Ford Focus WRC question


Seamus McRae
03-24-2019, 10:04 AM
G'day all

With respect to the '99 Focus WRC, was the red that M-Sport used around the back of the car fluoro as Hasegawa did with the decals in their Safari/RAC models or another shade of red like Tamiya did with their Monte Carlo kit? Or for that matter, did M-Sport change that red after the season started?

Cheers
Shaun

freakray
03-24-2019, 01:29 PM
It's an interesting question and open to some debate.

I personally lean towards it being fluorescent although some photos of the early season car make it look more like a bright red.

You have to take into account that colors can appear different in photos depending on equipment and lighting - I've found photos from the same rally where it looks bright red in one and is definitely fluorescent in another.

See example:
http://www.tenamp.com/real/mcrae-catalunya-costa-brava-99-01.jpg
https://www.ewrc-results.com/image/13382/

potsie
03-25-2019, 12:52 AM
I agree this is a difficult colour to get right, but most (if not all) video I have seen from the era show it as a more fluorescent red; like the Hasegawa decals. In most photos the red on the car appears to be the same hue as the red "dot" in the middle of the Martini logo. But, as freakray pointed out, these colours change depending on the quality of the photo.

stevenoble
03-25-2019, 01:31 PM
It was plain bright red on the monte carlo rally and went fluorescent orange from Sweden if I remember correctly. Tamiya MS 9 was a good match for it, but I don't think you can get it anymore. Built my Rally GB with Tamiya MS 9

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1645.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1647.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1641.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1642.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1639.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1633.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/stevenoble/Ford%20Focus/IMGP1636.jpg

rallymaster
03-25-2019, 07:26 PM
It has always been fluo red, same color as the one used on the 98 Peugeot 306 maxi, appearing like orange under bright light... but really being red !!
so many (die-cast) brands felt in the trap...
only different lights can make it appear different, but for sure it was red the whole season.
So building it with orange can be true if you suppose it was a pic taken under full bright light :lol:

Pedro F. Gouveia
03-26-2019, 07:38 AM
stevenoble is rigth
Monte Carlo it was red not fluo


It has always been fluo red, same color as the one used on the 98 Peugeot 306 maxi, appearing like orange under bright light... but really being red !!
so many (die-cast) brands felt in the trap...
only different lights can make it appear different, but for sure it was red the whole season.
So building it with orange can be true if you suppose it was a pic taken under full bright light :lol:

rallymaster
03-26-2019, 09:26 AM
stevenoble is rigth
Monte Carlo it was red not fluo

No, no, that's false :nono: :shakehead
it already was fluo red in Monte Carlo, but it's hard to get from pics... especially under a cloudy winter weather...

maybe this pic under in full light can help you to see the "orange look alike" already there in MC

I got the information from a reliable source, there has always been only one color, which is the same that the one used on the 306 maxi, appearing red or orange depending on the light.

Just find pics from later in the season and you'll see that it also appear red when no light (exactly like in MonteCarlo) when same car 2 stages later appear orange. :)

Seamus McRae
03-26-2019, 10:48 PM
Thanks gents. Appreciate the info

malscar
03-27-2019, 05:27 AM
Even the cars when they were first put in front of the media pre season were the fluro.

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