What does dsm mean?


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harrybeaver
07-10-2003, 01:22 AM
What does dsm mean? Dosent Start Much? That is the only thing ive heard for it and i dont think that is right. Please tell me if im wrong.

blasian_man
07-10-2003, 01:24 AM
diamond star motors i think. . .correct me if im wrong, i know i got the first 2 words right though

tino
07-10-2003, 01:26 AM
ys i think thats right. But i was reading today that diamond stars quit makin the eclipse motor in 94 but we still call a 2g a dsm?

harrybeaver
07-10-2003, 01:28 AM
Whats a 2g?



Beetles kick ass!

tino
07-10-2003, 01:30 AM
a 2nd generation eclipse any eclipse that was made from 1995-1999

blasian_man
07-10-2003, 01:30 AM
tino is talking about generations, or car styles, there were the older more boxed looking ones, and the rounded bubbly ones

harrybeaver
07-10-2003, 01:32 AM
Whats the difference between the 3 generations?

Beetles kick ass!

tino
07-10-2003, 01:35 AM
1st generation was a little faster but not much but it was ugly in my opinion. 2g are fast and they look awsome. and mitsubishi screwed up with the 3g by makin it slower (no turbo).

harrybeaver
07-10-2003, 01:41 AM
is there a body style differece between the 2g and 3g?

kjewer1
07-10-2003, 03:56 AM
Yes. The 3g is the 2000+. Quite different from the 2g


Diamond Start Motors was a joint venture between chrylser and mitsu. The name comes from the diamond in the mitsu logo, and the star for the chrysler logo. :wink: The company dissolved in 94, but most 95s like mine still have the DSM tag on the firewall. The two companys still work together on a lot of cars.

aves911
07-10-2003, 06:41 AM
Just FYI on the history of DSM, started in the late 80's when Chrysler bought half of Mitsubishi. The brainchilds were the T/E/L (Talon, Eclipse, Laser) Chrysler sold 25% of is share back to Mitsu in 94, the death of the Laser. However, Chrysler held onto the last 25% until 97. That's why the Talon's stopped in 97 and all 89-97 T/E/L have a DSM badge.

Just for those who were curious

EclipsNgirl
07-10-2003, 10:27 AM
1st generation was a little faster but not much but it was ugly in my opinion

Now hold up...you trying to tell me this 1g is ugly????

http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_01_small.jpg
http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_02_tiny.jpg http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_06_tiny.jpg http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_04_tiny.jpg

Zero8985
07-10-2003, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by EclipsNgirl


Now hold up...you trying to tell me this 1g is ugly????



I see someone rolling on 2g wheels.:biggrin:

LandoAWD
07-10-2003, 12:11 PM
My 1g is ugly :(

3g=not even close to a DSM.

Talon007
07-10-2003, 04:01 PM
1G or go home :biggrin:

tino
07-10-2003, 04:05 PM
I take that back if u take care of it ur 1gs will look awsome, but in my town theres alot of 1gs that ppl just treat as regular cars and as any car gets older its gona b in bad shape if not takin care of. The only body style i actualy hate is the 3g.

tino
07-10-2003, 04:22 PM
sry eclipsngirl urs is awsome. In fact i think its the best 1g ive ever seen :wink:

RockinWRX
07-10-2003, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by EclipsNgirl


Now hold up...you trying to tell me this 1g is ugly????

http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_01_small.jpg
http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_02_tiny.jpg http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_06_tiny.jpg http://www.columbusdsm.com/members/images/car1_Sam_Baker_04_tiny.jpg

No way the 1G is ugly. I much prefer them to the 2G. The 2G is also heavier.

95_GSX
07-10-2003, 08:50 PM
once again all must worship EclipsNgirl's 1G....:worshippy. like i said before it is the cleanest 1G i have ever seen.

LandoAWD
07-11-2003, 09:13 AM
:frown:

















:tongue:

tino
07-11-2003, 01:32 PM
Its just awsome

eclipse0138
07-22-2003, 02:36 AM
i dont care what anyone says that car is ugly as sin 2g's kick ass

tino
07-22-2003, 02:39 AM
Ya i agree i like 2gs better than any eclipse.

RockinWRX
07-22-2003, 03:31 AM
2G's are ugly and fat. You must like your cars like you like your women. I prefer mine sleek and hot ............ Like the 1G. And the 1G will kick the 2G's ass for speed any day. :thefinger

Talon007
07-22-2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by RockinWRX
2G's are ugly and fat. You must like your cars like you like your women. I prefer mine sleek and hot ............ Like the 1G. And the 1G will kick the 2G's ass for speed any day. :thefinger

Couldn't have said it any better :biggrin:

Hudson
07-22-2003, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by aves911
Just FYI on the history of DSM, started in the late 80's when Chrysler bought half of Mitsubishi. The brainchilds were the T/E/L (Talon, Eclipse, Laser) Chrysler sold 25% of is share back to Mitsu in 94, the death of the Laser. However, Chrysler held onto the last 25% until 97. That's why the Talon's stopped in 97 and all 89-97 T/E/L have a DSM badge.

Just for those who were curious

Actually, this isn't quite right.

Chrysler acquired about 1/3 of Mitsubishi from the early 1970s into the 1980s. In the late 1980s, Mitsubishi and Chrysler formed Diamond-Star Motors where each of them held 50% of the new company. Chrysler sold it's DSM holdings in October 1991 to Mitsubishi. In 1994, Chrysler sold all 23.25 million shares that it held of Mitsubishi. Shortly after the "merger" between Chrysler and Daimler-Benz, DaimlerChrysler bought about 1/3 of Mitsubishi again.

I don't believe that all Talons, Eclipses, and Lasers had "DSM" badges, since Diamond-Star Motors became Mitsubishi Motor Manufacturing of America in 1995.

kjewer1
07-22-2003, 04:12 PM
Like I said earlier, some 95s, or maybe all 95s had the DSM tag. Good info by the way.

2of9
07-22-2003, 11:30 PM
what else does DSM stand for? i kno Diamond Star Motors, but anything cool

RockinWRX
07-23-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by Silver_GTR34
what else does DSM stand for? i kno Diamond Star Motors, but anything cool

Damm Stupid Mitsubishi. (when it breaks for the 4th time in a week)


Damm Sorry ass Mechanics (when they can't fix it right....the 8th time....)

Darn Slow 1/4 Miles ( My personal fave :thefinger )

97eclipse97
07-24-2003, 01:18 AM
Sorry to all you 1G lovers, but speed and weight aside, the 2gs are by far the best looking...especially the 97-99's...for me...the 1g's are just too, well, 80's looking
:bigthumb: Gotta Love the 2g's

RockinWRX
07-24-2003, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by 97eclipse97
Sorry to all you 1G lovers, but speed and weight aside, the 2gs are by far the best looking...especially the 97-99's...for me...the 1g's are just too, well, 80's looking
:bigthumb: Gotta Love the 2g's

Well , you drive an RS , so your mindless post will be excused.......:loser:

Talon007
07-24-2003, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by RockinWRX


Well , you drive an RS , so your mindless post will be excused.......:loser:

:lol: :spit: :owned: :nutkick: :iamwithst

97eclipse97
07-24-2003, 02:02 AM
Fair enough...and after my RS is running a full second faster than your WRX...then will my remark have a point.
BTW, how much did your lovely wagon cost???

RockinWRX
07-24-2003, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by 97eclipse97
Fair enough...and after my RS is running a full second faster than your WRX...then will my remark have a point.
BTW, how much did your lovely wagon cost???

You'll never run a full second quicker than me. You have a lot of work to do to even get into 15's.......:lol: I wish you luck. The wagon was $27K , mostly because some factory installed STi stuff. And the rare Sonic Yellow color. Don't forget I also run mid 14's at 6000 FEET altitude. Lets see if I can get this pic in here.....me at 16 psi....:lol:

zer0bot
07-24-2003, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by RockinWRX


And the rare Sonic Yellow color. Don't forget I also run mid 14's at 6000 FEET altitude. Lets see if I can get this pic in here.....me at 16 psi....:lol:

you got the yellow! lucky bastard. a girl at my work has the yellow, it is crazy looking.


zer0:sunglasse

RockinWRX
07-24-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by zer0bot


you got the yellow! lucky bastard. a girl at my work has the yellow, it is crazy looking.


zer0:sunglasse

And heres the little beast itself. :biggrin:

zer0bot
07-25-2003, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by RockinWRX


Well , you drive an RS , so your mindless post will be excused.......:loser:


man you are ruthless, funny but ruthless.


zer0:sunglasse

timex
07-26-2003, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Hudson


Actually, this isn't quite right.

Chrysler acquired about 1/3 of Mitsubishi from the early 1970s into the 1980s. In the late 1980s, Mitsubishi and Chrysler formed Diamond-Star Motors where each of them held 50% of the new company. Chrysler sold it's DSM holdings in October 1991 to Mitsubishi. In 1994, Chrysler sold all 23.25 million shares that it held of Mitsubishi. Shortly after the "merger" between Chrysler and Daimler-Benz, DaimlerChrysler bought about 1/3 of Mitsubishi again.

I don't believe that all Talons, Eclipses, and Lasers had "DSM" badges, since Diamond-Star Motors became Mitsubishi Motor Manufacturing of America in 1995.

if you think about it, all Lasers WOULD have DSM badges, because they didn't even make it to 1995. :)

RockinWRX
07-26-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by timex


if you think about it, all Lasers WOULD have DSM badges, because they didn't even make it to 1995. :)

Yup , '94 being their last year. :smile:

timex
07-28-2003, 01:56 AM
Originally posted by RockinWRX


You'll never run a full second quicker than me. You have a lot of work to do to even get into 15's.......:lol: I wish you luck. The wagon was $27K , mostly because some factory installed STi stuff. And the rare Sonic Yellow color. Don't forget I also run mid 14's at 6000 FEET altitude. Lets see if I can get this pic in here.....me at 16 psi....:lol:

can I see a further out pic of that with the whole dash? that gauge just looks funky in that pic to me. lol :)

RockinWRX
07-28-2003, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by timex


can I see a further out pic of that with the whole dash? that gauge just looks funky in that pic to me. lol :)

Dash at night view. Its very hard to take pics under full boost .:biggrin: This camera particularly sucks at night. Sorry , I don't have a daytime shot. I will post one when I take it.

timex
07-28-2003, 05:22 AM
Originally posted by RockinWRX


Dash at night view. Its very hard to take pics under full boost .:biggrin: This camera particularly sucks at night. Sorry , I don't have a daytime shot. I will post one when I take it.

i mean just of the dash, not even at speed. just wanna see what the whole thing looks like altogether. :)

RockinWRX
07-28-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by timex


i mean just of the dash, not even at speed. just wanna see what the whole thing looks like altogether. :)

Yeah I figured that. But that pic is the only mostly whole dash shot I have. I'll get one in here later.

timex
07-28-2003, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by RockinWRX


Yeah I figured that. But that pic is the only mostly whole dash shot I have. I'll get one in here later.

aight, ill look forward to seeing that then :)

RockinWRX
08-01-2003, 05:07 PM
Heres the whole guage pod shot. :biggrin:

GaLaNt_DOHC_89
08-01-2003, 10:55 PM
Well being that I have owned two 1g's and my freind owns a 2g, I would have two say 1g's look hella better, and are faster than the 2g. 3g, I won't even go there. But that's just my opinion.

GaLaNt_DOHC_89
08-01-2003, 11:03 PM
Oh yeah I almost forgot, EclipsNgirl, nice 1g. And LandoAWD, nice Laser, haven't ever seen one in that good of shape. Nice work ladies. :bigthumb:

timex
08-02-2003, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by RockinWRX
Heres the whole guage pod shot. :biggrin:

ahh, much better, i can actually see it now. the first pic with basically just the boost gauge looked kinda funky, but i see it now ;)

RockinWRX
08-03-2003, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by timex


ahh, much better, i can actually see it now. the first pic with basically just the boost gauge looked kinda funky, but i see it now ;)

Yeah , that first one was just an boost "action" shot. :cool:

dragracingchimp1
08-03-2003, 04:12 AM
Diamond Star Motors. And everyone who says a 1gen looks better than 2gen is just in denial!

RockinWRX
08-03-2003, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by dragracingchimp1
Diamond Star Motors. And everyone who says a 1gen looks better than 2gen is just in denial!

Denial of what ? I'd say 2G lovers are in denial , their cars are slower and heavier. Call it penis envy , if you like. 1Ger's have nothing to be envious about. We KNOW we are faster. And our cars engines don't break as easy. :thefinger But hey , if you like UFO styling , more power to ya. Personally , I think 2Ger's were smoking crack and lookin at the pretty colors when they bought those cars , but hey............:lol:

kjewer1
08-03-2003, 04:33 AM
Up here in New england there are exactly 3 1Gs that are faster than my heavier slower 2g :wink: There arent any 2Gs though... But they are easier to make fast, with less money. Ah well.... The ugly 1Gs have grown on me, and if I did it all again I would go 1g just for the cost difference...

RockinWRX
08-03-2003, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by 95 GSXracer
Up here in New england there are exactly 3 1Gs that are faster than my heavier slower 2g :wink: There arent any 2Gs though... But they are easier to make fast, with less money. Ah well.... The ugly 1Gs have grown on me, and if I did it all again I would go 1g just for the cost difference...

Well , I wasn't talking about you. No offense.....:icon16:

kjewer1
08-03-2003, 04:46 AM
hehe. None taken :cool: SOmetimes I Think about the 12k I paid for my car back then, and how many mods that could have bought me. More than I've spent thus far.... Ah well. :smile:

RockinWRX
08-03-2003, 05:31 AM
Originally posted by 95 GSXracer
hehe. None taken :cool: SOmetimes I Think about the 12k I paid for my car back then, and how many mods that could have bought me. More than I've spent thus far.... Ah well. :smile:

Yeah , I paid $4700 for my '92 Eclipse ( with 106K ) Can you say dealer ripoff? It had a cracked exhaust mani , which I replaced , and then spent about $2500 in mods. 3000 GT fuel pump , Profec-B boost controller , S-AFC-1 , Autometer boost and A/F guages plus pod , Thermal-Research 3" catback ( Now residing in my Galant ) , K+N filter , and Greddy turbo timer. Plus a few other "ricey" non-power mods , such as PIAA driving lights and fake HID bulbs ( :loser: ) It was an unlucky car , though , nothing but engine problems. I parted it out and sold it as a shell last year to a guy who was gonna build it into a 10 sec car. Now I have the Galant , but I'd gladly trade it for an older turbo 1G . :biggrin:

LandoAWD
08-03-2003, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by GaLaNt_DOHC_89
And LandoAWD, nice Laser, haven't ever seen one in that good of shape. Nice work ladies. :bigthumb: :lol: I'm a dude, dude :p

RockinWRX
08-03-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by LandoAWD
:lol: I'm a dude, dude :p


Never seen a chick named "Lando" before , either. :bloated: :confused:

timex
08-03-2003, 07:08 PM
i think he's referring to the last photo in the album, and just can't read at the bottom where it says *under description* "my 2 loves." lol

Talon007
08-03-2003, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by RockinWRX
Plus a few other "ricey" non-power mods , such as PIAA driving lights and fake HID bulbs ( :loser: )

:loser: :loser: :icon16: :loser: :lol:

RockinWRX
08-04-2003, 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Talon007


:loser: :loser: :icon16: :loser: :lol:

Hey , stfu , that was early in my DSM career.......:lol:

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