...that EVERYTHING that follows is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!

I was rushing home from work/school today, after leaving early. I had to hurry up and catch my apartment office before they closed...and pay my rent.

On the way home, I ended up at this light in the middle lane of a three-lane road. I see this big maroon car with a Nissan badge in the middle coming up to the light pretty quick. At first I thought it was the new Altima, since it looked real clean and shiny. As it pulled up to the light next to my driver's side, I realized it was a 2000-2003 Maxima. More than likely, it was a 2000-2001. Read on and you'll understand why.

I take off agressively from the light. Mind you, not to race or to instigate one, but because I was trying to pay my rent on time, I needed to hurry. The Maxima took-off somewhat agressively too. Since there was a car in my lane moving really slow ahead, I kinda stayed in second a tad bit longer than normal, and got ahead of the Maxima and got in his lane just to pass the slow car in my lane.

Anyhow, at the next light, it somehow ended up being me ahead of the Maxima at the light, with a 2000 and up Sentra SE in front of me (a Nissan Conga line, LOL).

When the light changed, it turns out the Sentra driver is the kind of driver I like to be behind of when I'm in a hurry...the kind that's in a hurry himself.

So, the SE, me, and the Max, all clear traffic pretty good. I go around the SE and the Maxima goes right behind me, and I see that he's starting to speed up pretty quickly. Just to mess with him, I speeded up too. I fully expected him to come flying past my right where he was. To my surprise, I didn't see him pass me. I figured, "nah"..."he just quit", but then, I see him go around some cars just to get next to me, a sure sign as any that he wanted to play.

To my dismay, we both stop at a red light together, with him two lanes over, at the head of the light like I was. Crap.

I wasn't sure if he was going to gun it at green, but I tensed myself to prepare to stomp on the gas if he did. I was so sure he'd walk me, but I figured I'd see just how close I could make it.

Turns out, REAL close.

The Maxima does gun it, and so did I. With me fully expecting him to walk ahead, I just sat there and banged the gears. I looked over to my right after the shift to second, and DANG! He WASN'T pulling!

It stayed EXACTLY EVEN up until 70MPH or so, right after a quick-shift to third, when it seemed like I started to pull ever so slightly ( :eek7: ). When he let-off at about 80MPH or so, my bumper was ahead of his by maybe a foot. WTF?

I guess I wasn't the only one shocked by this...dude pulled up to my passenger side as I got into the left-turn lane and he rolled his window down. I had to reach over and roll my window down (no power windows:(). He had this incredulous look on his face, and he asked: "What you got in there!?"( :eek7: ) Unfortunately, the green arrow for my lane, and the fact that there were cars waiting behind me, only allowed me to shout: "All stock man!"

As a disclaimer, I have had races where I didn't believe I was going to win, and DID win, and never posted them in here, not wanting to deal with flamers that might doubt me, but this one I just HAD to post, since I have always wondered how I would do against the big-brother Nissan (not THE biggest, of course, but big enough). Also, as I was looking at the driver, when I was expecting him to pull, it didn't seem like he was shifting, so definitely an auto.

All I can say is, the dude had had a priceless look on his face when he and I were side-by-side, and when he pulled-up next to me. He's probably used to smoking "better" (read: riced) cars than mine, and he couldn't believe this stock car was doing this...lol.

P.S. I must admit, I'm not completely stock...I have one "mod". My ignition timing has been advanced to 19 degrees from the stock 15. This "mod" has been proven time and again to drop mid 15-second SR20's to low 15's. Either way, I was surprised.

:bs:

dude, no way... that car would of soo ripped you a new one. You're just makin this shit up as you go.


You're soooo full of it man. Seriously, you're so full of shit your eyes are turning brown!






:lol: Just playing man, sounds like a fun run...



I know i know... I'm banned.

wow nice kill......was it a VQ 3.5 L maxima?....cuz j that case :eek:

NIce job! keep it it up, next thing you will be walking mustangs.......


















nah

Originally posted by RedNeck383


I know i know... I'm banned.

Just for you, Matt:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/375487BanMatty.JPG


:thefinger

SVT: You have nooo idea how funny that statement you just made is, considering...


...ask RedNeck or Self, they'll tell ya.

what does your car do in 1/4mi? estimate? 0-60?

also how reliable is your car? this sounds badass.

well nice kill. but i can only assume three things.

1: the MAX is a auto
2: the MAX wasn't broken in yet
or
3: it was a auto that wasn't broken in yet. lolz

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


Just for you, Matt:

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/375487BanMatty.JPG


:thefinger




OH you think you're so tough with your big 'BAN' button that you think you can scare me from telling the truth?

Go ahead, you can silence me but more will rise against you. You cannot stop us! HAHAHA!!!






:lol: Hahaha... nice responce there Arcie.

Originally posted by Neutrino
wow nice kill......was it a VQ 3.5 L maxima?....cuz j that case :eek:

I doubt that it was. Though it looked clean and new, it was probably new-er...as in about 2000-2001, equipped with a VG30 motor. I doubt I could hang like that with a VQ car...for now:devil:.

That means...that the car was probably broken in, TaT:thefinger, and I did say that it was an auto:thefinger.

mynismo: I've been researching this car since I got it. Stock times have gone as low as 15.2. 15-flat is achievable with an intake and the ignition-timing mod I mentioned. It's step-for-step, stock-for-stock, just as fast as the new Spec-V's.

ah ha~! now i see. it was a 3.0 alright, those aren't too fast. any 4 cylinder with decent power that is manuel can take it

I think he cheated....I think the other guy must have been talking on a cell phone....Or carrrnutt ran him off the road...You're a cheater!!! CHEATER..you used NAWWWWWZZZZZ..:lol:..j/k....Good run and congrats on the victory...I personally would have SPIT AT THE MAXIMA AND THEN DROVE OFF SINCE HE COULDN'T CATCH ME....but that's me...Nah, I doubt I would have spit at the maxima..If it was an accord I would have..Seeing as how I spit at all 99-01 2 door Accords...Damn them..

--edit--
TatII don't explain the reasoning for him beating the guy..HE WAS AMAZED..LET HIM BE AMAZED!!..:lol:...j/k there too

Nicely done:bigthumb:

And SVT...ASSUMING he's running a 15.2, he'll be hanging with or beating some of the 95ish GT/SVT owners over on the Corral...And you know I'm not lying. If you say I am, we can all take a forum fieldtrip the thecorral.net and check it out:icon16:

carrrnuttt, man u better not race so much or else yo engine is gonna BLOW!!!! but nice kill...i think, i didn really read it all:cwm27:

carnut races more than anyone i know

Originally posted by Silver_GTR34
carrrnuttt, man u better not race so much or else yo engine is gonna BLOW!!!!

No prob! Believe it or not, I have a one-year warranty (till May '04) on my car from the dealership I bought it from. That's my incentive to keep it stock. If the motor blows, I'll "hook-up" the dealership's shop with my friend's shop. He'll sell them another SR20 cheap...it may be DET, it may be VE;)...they'll buy it, install it, my friend tunes it;). HEHE.

Even then, if they happen to want an actual SR20DE to replace it, my friend can also get JDM SR20DE's that are more powerful than mine. Either way, I win:D.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


No prob! Believe it or not, I have a one-year warranty (till May '04) on my car from the dealership I bought it from. That's my incentive to keep it stock. If the motor blows, I'll "hook-up" the dealership's shop with my friend's shop. He'll sell them another SR20 cheap...it may be DET, it may be VE;)...they'll buy it, install it, my friend tunes it;). HEHE.

Even then, if they happen to want an actual SR20DE to replace it, my friend can also get JDM SR20DE's that are more powerful than mine. Either way, I win:D.


well you know what you must do...

Blow it the hell up!

Why don't you get a SR20DET from a bluebird AKA JDM Altima W/ AWD...And put your transmission on it..Or you could just buy one already assembled as such

maybe the max forgot to install 2 of the spark plugs on a change, i feel bad for that car:headshake

nice race...has there been a day inthe last month where u DIDN'T race something?

hey...atleast ur off ur rice binge...

Damn how I wish I was carrrnuttt :icesangel . Nice kill, ur making that se-r look like a sweet project car, and possibly a next car :bigthumb:

Originally posted by Shinez
Why don't you get a SR20DET from a bluebird AKA JDM Altima W/ AWD...And put your transmission on it..Or you could just buy one already assembled as such

That's the plan son, that's the plan;).

Either way, I'm waiting till after graduation next year. By then, my warranty should be over, and I won't have to worry about voiding anything.

That is...if the dealership hasn't replaced my motor themselves by then;)...(right Matt:icon16:?)

Originally posted by Self
Nicely done:bigthumb:

And SVT...ASSUMING he's running a 15.2, he'll be hanging with or beating some of the 95ish GT/SVT owners over on the Corral...And you know I'm not lying. If you say I am, we can all take a forum fieldtrip the thecorral.net and check it out:icon16:



Ah your lying. I spend more time on the corral then here, I follow the post and I know the times. Never seen a 94/95 cobra run that slow unless there was something wrong with the car. A 15.2 would put it into the same range as a stock 94-97 GT I find it funny that a car with only 130 hp is running low 15s, since the best any of the car mags could get was high 16-17s So, where is that hundred hp comming from? I dont beleive carrnuts car can run that fast, if he cares to take it to the track and post some timeslips, I will eat my words.

Alright alright, time for the maxima owner to step up. I don't doubt carrnutt's story at all, I just have a couple corrections to make. First of all, they stopped making the VG-30 when they came out with the 4th generation maxima, which was 1995. So all 3 liter maximas (like mine) from 1995-2001 are VQ-30 DE.

Quote from TatII: ah ha~! now i see. it was a 3.0 alright, those aren't too fast. any 4 cylinder with decent power that is manuel can take it.

Oh hell no, I KNOW you did-ent just say that. I rape most 4-cylinder manuals up the goat ass, S2000 notwithstanding.:biggrin2:

Originally posted by 94svt5.0


Ah your lying. I spend more time on the corral then here, I follow the post and I know the times. Never seen a 94/95 cobra run that slow unless there was something wrong with the car. A 15.2 would put it into the same range as a stock 94-97 GT I find it funny that a car with only 130 hp is running low 15s, since the best any of the car mags could get was high 16-17s So, where is that hundred hp comming from? I dont beleive carrnuts car can run that fast, if he cares to take it to the track and post some timeslips, I will eat my words.

I go to college AND work...I ain't going to no track for your whining ass. I'll go when I have the time, and when I feel like it.

Here's the stock stats on my car:

http://www.zotz.com/nissan/sentra_se-r_specs.htm

0-60 mph 7.4 sec
Quarter mile 15.8 sec @ 87 mph

You must remember, that time above is with a fully-optioned out SE-R, with the moonroof, power-everything, and ABS. My car only has cruise-control, power mirrors and no ABS, the lightest version(2400lbs).

NO FORCED INDUCTION IN ANY OF THESE:

Here's a classic SE-R run with bolt-ons:
http://www.se-r.net/owners/timeslip/display.php?ID=2097
1/4 Mile ET: 14.658
1/4 Mile MPH: 94.050

Here's a STOCK NX2000 run(same motor, slightly heavier):
http://www.se-r.net/owners/timeslip/display.php?ID=2121
1/4 Mile ET: 15.450
1/4 Mile MPH: 91.000

Another NX2000 run, this time with bolt-ons, weighing in at about 2775lbs, with driver.
http://www.se-r.net/owners/timeslip/display.php?ID=1237
1/8 Mile ET: 9.658
1/8 Mile MPH: 73.510
1/4 Mile ET: 14.970
1/4 Mile MPH: 91.790

/\Those are just the ones in the registry, there are better runs posted in the boards, you can search those on your own.

Here's the stock stats on a 1991 GT, which in your world, runs mid 14's. Both are magazine times, done in different conditions. We all know that magazine times can be improved, and they can also be worsened.

http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx

0-60: 7.3 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 15.6

For shits and giggles, here's a '95 GT:

http://car-stats.com/stats/showstats/showstatsgivenid.aspx

0-60: 6.5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 15.2

TaT, I stand corrected, I forgot they made VQ30's, LOL.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0




Ah your lying. I spend more time on the corral then here, I follow the post and I know the times. Never seen a 94/95 cobra run that slow unless there was something wrong with the car. A 15.2 would put it into the same range as a stock 94-97 GT I find it funny that a car with only 130 hp is running low 15s, since the best any of the car mags could get was high 16-17s So, where is that hundred hp comming from? I dont beleive carrnuts car can run that fast, if he cares to take it to the track and post some timeslips, I will eat my words.

I don't know about his car, that's why I said ASSUMING it runs that it would be right in league with both GTs AND SVTs of the 94-97 years. There are most certainly guys over there who have ran in the 15s in their stock Cobra. Granted it's not the norm at all, in fact it's highly unusual, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened on more than one occasion. Anyone can go over there and ask them, they won't lie about it. I've done it before. So how is it that other SVTs can run in the low 15s and you run in the low 14s? Where does that extra 100hp come from? Maybe from the same place his comes from?:rolleyes:

Originally posted by Self


I don't know about his car, that's why I said ASSUMING it runs that it would be right in league with both GTs AND SVTs of the 94-97 years. There are most certainly guys over there who have ran in the 15s in their stock Cobra. Granted it's not the norm at all, in fact it's highly unusual, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened on more than one occasion. Anyone can go over there and ask them, they won't lie about it. I've done it before. So how is it that other SVTs can run in the low 15s and you run in the low 14s? Where does that extra 100hp come from? Maybe from the same place his comes from?:rolleyes:


Uh ya of course people have run 15s in cobras, I ran a 20.15 in the 1/4, but I missed a shift and aborted the run. Really, this time you suprised me self, usually your post are mature.

Where does that extra 100hp come from? Maybe from the same place his comes from?


under the hood?:eek7:

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


I go to college AND work...I ain't going to no track for your whining ass. I'll go when I have the time, and when I feel like it.






hey dude whatever floats your boat. Its just the Car and Driver mag stats had it at a 16.1 in the 1/4 while your claiming a whole second difference. Wouldnt be the first time they screwed up times.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0





hey dude whatever floats your boat. Its just the Car and Driver mag stats had it at a 16.1 in the 1/4 while your claiming a whole second difference. Wouldnt be the first time they screwed up times.

And you've also claimed mid-14's and lower for Fox-body GTs...which C&D lists at 15.6. That's ALSO a whole second difference...

Originally posted by 94svt5.0

Uh ya of course people have run 15s in cobras, I ran a 20.15 in the 1/4, but I missed a shift and aborted the run. Really, this time you suprised me self, usually your post are mature.
Where does that extra 100hp come from? Maybe from the same place his comes from?
under the hood?:eek7:

I thought that was a very mature post I made earlier, actually:icesangel As always:smile:

Please don't quote car and driver,lol. They are ludicriuosly off on EVERYHING it seems. Like he said, they also quote the Mustang deep in the 15s...Defintely not the first(or probably last) time C&D has been wrong though.

As a Maxima owner, I find it totally believeable that you killed that car. Some of the auto 00-01 Max's will only run around mid to high 15's. Nice kill!

Originally posted by Bluebird from the
As a Maxima owner, I find it totally believeable that you killed that car. Some of the auto 00-01 Max's will only run around mid to high 15's. Nice kill!

Didn't "kill" him. Definitely "shocked" him, but didn't kill him:sunglasse.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


And you've also claimed mid-14's and lower for Fox-body GTs...which C&D lists at 15.6. That's ALSO a whole second difference...


And with bumped timming and a K&N they can pull high 13s, a friend of mine has done it a couple times in perfect conditions. Regardless, I agree with you about C&D . IM very impressed with your Se-R.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0



And with bumped timming and a K&N they can pull high 13s, a friend of mine has done it a couple times in perfect conditions. Regardless, I agree with you about C&D . IM very impressed with your Se-R.


:eek7: :22yikes:

Did I just read what I thought I read? *Reads it again*

Yes I did!

:sly:

You trying to give me a heart attack??

:icon16:

Originally posted by carrrnuttt



:eek7: :22yikes:

Did I just read what I thought I read? *Reads it again*

Yes I did!

:sly:

You trying to give me a heart attack??

:icon16:



yep, Guess it didnt work though. How about this " I love civics they are my friend" Any chest pain yet?

Ok so what does a stock Max run :confused: ? According to Bluebird the auto Maximas run mid 15s? And you bumped the T/A on your Sentra so it now runs low 15s, right? Seems reasonable to me... Nice kill. :)















I'll still smoke you though :tongue:

Originally posted by DkShadow

I'll still smoke you though :tongue:

So? :thefinger

Give me 2-grand, on top of my 1,800-dollar car, and I can GUARANTEE you low 13's, if not high 12's.

Want proof?














Give me the money and I'll prove it...

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


So? :thefinger

Give me 2-grand, on top of my 1,800-dollar car, and I can GUARANTEE you low 13's, if not high 12's.

Want proof?














Give me the money and I'll prove it...
smokey mc 30 thousand dollar mustang. :thefinger

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


No prob! Believe it or not, I have a one-year warranty (till May '04) on my car from the dealership I bought it from. That's my incentive to keep it stock. If the motor blows, I'll "hook-up" the dealership's shop with my friend's shop. He'll sell them another SR20 cheap...it may be DET, it may be VE;)...they'll buy it, install it, my friend tunes it;). HEHE.

Even then, if they happen to want an actual SR20DE to replace it, my friend can also get JDM SR20DE's that are more powerful than mine. Either way, I win:D.
They make SR20VEs? I thought only SR16VEs!! Those engines kick ass if you can find anything N/A that'll race it. I race Turbo's with it and kick some ass so I dunno... But I also get my ass handed to me to..

Originally posted by n15m0

They make SR20VEs? I thought only SR16VEs!! Those engines kick ass if you can find anything N/A that'll race it. I race Turbo's with it and kick some ass so I dunno... But I also get my ass handed to me to..

The "V" motors:

(V-variable valves)

N/A
SR16VE - 173HP/119TQ
SR16VE N1 - 197HP/134TQ
SR20VE - 187HP(CVT)/145TQ
SR20VE - 204HP/148TQ

Turbo
SR20VET - 276/228TQ

That's a nice Pulsar you got, man.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


The "V" motors:

(V-variable valves)

N/A
SR16VE - 173HP/119TQ
SR16VE N1 - 197HP/134TQ
SR20VE - 187HP(CVT)/145TQ
SR20VE - 204HP/148TQ

Turbo
SR20VET - 276/228TQ

That's a nice Pulsar you got, man.

Thanx brotha man.... I had a brain fart. It was like 4 am so you know how that is... Once again I'm kinda new to the Nissan thing... I thought it was SR20DET, or is that a Japanese thing?

Originally posted by n15m0


Thanx brotha man.... I had a brain fart. It was like 4 am so you know how that is... Once again I'm kinda new to the Nissan thing... I thought it was SR20DET, or is that a Japanese thing?

The "D" stands for the DOHC motors with no variable-timing.

I have an SR20DE.