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Twin Turbocharged Vulcan 3.0 :DSupaStealth TT 07-04-2003, 04:51 PM Well, i'm just gettin sick of my incredibly slow 99 Taurus, i have a cold air intake, Bosche Platinum plugs and a custom exhaust on it, and i just barely beat a newer ford minivan in a Drag race!!!! currently i have plans to twin turbo charge my car, although it might not be the smartest thing to do with such a low power engine it seams like the only thing i can do. the engine only has 69000 miles so it still has plenty of life. Im still searching for two turbos, but since ford put a fricken oil filter right in the front middle of the engine :sly: it'll have to be kinda small to fit, i'm lookin' for turbos from a probe or eclipse or somethin' along that order, i'm goina custom fabricate the current manifolds to accept a turbo. the other issues i might run into are vacuum lines and routing pipes, but i'll figure it out :iceslolan Ringo 07-04-2003, 09:43 PM Holy shit!! I don't believe it. You really gonna go through with this? That's awesome! How aqbout the turbo kit off a Thunderbird turbo coupe? dan_taurus 07-04-2003, 11:15 PM let me know your total costs when finished please. i highly recomend a chip. helps everything run so much better.oh ya, they make a supper charger for the vulcan to eh SupaStealth TT 07-05-2003, 01:27 PM that thunderbird turbo coupe is only a I4 though isnt it? i would like to get some turbo manifolds that would make the job lots easier, but i'm goina be doin' lots of fabricating anyways though. yeah, i cant really afford to buy that supercharger kit, its like 4 grand isn't it, plus, the cool factor, bein' able to say my crappy ford taurus is twin turbocharged, hearin' people laugh will make my day, lol. yeah, i'm lookin to spend under 750 bucks. and be able to put everything in as soon as possible (like in under 4 days) just a consant work on it i suppose, i have some buddies that are goina pitch in and help me with it so it should go pretty smooth. i'm not sure, but just an estimate i'm shootin' for is approx. 250 hp? so i'm not sure if i'll need injectors and a fuel pump or not, i'll have to talk to some peops on the stock injectors and how much they'll handle. SupaStealth TT 07-08-2003, 01:53 PM Well, today i just bought 2 TD04 turbos for US $110.00. i should be getting them this weekend. i think i'm going to install the front one first, then probably about a week later i'll install the other one. Ringo 07-08-2003, 02:53 PM Originally posted by SupaStealth TT Well, today i just bought 2 TD04 turbos for US $110.00. i should be getting them this weekend. i think i'm going to install the front one first, then probably about a week later i'll install the other one. Is that a Mitsubishi turbo? I think its the one the STI uses, just one can do 300 hp, how much horsepower are you planing on making, 600 hp? SupaStealth TT 07-09-2003, 02:10 PM ha 600hp out of a vulcan, that would be funny to see, umm actually the 3000gt VR4 uses 2 of them to and has 320hp with a 3.0L V6. There are different models of them, the ones out of the STi are a little bit bigger than the ones i'm getting. I'm planning to make about 250hp by the time i'm done. just wonderin' if i'm goina have to get mustang injectors and a fuel pump. Ringo 07-09-2003, 02:48 PM Originally posted by SupaStealth TT just wonderin' if i'm goina have to get mustang injectors and a fuel pump. that's a definite yes, you'll need a new fuel pressure regulator as well. but let me warn you that you also may need to get free flow catallitic converters because the stock ones tent to load up(get clogged)! SupaStealth TT 07-10-2003, 02:05 PM so would mustang injectors fit? and would they be the right choice?, i heard of people using them on other cars, but not really on the taurus. also, where would i find a fuel pump that would work best, also the fuel pressure regulator, i'm not to educated on the fuel delivery system so... beyondloadedSE 07-11-2003, 11:10 PM sounds pretty cool...although i dont really see the benefit of doing a twin turbo setup over a single turbo setup. unless your just going for the pimp factor. :biggrin: i sure hope that thing fits, i own a contour, and have the same 3.0L duratec engine that the 99+ Taurus uses, and there is no way that a twin turbo setup would fit on my car. btw, hope u have plans to upgrade internals. no way your getting 600 hp on stock rods, crank, and pistons for that matter! how do the vulcan and duratec internals compare? i have some 8.5:1 Ross Racing pistons and Pauter Rods for my motor. I can get you some if you like. DaGr8Tim 07-12-2003, 12:51 AM Originally posted by beyondloadedSE btw, hope u have plans to upgrade internals. no way your getting 600 hp on stock rods, crank, and pistons for that matter! how do the vulcan and duratec internals compare? i have some 8.5:1 Ross Racing pistons and Pauter Rods for my motor. I can get you some if you like. The DuraTech and the Vulcan are not as similar as many think. I belive the duratech is an ohc engine similar to the 3.0 in the SHO. The Vulcan is an older design and is an ohv (pushrod) engine. I believe I've heard around 135 HP & 150 lb ft. Also with a vulcan and alittle machining, you can get SHO parts to work. That way you can used the forged stuff instead of cast. beyondloadedSE 07-12-2003, 01:07 AM duratec is dohc. 200 hp/200 tq....goes all the way up to 241 hp if you get the lincoln ls engine. SupaStealth TT 07-12-2003, 12:43 PM like i've stated quite a few times before, i'm only planning to get about 250hp, Vulcan is a SOHC, Duratec is a DOHC, grrr.. i wish i had a duratec. the vulcans only have 140hp stock. i cant even do a burn out if i wanted to, which is a good thing but it makes it hard to pass the incredibly slow people when i need to. dan_taurus 07-13-2003, 12:05 AM free flow exaust and cat, k+n filters, 19 lbs/hr injectors,fuell pump from 5.0, 50mm maf, bosch plat 4 plugs, accel 8mm wires, high spark ignition, run hight octane and have superchip. my vulcan can inch away from a 98SHO.135hp:lol: i don't think so.you should let me know evrything you gotta do to get this turbo going. i need more to do to. SupaStealth TT 07-13-2003, 02:03 PM yeah for sure dan, well, the guy i'm supposed to be gettin these fricken turbos from hasn't reasponded to me since monday, so i'm thinkin' im goina have to look at others'. well, i have once cold air filter so far, straight pipe for a muffler with a tip, not plannin' to have cats (shhh :cwm27: ) i have bosche platinums (i was talkin' with the guy at checker auto and he said that these work just as well in the american engines, but if it was japanese then it would be worth the extra 4 bux a plug for the platinum 4's) i'm goina have to look on the net for used mustang fuel stuff. I am getting a superchip, that would probably be the best thing. well, i'm outa here, i'll keep updatin' dan_taurus 07-13-2003, 02:26 PM as far as my free flow cat goes, take it off. put a stick through it, tada high flow.when doing repaires, tell them you want everything for a SHO.more durable for what we do(struts, ball joints, wheel barings etc). dan_taurus 07-13-2003, 02:37 PM i went with 2 1/4 inch duell exhaust too SupaStealth TT 07-13-2003, 03:39 PM wow, that is a sweet ass car dan, do you have the vulcan too? well, i just did some more measuring and i'm not too sure if i can fit a turbo in the back bank of cylinders, there isn't much space, i think the only way i can put one back there is if i build custom turbo headers that point up, theres lots of space above the headers, but, the whole money issue is my prob, i'm going to college this fall so...but i would still be happy with one turbo, but not as happy :frown: but if i did headers for the back, i would also make them in the front, since there isn't too much space in the front either due to the air conditioning crap and oil filter. I am determained though to get at least one turbo in this car. another thing i was wondering, how would you do a single turbo setup with all six cylinders? cause then i would just get a T4 turbo (HUGE) there is one on ebay for like 150 bux and ending in 6hours. DaGr8Tim 07-13-2003, 06:16 PM Originally posted by dan_taurus free flow exaust and cat, k+n filters, 19 lbs/hr injectors,fuell pump from 5.0, 50mm maf, bosch plat 4 plugs, accel 8mm wires, high spark ignition, run hight octane and have superchip. my vulcan can inch away from a 98SHO.135hp:lol: i don't think so.you should let me know evrything you gotta do to get this turbo going. i need more to do to. The 135 HP number I quoted was from a 94. Being a Tempo freak, I don't keep track of the vulcan after 94 (when the tempo died). They probably make more than that. But speaking of SHO's. There's a guy in Canada with an 89 SHO motor in his 94 Topaz. He's got something like 220HP with his mods, plus a 75 shot of giggle gas. His personal website: http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/topazsho His parts site: http://www.tempo-topaz-performance.com/ SR20DETpower 07-13-2003, 11:25 PM 3.8L ownz you Vulcan nutheads!!!! its basically a 5.0L mustang engine with two less cylinders and pushrods.... its got hella more torque then the Vulcan.... and it burns rubber nicely.... Yamaha 3.0 v6 owns all Tauruses DaGr8Tim 07-14-2003, 01:51 AM Originally posted by SR20DETpower 3.8L ownz you Vulcan nutheads!!!! its basically a 5.0L mustang engine with two less cylinders and pushrods.... its got hella more torque then the Vulcan.... and it burns rubber nicely.... Yamaha 3.0 v6 owns all Tauruses Yeah, the 3.8 also has a nasty habit of blowing up without any warning. SupaStealth TT 07-14-2003, 06:00 PM thanks for that info SR20, it was very a.... :eek7: not relavent. anyways... beyondloadedSE 07-14-2003, 11:46 PM Originally posted by SupaStealth TT another thing i was wondering, how would you do a single turbo setup with all six cylinders all you have to do is make a collector pipe or in other terms, a y pipe that will power the turbo. heres a pic of one for the contour with the turbo manifolds. click me (http://mishappa.image.pbase.com/u11/anastazi/upload/10997718.MVC001S.JPG) SupaStealth TT 07-15-2003, 04:29 PM sorry dude it says forbidden, just attach the file, i'm really interested to see the pic. SniperX13 07-15-2003, 05:06 PM now the big question, is how easy will it be to turbocharge, or supercharge a 3.0L Duratec :) :twak: SupaStealth TT 07-15-2003, 08:14 PM i'm not sure if the engine bay is set up the same way on a Duratec engine taurus, but i would assume that it is probably the same difficulty. well, i did more figuring, i'm thinkin' i am goina relocate the battery and do a single turbo right in that whole intake spot. I think i'm goina use a T4 turbo now, if i can find one reasonably priced. mobiuslogic 07-16-2003, 02:00 AM What's up you all. First post going up right here. As for injectors, the vulcan engines with the flex fuel engine (lets you run E85 ethanol) come STOCK with 24# injectors. You can get them stock and the matching fuel pump, but you'll need a reprogram. As for twin turbos, there's no way you'll be able to do it in a ford, especially the vulcan. The upper intake manifold is not designed for it at all. If you want to build your own, be my guest, but on any other twin turbo engine, there are seperate upper intake manifolds for each cylinder bank for each turbo, sometimes to seperate lower intake manifolds also. If you're thinking you can take twin turbos and link them together into a single intake through a Y pipe, that's completely unproductive and the turbos will start fighting each other due to pressure differences just from different cylinders firing on each bank. Just get a single turbo designed for a ~3L engine with a 2.5 exhaust pipe to high flow cats and go duel exhaust with a pair of flowmaster 40 originals. That biatch will roar. Id also suggest getting the engine ported and polished, that will make a big difference as well. Stock up on head gaskets too.:biggrin: -mobiuslogic EDIT: also, about the MAF, whoever said go 50mm maf is apparently out of it. Stock is 55 on the vulcan. I'd go up to a 63mm at least and a matching CAI and have the intake port/polished to 63mm as well. SupaStealth TT 07-16-2003, 10:18 AM well, thanx for the advise mobiuslogic, but i have a question for ya about the whole cant have two turbos (even though i've decided on just one now anyways) thing, what about the 3000gt VR-4, that has just about the same type of intake manifold (at least upper) as the vulcan, and it routes both of the intercooler pipes together with a Y pipe into the intake? Unless i'm overlooking something, but it could seam logical that if the turbos are puting out different boost that they could fight each other. oh, i'm not sure if i have flex fuel, i doubt it, i think it's suppose to say on my fuel door if it is. attached is an engine pic of a VR4 mobiuslogic 07-16-2003, 04:19 PM Yes you *can* have twin turbos to a single, but they have to be very precisely tuned. I really just meant to make that point that if you try putting two turbos in willy nilly whereever they fit making the pipes to fit also, then you'll run into trouble because the whole system won't be tuned at all. Unless your an automotive engineer what specializes in physics and calculus and can do the math to tune the system to the right length, width and pressure. Besides, it's just a damn Vulcan engine. As for ethanol, it will say on the inside of the gas tank door "Ethanol or Unleaded Gas Only" or it'll have a Flex Fuel badge on the fenders. This is what mine looks like. -mobiuslogic beyondloadedSE 07-16-2003, 06:05 PM is there even room to fit a turbo kit on the atx taurus. i know with the atx contour its a no good because of room issues. dan_taurus 07-16-2003, 09:02 PM i,m glad you have this new flex fuel vulcan but my canadian 96 vulcan came with 160hp stock, 40mm maf, 16lbs injectors.totaly differant systems i'm sure. SupaStealth TT 07-16-2003, 09:07 PM yeah, i know that it really wouldn't be tuned, i know very little about thermodynamics and stuff like that, i just graduated high school, what do ya expect, although i do consider myself very mechanically inclined for someone my age. this is just kind of a little project to see what i can do. Well, i know my vulcan isn't a flex fuel. KrAzYStOrM 07-21-2003, 01:27 AM You should get a SHO v8 engine and twin turbocharge that!!!!! :useless: mobiuslogic 07-21-2003, 02:08 AM Originally posted by dan_taurus i,m glad you have this new flex fuel vulcan but my canadian 96 vulcan came with 160hp stock, 40mm maf, 16lbs injectors.totaly differant systems i'm sure. My flex fuel puts out 155hp stock, 185lb/ft torque, has 24# injectors and a 55mm throttle body and MAF. I've done a few minor mods and I'm at about 165hp and ~200lb/ft torque Grande 07-21-2003, 07:12 PM lol! a turbo Taurus? now I've seen everything! good luck! Grande 07-21-2003, 07:15 PM Originally posted by SR20DETpower its basically a 5.0L mustang engine with two less cylinders and pushrods.... No a 3.8 is not a 5.0!! the stroke and bore are completely different. SupaStealth TT 07-21-2003, 09:47 PM YAY!!!! well today i just bought a Impreza WRX TD04 Turbo, with about 3000 miles on it, i should get it by this weekend, don't worry, i'm goina take lots and lots of pictures :D. :cwm27: well, i've gotsta work early tomorrow, 'night. KrAzYStOrM 07-21-2003, 09:48 PM So does this mean no more twin turbo taurus? SupaStealth TT 07-22-2003, 04:36 PM I doubt i'll put two turbos on there, just the one costs me 245 bux with shipping, so... plus i still have to get injectors, fuel pump a chip, and lots of other littler things. :cool: I was thinkin'... i wonder if i could use injectors out of a thunderbird supercoupe or somethin' blown like that? i don't know, what would be the cheepest and easiest to find at say.. a junk yard? :bloated: :biggrin: SniperX13 07-22-2003, 06:25 PM what t-bird are you going to use? I thought the older turbocoupes were 4 bangers, so wouldn't that make the injectors smaller than the ones from your v6? Are the S/C thunderbirds a 4 or 6 cylinder? Why not get the injectors from a v6 or v8 mustang, would those work? because those cars are a dime a dozen in junkyards. alos, probably alot easier to find than a turbo bird or s/c bird. SniperX13 07-22-2003, 06:27 PM oh, one thing that just occured to me, how much is mazda in the vulcan and duratec? maybe injectors from a older turbo rx-7, or newer one might work as well. just a thought. :twak: SupaStealth TT 07-23-2003, 04:37 PM whats the displacement on the 4 banger thunderbirds, if it 2.0 or greater (which i'm sure it is) then it would be perfect if it was out of a turbo charged engine. cause a 2.0 I-4 is the same as a 3.0 V-6, if ya think of the displacement per cylinder, so if ya have six injectors, then all six are the same per cylinder and for turbo. if that makes sense, lol :bigthumb: Oh yeah, i forgot to meantion that yesterday i relocated the battery to the trunk to make room for the soon to be arriving turbo. :biggrin: SupaStealth TT 08-01-2003, 11:31 PM Turbo Project Canceled Well, it seems like the guy who i bought the turbo from decided to cancel his email acount and i have no way to contact him other than his address, if anyone knows how to get phone numbers from addresses i'd appreciate it so i can contact this guy and either get all my money back or get my fricken turbo. :mad: :biggrin2: thanx much SniperX13 08-02-2003, 06:42 AM dude.......... thats not right. I'm really sorry to hear about your project having to be scrapped, but most of all.... losing your money. I was hoping your insightfulness into this would help me gain more power from my duratec :) keep us informed though, how how the situation is going, on trying to get your money back. :twak: SupaStealth TT 08-02-2003, 12:53 PM Wow!, the wierdest thing happened, i got my turbo in the mail today !?! :eek7: :D yeah, that confused the hell out of me, but i'm hella exited now, well, turbo project is back on :D SniperX13 08-02-2003, 05:16 PM SWEET!!!!!! look forward to more updates. hopefully they can come quickly now that ya got the major component needed :) :twak: SupaStealth TT 08-05-2003, 09:02 AM Well, yesterday, i took a stop at the 'ol exhaust shop, i got a quote for my exhaust plans, he said 4-500 bux easy, so yeah, ya know what that means, i'm doin it myself :D, i don't have a pipe bender so that makes it a little difficult, but i have a torch and i have carefully bent exhaust before, so, lol. Currently, i'm looking for the cheepest rising rate fuel pressure regulator. the cheapest i've found so far was like 235 or somethin, but i don't know about the quality, i think i'm goina go for the cartech one, thats 270 (more than the turbo :mad: ), but ah well i guess, as long as it keeps my engine from deto, hehe. well, i'll be back for more updates, i'm sure i'm goina do lots of stuff this weekend. dan_taurus 08-05-2003, 05:34 PM sorry to say supperstealth, if your upset about cost so far, my supperchip cost 415.00 after freight.well worth it though. my duell exaust cost 250.00 with mufflers and tips,2 1/4 inch stainles joined at the cat. shop around more buddy. SupaStealth TT 08-05-2003, 07:26 PM well, i guess i cant get a fuel regulator (from what i understand), cause i have a non - return fuel system, so yeah, right now i'm workin' on gettin an air/fuel gauge, boost gauge and cobra injectors off of ebay of coarse, lol. yeah, i know this isn't goina be cheep, ha, i said 750 bux for my spending limit, thats probably not goina happen, but i'm still shootin for under $1000, but thats only if you wouldn't calculate my time i'm putin' in. philterlecki 08-08-2003, 04:18 PM dan_taurus 08-12-2003, 06:14 PM i was told you can use a turbo from a desiel, any truth to this? SupaStealth TT 08-13-2003, 05:26 AM I suppose you could... but i don't know if i would, i would think that they would be tuned differently due to the rpm range difference, turbos that i've seen for gas cars reach boost at say 2500 to 3000 rpm, well, thats probably not goina be too much help on a deisel truck, i'm just kinda lookin' at it in that point of view. Well, my Air/fuel gauge and boost gauge are in the mail, they'll be here on friday. I really wish i would've started this project at the beginning of summer, i think my time has run out for this. :frown: That, and the fuel management really hasn't gotten straightened out, i keep hearing that the taurus computer will just relearn itself and go back to the stock fuel curve if i used the Apexi S-AFC (if that would even work on my car?) so yeah, its been fun times. Oh, and i think if i were to get a custom chip from superchips it probably wouldn't get here in time, i leave for school sept 4th. SniperX13 08-13-2003, 05:43 AM try a diablo chip. I think you can get them programmed to your specifics of what you want done. :twak: dan_taurus 08-13-2003, 09:07 PM i got a supper chip programed with all my mods, it got here 11 hours after i ordered it.big differance to. they said i can return for reprograming to after future mods, thats pretty cool! list of mods to date on 96 vulcan. k+n filter kit 55mm maf hight flow cat 2 1/4 inch duell exhaust 19 lbs injectors fuell pump +lines from 88 cobra gt accell ignition accell 8mm wires boch plat 4 plugs boch 150amp alt superchip calibrated for all above big booming sterio red light kit in + under car american racing widow's 16 inch rims with firehawk gta's 225,50,16's stainless steel fender flaires(bring out rims huge) bra + blackouts by doing air, fuell and spark i can inch away from a 98 SHO. i havn't had on dyno, but i figure 250 hp.1 1/4 inch lowering kit on back order. next year i want a 2 1/4 inch cowl induction fibreglass hood and wing. then i really think im done (not likely) Patrick Norris 08-26-2003, 05:26 PM Dude you are so misinformed it ain't funny! You need to do some research before touching that vulcan with a turbo. Try www.tauruscarclub.com for some facts instead of all the heresay I see here. Partsman 08-27-2003, 10:25 PM I agree. With the questions you are asking it is apparant that you have done little if any research into this project. Now if you really want this to have a half a chance at actually working, you should learn about turbo systems and how they work. You will save yourself much time, money and frustration. I hate to be harsh here but you are totally clueless about this. If you can't figure out something as simple as how you would feed a single turbo off both cylinder banks then you need a lot more help than your going to get from this thread. At least try reading "Turbocharging" by Hugh MacInnes. It will point you in the right direction. mobiuslogic 08-30-2003, 04:10 AM Not only are you not researching your stuff better Supa, but you're cutting corners on things that are important. Like exhaust. 400 isn't that much for an exhuast, and if you just go with a single 2.5" pipe and keep it to a single pipe, that'll save a lot of money. Also, unless you have a deal through ford for lifetime headgasket replacement, did you think at all about how you are going to keep your cylinder heads from either blowing the head gasket or punching holes in your hood? And how about engine internals? You *WILL* need to get forged internals. Cast is no problem for natural aspiration, but unless you want to burp a piston or 2 and put in an extra oil drain plug compliments of a connecting rod snapping, you will have to switch to forged pistons, crankshaft, and connecting rods. And finally, thanks to that nasty thing of detonation, you'll only be able to get 3 or 4 psi of boost. The 2 people that have Gen 3 SHO's that are turboed can only run 7 at the very most, and they have the 3.4L V8 SHO engine. You need to do everything *ELSE* then put the turbo in. Here's my list: forged internals, chip, CAI, BIGGER BRAKES!!! (you still have to stop), look into bolting up the manual tranny off a contour or escort or tempo (your auto will burn, I gaurantee it). You need to make custom exhaust headers to bolt to the turbo, and an exhuast to handle the output. Certainly higher ratio valve lifters, and stronger valve springs so you don't float the valve and backfire your upper intake manifold off. Also, a full port and polish of the MAF, upper/lower intake, and exhaust manifold is mandatory with that amount of airflow. First you have to prepare the engine for the turbo, then put the turbo on. Doing it the other way is pointless because your Vulcan will explode and you'll lose to granny in her 86 Buick. Also, check out Morana V6 Racing (http://www.moranav6racing.com). They'll have all the internal engine stuff, but that's just the engine. At the cheapest you're looking at 1000 for engine internals, 1000, for brakes, chip, exhaust fabrication, and maybe bolt a manual on with that, and 1000 for a turbo, BOV, and just the turbo plumbing and intercooler. Alright, I'm done flaming you, now go do you F***ing homework. -mobiuslogic Obviously I have. But turbo is a real possibility for me, I only have 27,500 miles, and being a flex fuel, ethanol has an octane of 105, which means a boost of 12psi. That'll b!tch slap any SHO back to gen 0. Peace. beyondloadedSE 08-31-2003, 11:57 PM Not only are you not researching your stuff better Supa, but you're cutting corners on things that are important. Like exhaust. 400 isn't that much for an exhuast, and if you just go with a single 2.5" pipe and keep it to a single pipe, that'll save a lot of money. Also, unless you have a deal through ford for lifetime headgasket replacement, did you think at all about how you are going to keep your cylinder heads from either blowing the head gasket or punching holes in your hood? And how about engine internals? You *WILL* need to get forged internals. Cast is no problem for natural aspiration, but unless you want to burp a piston or 2 and put in an extra oil drain plug compliments of a connecting rod snapping, you will have to switch to forged pistons, crankshaft, and connecting rods. And finally, thanks to that nasty thing of detonation, you'll only be able to get 3 or 4 psi of boost. The 2 people that have Gen 3 SHO's that are turboed can only run 7 at the very most, and they have the 3.4L V8 SHO engine. You need to do everything *ELSE* then put the turbo in. Here's my list: forged internals, chip, CAI, BIGGER BRAKES!!! (you still have to stop), look into bolting up the manual tranny off a contour or escort or tempo (your auto will burn, I gaurantee it). You need to make custom exhaust headers to bolt to the turbo, and an exhuast to handle the output. Certainly higher ratio valve lifters, and stronger valve springs so you don't float the valve and backfire your upper intake manifold off. Also, a full port and polish of the MAF, upper/lower intake, and exhaust manifold is mandatory with that amount of airflow. First you have to prepare the engine for the turbo, then put the turbo on. Doing it the other way is pointless because your Vulcan will explode and you'll lose to granny in her 86 Buick. Also, check out Morana V6 Racing (http://www.moranav6racing.com). They'll have all the internal engine stuff, but that's just the engine. At the cheapest you're looking at 1000 for engine internals, 1000, for brakes, chip, exhaust fabrication, and maybe bolt a manual on with that, and 1000 for a turbo, BOV, and just the turbo plumbing and intercooler. Alright, I'm done flaming you, now go do you F***ing homework. -mobiuslogic Obviously I have. But turbo is a real possibility for me, I only have 27,500 miles, and being a flex fuel, ethanol has an octane of 105, which means a boost of 12psi. That'll b!tch slap any SHO back to gen 0. Peace. I wouldnt say forged rods/pistons/crankshaft are neccessary....especially not the crankshaft. Perhaps, just get the crankshaft balanced. Your looking at about $3500 for a custom machined aluminum crankshaft anyway! :headshake The stock rods and pistons should be fine if your only running minimal amounts of boost. I would be concerned more about detonation than actually throwing a rod. We have a guy on the contour forums, running a 99 3.0L duratec with 10.3:1 compression with 9 psi without any problems on stock internals. With 5.5psi he was putting out about 350 hp and its holding up wonderfully. Im sure the vulcan compression is around 9.5:1 or so. I think youll be alright with running about 8-10 psi without a problem, properly tuned of course. Now, on to exhaust. $400 is cheap. If you wanna do it right, get some custom turbo manifolds and collector pipe made. Its not cheap, probably around $1000 or so, but its well worth it. I wouldnt cut any corners. And $240 for a turbo is dirt cheap! My T3/T4 is about $700! :tongue: Things that are a neccessity though is a custom burned chip, wastegate (not a deltagate), bigger injectors, bov, some sort of intercooler if possible whether its a air/air or water/air, etc. Also, the mtx-75 trans from the contour will not fit a vulcan engine. For pics of my car and 3.0L turbo contour, go here (http://fordcontour.org.whost1.atlantic.net/gallery/beyondloaded?page=1) . Dan_in_WA 09-01-2003, 02:44 AM i was told you can use a turbo from a desiel, any truth to this? I'd be REAL wary of doing this - a gas engine's exhaust is a helluva lot hotter than a diesel's. You might slag the turbine wheel. If you find a prospective turbo from a diesel, contact it's manufacturer and see if they'd recommend it for use on a gas engine. My info comes from www.eGarret.com Mediarocker543 07-30-2007, 03:41 AM Well, i'm just gettin sick of my incredibly slow 99 Taurus, i have a cold air intake, Bosche Platinum plugs and a custom exhaust on it, and i just barely beat a newer ford minivan in a Drag race!!!! currently i have plans to twin turbo charge my car, although it might not be the smartest thing to do with such a low power engine it seams like the only thing i can do. the engine only has 69000 miles so it still has plenty of life. Im still searching for two turbos, but since ford put a fricken oil filter right in the front middle of the engine :sly: it'll have to be kinda small to fit, i'm lookin' for turbos from a probe or eclipse or somethin' along that order, i'm goina custom fabricate the current manifolds to accept a turbo. the other issues i might run into are vacuum lines and routing pipes, but i'll figure it out :iceslolan Didnt think someone thought like me... I got 96' taurus GL and have been wanting to put turbos on it too. Havent really found anyone else cept when i came accross this post today. Anyway good luck with it. and when you get it done, would you mind telling me what i need to get to do it right? maybe we could start up some Turbo Taurus club. XD --Edit-- Didnt notice this was back in 03. damn. >> I just bumped a dead post. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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