that 55 shot of laughing gas has gave you the big head Pat.....there's no way, stock for stock a Duratec will whoop a SHO in the 1/4...sorry just won't happen. Unless the SHO driver is a :loser: . Im sure you have seen this video..... SHO POWER (http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=61167&toggle)
and his was modded and I was stock......

It is a well known fact that v8 shos only run 15.8 - 16.2 stock 1/4 times. Stock duratecs run 15.6 - 16.4 stock. I never said it was crap just that the v8 auto isn't a 1/4 car stock.

lux92886
09-11-2003, 11:37 PM
ummm not exactlly sure but i think the 96 thru 99 sho's v8 was an option i do know a girl with a v6 sho.

I have a 1995 V6 SHO. It was the last year it came with the V6. 96 saw the redesign of the Taurus, and the 3.4L V8. The V8 was also built and designed by Yamaha.

mikegee
09-12-2003, 04:13 PM
I have a 1995 V6 SHO. It was the last year it came with the V6. 96 saw the redesign of the Taurus, and the 3.4L V8. The V8 was also built and designed by Yamaha.


wow a v8 yamaha engine i've only heard nice things bout yamaha built engines but the inline4s have low torque. but not a real problem in my eyes

Alex_Perry
09-12-2003, 05:25 PM
the v8 was only half-designed by yamaha. ford had input on its design this time, as where the v6's were all yamaha.

yes, the duratec's will outrun a v8 SHO in the 1/4, a friend has a sable with a dura and took a lot of gen3 sho's in ohio at norwalk a while back.

and about torque, trust me, theres more than enough at your disposal :D

SHOthyme
09-12-2003, 05:59 PM
My parents have a 1998 Ford Taurus SHO which i am currently driving while my Civic is out, and i notice it has a 150mpg speedo. I was wondering what the top speed is in a stock 98 SHO or if there is a governer or what. I figure i may as well ask someone who has dont it or someone who knows what its set at, cuz i can't even go 10 over after getting my ticket. Im just a curious 16 year old, lol.


hey man I dont know about the v8 but I am 19 and I have a 92 sho and I have had it over 200kpm many times there are a fun car I LOVE MINE. take your v8 out find a long road drive to the end look for the cop0s then turn around and go for the ride of your life let me know how it goes. :smokin:

mikegee
09-13-2003, 10:04 AM
the v8 was only half-designed by yamaha. ford had input on its design this time, as where the v6's were all yamaha.

yes, the duratec's will outrun a v8 SHO in the 1/4, a friend has a sable with a dura and took a lot of gen3 sho's in ohio at norwalk a while back.

and about torque, trust me, theres more than enough at your disposal :D


i was refering to the inline 4 yamaha found in the 180 hp pontiac vibe which is what 125-135 lbs foot of torque.

lux92886
09-13-2003, 10:54 AM
Hmm, the Pontiac Vibe is the same vehicle as the Toyota Matrix. Sure that's not a Toyota engine?

90civicracer
09-13-2003, 02:39 PM
No one more than me would love to take any halfway fast car out to test its limits but there are a couple reasons I just can't go out and do it. First off I have shitty luck and something would probably go wrong in the car...also it isn't my car and if my parents found out i did somethin like that I'd be dead...and again w/ the shitty luck, there probably would be a cop coming the other way when i was hauling ass and i'd get fucked over and I CAN'T get another ticket.

mikegee
09-13-2003, 04:25 PM
Hmm, the Pontiac Vibe is the same vehicle as the Toyota Matrix. Sure that's not a Toyota engine?


im 100% sure that they do share the 130 hp engine that came out of the corrolla but the matrix's 180 hp engine came from a celica and the vibe's engine is ok maybe part or whole but was done but yamaha.

Alex_Perry
09-15-2003, 11:16 PM
the vibe is the exact same as the matrix. right down to the same poor build quality :D

afaik, the engine is a toyota design, though.

mikegee
09-16-2003, 05:15 PM
the vibe is the exact same as the matrix. right down to the same poor build quality :D

afaik, the engine is a toyota design, though.


nope the 180 hp engine found in the vibe has nothing to do with toyota its part or full done by yamaha.

mikegee
09-16-2003, 05:19 PM
they even have different fuel delivery systems.

SR20DETpower
09-17-2003, 07:54 AM
this reminds me of the picture from Japan I saw of a get this...

Toyota Cavalier

:screwy:

twilightsable99
09-22-2003, 01:05 AM
The 89-95 manuals had a 3.0L V6, the 92-95 automatics had a 3.2L V6 (bored out 3.0 with milder cams to work with auto trans) and all 96-99s had a 3.4L V8.

The regular Taurus is governed to 112 mph, the V6 SHO I beleive is not governed (someone correct me if i'm wrong) and the V8 SHO will shut down at 144.

The reason some Duratecs will beat SHO's in the 1/4 has to do with both maintenance history (the V8SHO is very maintenance dependant and if not kept up it doesn't seem to go as well, also some ar ebuilt better than others I know people running 14.9 right out of the box and some can't break into the 15s if their life depended on it), also the gearing in the Duratecs is 3.98 final drive as opposed to 3.77 in the SHOs (a Duratec may outrun a SHO but a SHO will always have a higher top speed than a Duratec).

And as for that engine, I don't think that's the one I think you are thinking of the Toyota MR-2 which has a four banger using a Yamaha built top and a Toyota bottom.

XRoll2000
09-23-2003, 11:37 PM
'92 shos never came in automatic. first year the automatic came out was in '93. :cool:

twilightsable99
09-24-2003, 02:13 AM
Ah word my friend has a 93. Forgot about that. :lol:

Alex_Perry
09-24-2003, 02:44 PM
gotta love the slushbox!

i will not say anything bad about it, as I don't want to incur any bad luck :)

raven_101
11-08-2003, 04:11 PM
ok, a couple things....

The 96-99 SHO ONLY had a V8. It was a joint venture by Ford and Yamaha.

The 89-95 SHO ONLY had a V6. It was Yamaha built, and blows away the 96-99 sho especially with the MTX.

When in neutral the rev limiter kicks in at 4k rpm to stop the toque converter from overheating. (on the 96-99 models)

SHOs rock and anyone who says otherwise hasn't raced one. lol!

raven_101
11-08-2003, 04:19 PM
Oh yeah, one more thing, the Pontiac Vibe is the same as the Toyota Matrix, I'm not sure if there are two models but one of them has the same TOYOTA engine out of the Celica GTS, 1.8 VVTi 180 hp. 100 hp per liter!!!!

Acidbath
11-22-2003, 01:25 PM
You said the LS1 can't be beaten by a mustang?

I beat my buddies 2001 Vette, it is automatic, and it is a convertable, but I beat it with my 191K mile 92 Sho, with a little help from a new MAF, UDP's, 3" mandrel bent cat back, SHO shop Y-pipe, Cobra fuel pump, stage 1 Cams, and just some damn fine shifting. Personally I like the Blue ovals, and I can think of another that would beat it, it's called a lightning, with a new pulley for the blower and a chip to match it. The lightining, as well as the new Cobra are only tuned to %60 of their potential for warranty reasons. Let's not even talk about truck engines. =)

Acidbath
11-22-2003, 01:34 PM
That's would be phat to be rollin down the highway doin 160 passin cars left and right and havin them wonder "WHAT THE FUCK...WAS THAT A TAURUS THAT PASSED ME" lol. You gotta give love for the SHO's, their pretty damn quick. Too bad the 96-99 didn't come w/ an option of a 5 or even 6 speed...that woulda been sweet.

Well I have buried my speedo a few times, and at mid ohio raceway I was clocked at 162, I think I could have squeezed out a few more, but I still had my subs in the trunk along with all my tools for work. But when you're running in excess of 7000 RPM and 93 Octaine is around $2.00 a gallon, kind of makes me think twice about that kind of extended "adventures" Although I will say that the SHO and it's jewel of an engine has avoided me about 4 tickets. =) Gotta love triple black at night. =)

98taurusse
11-24-2003, 06:53 AM
I heard from someone that they said they think the 98 and i think 99 is governed to like 120. This could be right because ive taken a couple things into consideration. First off if u just stick the car in neutral and rev it my car stops at 4,000rpm...and i know when driving in 4th gear at 60mph it is right at about 2,000rpm. So if there is a governer set for 4,000rpm in 4th gear that would be right about 120 at 4,000rpm right? I may be wrong but im just trying to put things together piece by piece, lol.


I Have a 98 Taurus SE with the 3.0 Vulcan and I know that mine too has the rotten rev limiter but if you have ever had your SHO up to about 110 it is only taching at 3500 and that was with still having 1/4 pedal left. Don't tell your parents I told you this.......lol...

Leon:)

shoble
07-05-2004, 05:02 PM
You said the LS1 can't be beaten by a mustang?

I beat my buddies 2001 Vette, it is automatic, and it is a convertable, but I beat it with my 191K mile 92 Sho, with a little help from a new MAF, UDP's, 3" mandrel bent cat back, SHO shop Y-pipe, Cobra fuel pump, stage 1 Cams, and just some damn fine shifting. Personally I like the Blue ovals, and I can think of another that would beat it, it's called a lightning, with a new pulley for the blower and a chip to match it. The lightining, as well as the new Cobra are only tuned to %60 of their potential for warranty reasons. Let's not even talk about truck engines. =)
I beat a 2001 vette too. I raced my friends 90 SHO and out did them by 5 seconds in the SCCA.

Ryanqzqz
08-23-2004, 09:04 PM
you taurus guys should check out the TCCA (Taurus Car Club of America)

www.taurusclub.com

Dviper
08-23-2004, 11:11 PM
http://www.panhandlegearheads.com/

97GSTspyder
04-12-2005, 10:09 PM
I heard from someone that they said they think the 98 and i think 99 is governed to like 120. This could be right because ive taken a couple things into consideration. First off if u just stick the car in neutral and rev it my car stops at 4,000rpm...and i know when driving in 4th gear at 60mph it is right at about 2,000rpm. So if there is a governer set for 4,000rpm in 4th gear that would be right about 120 at 4,000rpm right? I may be wrong but im just trying to put things together piece by piece, lol.


not exactly... all Taurus's SHOs or not (except the 5 speed SHO) have the neutral/park limiter set to 4000 RPMS... so your basically saying if you floor it and your RPMS hit 4000 RPMS it cuts out... no way.. all 96-99 SHOs are limted to 144MPH

th30n3th3ym1ss3d
04-12-2005, 10:36 PM
By Far the first and second gens are faster then the others you can't compete with either of them. And I also believe the last gens the limiter is lower then 144mph and the redline is 6800 but the govener come in way lower so don't even try. I believe the cut off is 5 mph less at 139 which makes first and second gens faster.

have Fun

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