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2016 Group Build- Road & Track!


MPWR
11-29-2015, 07:46 PM
It's been a while since we've done a group build here. Anyone up for one?

There have been many, many kits over the years that manufacturers have released in street and racing versions of the same car. Since I tend to like both, I often buy both versions- and I'm sure I'm not the only one that does this. :grinno: Just in my stash, I have:

Audi Quattro street and rally
Mini Cooper street and rally
Subaru Impreza WRX and WRC
BMW E36 318 street and BTCC
BMW M1 street and Procar
BMW M635CSi and 635CSi Gr. A
Ferrari F40 Stradale and Competizione

...and I could probably go on. Got any yourself? Porsche 911s and McLaren F1s and Skylines and Corvettes and....

My idea is this- Road & Track. Build a matched pair of a car, in street and racing forms.
Suggested Guidelines:
-Starts end of 2015
-Ends end of 2016
-Real road car
-Real race car, that competed in a real sanctioned event
-If you already have one of a pair completed, then you only need to build the other one: but at least one should be substantially built and completed in 2016
-When we're all done (end of next year), everyone will submit a pic of your two builds nose to nose, and we will put them in a gallery thread.
-If you want to do more than one pair, bring it!
-Contest with voting and prizes if we feel like it

In?

griffin-gt40
11-29-2015, 10:21 PM
I'm in. I tried this exact thing a couple years ago on another forum, no one seemed interested. But, like you, I often like/love the road and track versions of the same cars. I'm all for the "must of competed in a sanctioned event" for the track version, but often, there are beautiful cars done for the street that never get a "track" version. I'd say "ghost" racers should be allowed but they have to look like a race car, slapping some racing decals on the street version and slick tires shouldn't count., As an example of one that could count, is Veyron's Ferrari 619 GTR (think it was the 619) he did a few years back.

Just what I think, but its your idea so you can make the rules. Either way I'm in.

David

lovegt40
11-30-2015, 05:53 AM
would love to be in, but I absolutely cannot respect deadline for 2016. have currently 18 models in progress, part of theme are cooperations of payd models. :(

blubaja
11-30-2015, 07:04 AM
Yes!! I was planning on making the M1 street and racer! Sign me up.

ZoomZoomMX-5
11-30-2015, 09:51 AM
I'm in; my club ACME has had that theme before at our Southern Nationals NNL, and it's always been popular.

MPWR
11-30-2015, 11:36 AM
I'd say "ghost" racers should be allowed but they have to look like a race car, slapping some racing decals on the street version and slick tires shouldn't count.

Just what I think, but its your idea so you can make the rules. Either way I'm in.



They are guidelines, not necessarily rules. If converting a road kit into a plausible phantom racer is a builder's thing, there's no reason they need be excluded. But there is such a vast array of OOB kits that have been released in street and racing versions that it seems easy and fun to pick a favorite and not to bother with conversions. At least that's what I'm doing. :rolleyes:

Paolo, you're welcome to build along as your schedule allows. We will plan to do a 'victory lap' thread the end of next year for everyone to show off their builds- but that thread won't close. You can still join the parade even if you finish a bit late. :smooch:

griffin-gt40
11-30-2015, 12:04 PM
For me, the reason I'd like the include "phantom racers" is, I've got my Flying Lizard's Porsche 918 GT1 build as well as a stock 918 both of which are on pause as I wait for extras to arrive, so I'd be doing those kits for an R/T build.

David

da_ashman
11-30-2015, 05:28 PM
Im IN!! So many ideas, Better check the stash (& the bank account...)

Ash

ChristopheB
11-30-2015, 09:11 PM
Good idea, I will try to participate if I can since I have the models in my stack. I sadly have already too many projects on the go...

88Porsche944
11-30-2015, 09:29 PM
Will try as well.

Trevor

koooba
12-01-2015, 12:14 PM
That sounds interesting.

I am new here and nowhere near as good as most of you as a modeller, but I am currently building multiple Peugeot 205 T16s and I'd like to do a road version (the Grp.B homologation series that is) as well. So count me in, if you want. :cool:

MidMazar
12-01-2015, 11:17 PM
Might give me a kick in the ass to start building again.....which a lot of modellers need right about now.

ferrariscale
12-02-2015, 04:51 AM
well..im a definite newbie ..just started my first build, Ferrari F40 (street stock)from Tamiya.If it keeps me motivated id love to be in.

F1-Fan
12-02-2015, 06:03 PM
This GB is interesting. My problem is that I only have race cars. It would be a very good excuse for me to build my only rally car, the Tamiya Mini Cooper Monte Carlo Rally.

I need to think a little more about it.

What if instead of someone to build two models, we make a team of two builders, one builder would tackle the street version and the other one the racing version?

F1-fan

modellmaker.
12-03-2015, 02:23 PM
Sorry, no time.
I'm building a BMW i8 right now, I'm converting it into a DTM race car.
It's a lot of work.

My deadline is december 2016.

modellmaker.

hirofkd
12-04-2015, 07:00 PM
I think the phantom racers belong to its own category/theme. That said, it's not exactly practical to do another group build for just that because they are related to R&T, so maybe we can go for R & T + P for 2016?
That way, we can cover both the technical aspect of recreating real cars and the artistic side of coming up with unique, creative model.

MPWR
12-05-2015, 07:48 PM
Again, fictitious race cars won't be excluded if thats what a builder really wants to do. For that matter, if you really want to do a fictitious road car based on an LMP or the like, that's probably fine too. But I don't see a need to include it as a theme.

Honestly, the goal here is not to encourage more creative building. It is simply to encourage more building. Anyone is welcome to make it as complicated as they enjoy for themselves- and I am sure that some of us will embrace just that. Go as wild as you want. But this is one where all one has to do to fully participate is build two out of the box kits- and I want to encourage anyone and everyone to do just that. And then, build two more.

The theme here is MORE. A fun, inclusive opportunity to build MORE.

MPWR
12-05-2015, 08:17 PM
Might give me a kick in the ass to start building again.....which a lot of modellers need right about now.

This is exactly what we're going for here. :grinyes: :naughty:


What if instead of someone to build two models, we make a team of two builders, one builder would tackle the street version and the other one the racing version?


Sure- it may take some creativity or photoshop to make the pic work, but do it! A group build-group build. :tongue:

ales
12-06-2015, 02:36 PM
I'd like to give it a go! :)

Veyron
12-06-2015, 06:14 PM
I'd like to give it a go! :)

:icon16:

gionc
12-10-2015, 07:37 AM
Sorry for the delay my dear amiccco!!!!!!

I'm for sure IN!!!!
TBH I have a kenmary GTR just with the primer on the body so it's almost.... unstarted, and I'm pretty sure to own here or there a RB26DETT in racing specs.... yes I think so...

Well for future possible delays in communications you have the email address :D

ciao dear
gio

MPWR
12-10-2015, 07:41 AM
Terrific!! :p

Now see if you can wake up Stevenski! :evillol:

gionc
12-10-2015, 07:45 AM
STEEEEV

I lost your phone number in the last +- 10cel phones I changed until our last phone call...... Did you still own the number Andy?

gionc
12-10-2015, 07:48 AM
Andy are you sure you're ready to get troubles again with my famous English-Ita?

gionc
12-10-2015, 07:54 AM
Thinking well I would be interested in the opposite of your guideline :D, or start from a race car to convert in a road car:

think: a trackday Mini, built exactly like a old, patinated, vintage car, restored in street narrow specs (in the style of Wheeler Dealers and... I know I'm not tall like Ed China...) and eventually...... in long wooden Countryman shape....

I'm pulling the guidelines too much? :D

MPWR
12-10-2015, 08:16 PM
Andy are you sure you're ready to get troubles again with my famous English-Ita?

Caroline and Gabbi can translate again, we'll be fine. :biggrin:

Did you still own the number Andy?

I can only find his email. :headshake

I'm pulling the guidelines too much?

Don't make me ban you. :icon16:

But seriously, I think I know someone who is making a transkit for the original countryman, using the Tamiya Mini- will have to see if he is selling it yet.

ZoomZoomMX-5
12-10-2015, 11:17 PM
I think I know someone who is making a transkit for the original countryman, using the Tamiya Mini- will have to see if he is selling it yet.

B-42 from Replicas & Miniatures of MD. It's out, it's in their November '15 catalog. $55.00

MPWR
12-11-2015, 07:03 AM
That's it! I saw the test cast a few months back, it looked great.

gionc
12-11-2015, 09:29 AM
This is an awesome news!!!!!!
Can someone point me in a working link about the countriman transkit? I can't find around, I would like to purchase it immediatrly.... :D

ZoomZoomMX-5
12-11-2015, 12:49 PM
This is an awesome news!!!!!!
Can someone point me in a working link about the countriman transkit? I can't find around, I would like to purchase it immediatrly.... :D

They do not have a website! You must mail order. You might be able to contact him via email to save time.

Kit # B-24 Mini Countryman

Replicas & Miniatures of Maryland
Norman F. Veber
317 Roosevelt Avenue S.W.
Glen Burnie, MD 21061

replmincomd@aol.com
410-768-3648 9AM-5PM EST

gtziaf
12-11-2015, 01:01 PM
Nice idea. I try to participate. My time is under alert last months, but hove die last!

MPWR
12-11-2015, 02:20 PM
This is an awesome news!!!!!!
Can someone point me in a working link about the countriman transkit? I can't find around, I would like to purchase it immediatrly.... :D

I will get one for you and send it to you. Norm is 10 min from my office, I fly over him all the time. :rolleyes:

gionc
12-11-2015, 02:27 PM
They do not have a website! You must mail order. You might be able to contact him via email to save time.

Kit # B-24 Mini Countryman

Replicas & Miniatures of Maryland
Norman F. Veber
317 Roosevelt Avenue S.W.
Glen Burnie, MD 21061

replmincomd@aol.com
410-768-3648 9AM-5PM EST

Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!

gionc
12-11-2015, 02:32 PM
I will get one for you and send it to you. Norm is 10 min from my office, I fly over him all the time. :rolleyes:

Yes I I think at those fox.... and maryland... two words I heard in the past :D i imagined you re' not far!

Andy let me try to contact this gentleman, I wouldn't like to give you troubles, if I get a feedback I'll purchase from him, if I got troubles I'll ask your help!!!!

BTW Countryman is ever been in my modeling priorities/dreams, we discussed in past about minis, but I have another opportunity... and it's quite in the street/racing style.... Ok let's the business go and we'll see!!!

But I'm even more excited!!!!!

eugene78
12-18-2015, 01:18 PM
Hmm... I haven't been checking AF too frequently this year (nor have I been building models), but I started a new kit a while ago with the intention of actually finishing it, and I do like this group build idea. These two look nice on the shelf, even despite the difference in body proportions:
https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/15585/25873748.28/0_b99be_b96b08ca_orig
I'll try to join with a couple of E36 kits this time.

KC27
12-19-2015, 03:18 AM
Yeah sounds good, count me in.

KC

gionc
12-19-2015, 11:52 AM
Eugene's idea with the 635 is awesome! Didn't tought at it!

malscar
12-23-2015, 04:51 AM
I'm in. now I need to pull my finger out to finish the three on the table first then to make a choice. The Lancia or the Mustang. :smokin:

MPWR
01-03-2016, 11:07 AM
All right guys- the new year is here, and we're on!

Looking forward to seeing your builds!

willimo
01-06-2016, 06:24 PM
At first I wasn't really into this since I build almost exclusively street cars.

But the new Civic coming from Beemax/Aoshima may be a kit I buy two of...

Or since the rules are stretched a little, a Super GT NSX could be matched with the real but fake Mugen NSX RR....

viperofoz
01-11-2016, 06:05 AM
I'm liking this theme, here's what I plan to build... who knows, I might even finish them :grinyes:

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12417945_10205440916123924_7227290688938188111_n.j pg?oh=64f855ce4f475769ac77502cdc655845&oe=5700B459

Regards, Dan

da_ashman
01-17-2016, 05:46 PM
Great Choice Viperofoz!!!

Heres my 2!

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s258/da_ashman/McLaren%20F1s%20Road%20-%20Track%20Build/IMG_9366.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s258/da_ashman/McLaren%20F1s%20Road%20-%20Track%20Build/McLaren-F1.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s258/da_ashman/McLaren%20F1s%20Road%20-%20Track%20Build/1997_McLaren_F1GTRLongTail-0-2048.jpg

Yes you mightve noticed that both are Racing car kits, I'm going to use the Gulf Short-tail kit as a basis for my F1LM, I was going to get Fujimis F1LM until I noticed the only difference between the race car & LM is the decal sheet... which the racecar comes with most of them anyway....

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s258/da_ashman/McLaren%20F1s%20Road%20-%20Track%20Build/IMG_9367.jpg

Both kits will get a bit of extra detail & carbon love. the Fujimi F1LM needs a bit of TLC in the accuracy stakes which i'll try to correct. Downside for both kits is that you can build either open or closed doors, not sure if I'll have both open, 1 open or glue shut yet. Hope to have some progress soon.

MPWR
01-17-2016, 06:10 PM
Great choices!! :thumbsup: I was hoping someone would do F1s. Honestly I would do them myself- but I really want to do an F1 in the Fina/BMW works scheme, and I haven't been able to find the kit (or even just the decals). :disappoin

Viperofoz, the Murci also is a very cool option- looking forward to seeing them.

But the new Civic coming from Beemax/Aoshima may be a kit I buy two of...

I can relate all to well. If Beemax releases their BMW E30 M3 kit in the next few months...!

ales
01-20-2016, 01:32 PM
This is what I (we?) are planning to do - will probably split this one with another member on here and a local builder with me building the race version.

Unfortunately it bothers me that S27 got the colour of the text on at least one of the decals wrong and with a couple of decals for the interior not there I suppose I'll need to get some custom ones made up. What's the best place for that in Europe, guys?

Cheers,
Alex

Niro750
01-20-2016, 01:37 PM
What a great idea... I'm just starting my 3rd and 4th cars ever and guest what, by pure chance it's 2 Renault 5 turbos one rally one Road. The rally one is going to be the Marlboro version. I'm very slow at building so this suits me 100%

rallymaster
01-20-2016, 04:07 PM
Are RWB Porsches considered as road or track cars...?! they are both !! :lol:

griffin-gt40
01-20-2016, 04:45 PM
This is what I (we?) are planning to do - will probably split this one with another member on here and a local builder with me building the race version.

Unfortunately it bothers me that S27 got the colour of the text on at least one of the decals wrong and with a couple of decals for the interior not there I suppose I'll need to get some custom ones made up. What's the best place for that in Europe, guys?

Cheers,
Alex

Alex,

Note sure about Europe, but there's a guy in the US that does decals. I just ordered a custom set of him, but I'd imagine he can do a reprint of scan if you can do that part and correct the colours. Might be worth the email to see what the cost would be like.

Email Jeff at http://www.firebirddesigns.net/

Hope this helps.

David

griffin-gt40
01-20-2016, 04:48 PM
I'm in. I'll be doing the Porsche 918's I have. One "street" being the Weissach package and the other being my "phantom" Flying lizards 918 GT LM. All my stuff has arrived for them so I can start sorting out the build later this week. I'll post up a pic later on, but for now I'm going to bed to try and beat this flu bug I got.

David

koooba
01-21-2016, 11:29 AM
What a great idea... I'm just starting my 3rd and 4th cars ever and guest what, by pure chance it's 2 Renault 5 turbos one rally one Road. The rally one is going to be the Marlboro version. I'm very slow at building so this suits me 100%

that's fantastic - as I am working on a bunch of Peugeot 205 Turbo 16's :)

MPWR
01-27-2016, 11:03 AM
I have my first build completed!! :p

BMW 318i (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1145451)

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb112/andrejmiller/318-043.jpg

It will get paired with this:

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb112/andrejmiller/IMG_4785.jpg

It will be a month or two before the weather is suitable for painting so that I can start it- but that leaves me some time to find a match for the Listerene blue/green body color. :rolleyes:

Martini Man
12-28-2016, 08:10 PM
so is this happening?

koooba
12-31-2016, 11:20 AM
I failed. :tongue: (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1149552)

MPWR
01-02-2017, 08:00 PM
so is this happening?

That's a good question....

We don't seem to have had a lot of action on it. (I have to admit, I didn't start the second build of my two- I spent the year working on builds already in progress.) I do still think it's a cool idea- I'd love to see it as a group project.

Thoughts/opinions/options/ideas?

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