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is there a point? really?DragnWRX 06-29-2003, 08:04 PM hey plzz post...........Is there even a point to getting a tib i mean that look phat n all but can u get any power wut so ever or should i just stay with a go kart? i mean shit if i had the cash im willing to swap out the engine with somethin nice kuz it looks so nice but i need some power im tired of getting raged on by all the lil honda b!tches...........I WANT A SLEEPER Bad_Tuscani 07-02-2003, 12:35 AM If you own a Tib, and your losing to Honduhs, then it's either A: You have an automatic, or B: You can't drive a stick. 180driftking 07-02-2003, 08:10 AM I actually love my tiburon, i've beatin alot of cars including monte carlos, mustangs and hondas, and ive only done simple upgrades. but does anybody know if the tien shockacho's (suspension) are any good, cause i plan on getting them and dont really know if its worth the $1,600. Akisan2 07-02-2003, 04:15 PM Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani If you own a Tib, and your losing to Honduhs, then it's either A: You have an automatic, or B: You can't drive a stick. If hyundai can call honda honduhs, automotuve world is doomed. Say honda drivers, since Honda as a car company is far superior. Civics are meant to be econony cars and the drivers who doesn't have enough money put in kits and intakes are the blame. Tib isn't the worst thing is the world, but I find hyundai owners who tends to flame honda cause of its dumb drivers I found hilarious. when you make a car that's better then NSX, start flaming Honda, but that will never happen, so can you please stop and flame the drivers, not the actual car company. Bad_Tuscani 07-02-2003, 08:23 PM Originally posted by Akisan2 If hyundai can call honda honduhs, automotuve world is doomed. Say honda drivers, since Honda as a car company is far superior. Civics are meant to be econony cars and the drivers who doesn't have enough money put in kits and intakes are the blame. Tib isn't the worst thing is the world, but I find hyundai owners who tends to flame honda cause of its dumb drivers I found hilarious. when you make a car that's better then NSX, start flaming Honda, but that will never happen, so can you please stop and flame the drivers, not the actual car company. HHHHmmmmm......last time i checked, was in the Dallas sunday paper, and it mentioned something by some company, J.D. Powers (whoever that is) which stated that as of 2003 Hyundai has tied with honda for the number 2 slot, with toyota still in #1.......but hey, what does J.D. know?? Check it out .USA Today: Hyundai ties Honda for #2 in reliability and quality (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm) Since i've had my tiburon, I have yet to lose to any Honda I've raced. I'm not sure how much HP I have, since i haven't dynoed it, but i do know from experience that i stay neck and neck with the new GT Mustangs from light to light, and i burn them in the 60ft and take off, which i think is damn good for an I4 2.0L 4cyl. I've hated Honduh even b4 i owned my tiburon. I also currently own a 1987 300ZX Turbo, with a sponsership thru K&N, which runs the 1/4 in 12.86 sec @ 131mph (traction issues, but thats what happens when your pushing 536HP out of a 3.0L V6 with the car only waying 2700lbs after weight reduction), and still, even with my times shoe polished allover my car, and sponsership stickers( i currently have 2 speed shops in TX backing me also), i would still have honda's trying to race me on the street. I will say one thing about honda OWNERS (i hope i haven't offended any of them)......they do lose gracefully. I hope i haven't offended anyone, or come across as flaming, just the main thing that erks me is every1 trying to say that honda is soooo superior, have of which, haven't even tried out the NEW hyundai's since the company's now been taken over by people who give a damn about quality and reliability.......oh yeah, and uh, where's honda's 10yr 100,000 mile warranty? Akisan2 07-03-2003, 12:07 AM you think i haven't heard all that? As a company SALES, hyundai ain't too shabby. I know that and I awknowledge that. You realize that Honda=Acura and Honda as a company is treated here different then Acura. No way in HELL can acura be tied with hyundai for quality. Honda also produces Motorcyles, ATVs, F1 cars, electric wheelchairs, lawnmowers.....in the world not just in Korea. They are the first hand innovaters in clean car technology. And no matter what kind od those "www" or hard facts you bring in, Honda's technology and passion for the quality car will no be beaten. I have yet to see any car that is engineered like NSX that can produce such specs with mere c32b v6 motor that poduces only 280bhp. Wheres hyundai's Hydrogen powered car? Humanoid robots? Does hyundai's car use the least gasoline possible in gasoline fueled car? Where's world's best LEV or NGV for your almighty hyundai? Best yet, I have yet to see Any AWD or RWD stock production cars that produce above 200bhp or more here in US. Hyundai has yet to make anything that seems impressive. The day hyundai makes such a great chasis for mass production car that can compete against EVO, STI, ATESA and make such an engine to accompany such technology, then I'll shut up and give hyundai props. So I guess not in at least 20 years. Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani Since i've had my tiburon, I have yet to lose to any Honda I've raced. I'm not sure how much HP I have, since i haven't dynoed it, but i do know from experience that i stay neck and neck with the new GT Mustangs from light to light, and i burn them in the 60ft and take off, which i think is damn good for an I4 2.0L 4cyl. :screwy: Hell----o TIB V6 2.7-Liter, V6, 24-Valve, DOHC, MPFI Engine, Front/Transverse Mounted With Horsepower Of 170@6000, Torque Of 181@4000, Aluminum Block and Cylinder Head TIB I4 2.0-Liter, I4, 16-Valve, DOHC, MPFI Engine, Front/Transverse Mounted With Horsepower Of 134@6000, Torque Of 132@4500, Cast Iron Cylinder Block and Aluminum Head Stang GT 4.6-Liter, 16-Valve, 90-Degree V8, SOHC, SEFI Engine, Front/Longitudinal Mounted With Horsepower Of 260@5250, Torque Of 302@4000, Cast Iron Block, Cast Aluminum Cylinder Heads Hmm lets do some simple math You aid you have i4? 134bhp vs. 260bhp, 260 torque vs. divide that by half.... oh sorry I forgot your intake and exhaust and your bored throttle. intake give or take 5-7 bhp assume you get good set up, exhaust anywher from 3-10 bhp, TB not too sure, but mainly high end power. Well no rocket scientist is needed for this. Next time race something like RSX, Type S, TSX, hell NSX to see if dumb Honduh is that crappy. Stop racing stupid ricer boy in civic or old integra. The GT You gotta post pics, Dyno, timeslip cause you're one of those typical "I beat !@$!%^ in my tib! u'all Haters'" as for the warrenty, I do not know. And not much I can say excpet it is a good sounding warrenty. But how come I haven't seen much NEW tib in here at all?(I live in OR) I saw 350Z more then new tib. If they are so great and cheap, why aren't people riding them? What hyundai needs to do is come up with a unique technology like VTEC, NSX like honda, Rotery for Mazda, Evo for Mitsu, Supra for Toyota....American companies like Chevy got corvette, Dodge got Viper... Hyundai got no Flagship cars. Hey as for sales and all, Hyundai sain't shabby like I said. I see this won't last unless Hyundai realizes that company needs something unique rather then copy the trend of the auto market. I ain't going to shut down everything, so I know Hyundai can make a difference. But not until you get some intelligent marketing and innovative technology that sets your foot solid in the automotive world, you guys are still floating without a destination. Redrunner 07-03-2003, 12:37 AM ok hmmm I will give Tiburon a little respect my friend has a 1996 FX and ran a 15.2 at track he clams it is stock but we know thats a lie Anyway can you name one car other then the tiburon that honda made the is worth talking about I mean look at the 1993 Scoupe Turbo wit a respective 16.3 ( and the turbo did what to this car):loser: and then why would you but a tiburon up next to a DX or EX or CX what about placing it next to a SIRor SIR2 or SI I mean really Hyundai is worst then ford Like I said before they should add truck heaters to their car so when you push it in the winter your hands will be warm:dogpile: Teabagger Vance 07-03-2003, 12:42 AM I mean really Hyundai is worst then ford There's nothing wrong with Ford at all..... Redrunner 07-03-2003, 12:45 AM hmmm thats what you think I type what i think lets not start that import vs Ford shit here to TY oh and you should read the forum about the guy in the GSR racing the mustang and the mustang wheel coming off and hitting the guys window its a good one Redrunner 07-03-2003, 01:00 AM 10yr 100,000 mile warranty hmmm... why would they give you that lets think maybe they know their car is shitty and because they get the parts for the car out of a lucky charms box it is easy to give you that 10yr 100,000 mile warranty But when it is all gone LOL have fun with your v8 cobra killer :dogpile: Bad_Tuscani 07-03-2003, 01:48 AM Well, i see the only people here that disagree seem to be honda and mazda owners. i kinda expected feedback from some tiburon owners. You non-hyundai/tiburon drivers gotta have atleast some intrest in the tiburon, or else you wouldn't be on a tiburon board. If i was bashing on honda's quality, then why would i say the tiburon TIED with them??. I haven't raced an NSX, so i can still honestly say i haven't lost to a honda yet. I've raced old civics, new civics, Si's NO SIR's, accords, all of which have had all or most of the usual mods ie; intake, exhuast, headers, cams yada yada. I wasn't comparing the tiburon to the NSX in any way.....look at the price difference. For UNDER $20,000 several companies/magazines have rated the 2003 tiburon as the best sports coupe. Compared as 4 cyl. the I4's that are 5 speeds are quicker than the civic stock and have more torque. The civics I've raced have had a 1.6L or 1.8L the I4 tiburons have a 2.0L. I don't know how the civics shift, or the mazda's. When racing my shifts are from 1-2nd @35mph, 2-3rd @ 70mph, 3-4th @ 100, and 4-5th @ 130. I've taken it up to 145mph, but the Z3 i was racing finally shut down, and i beat him by about a car length. We raced on the highway, from a 65 mph roll and i pulled on him the whole time. I've never even driven a honda so i don't know what they're capable of, but i do know the ones i've raced, i've beat. Akisan2 07-03-2003, 02:29 AM I just came here and post since there are many hyundai owners that seems to be "lost" about their cars. $ is factor about the cars I agree,Nsx is very pricy car. But honda has far superior technology and that's what my point is about. Hyundai cannot make a car as good as NSX with the same budget. I get kinda irritated when I see company that dones not have half of the technology and innovation as Honda bashing at them(Well not actualy hyundai, but many owners of hyundai). Civics are great economy cars but not really a racer car unless you have serious $. Civics aren't originally meant to be a SPORTS compact car, but an economical car, like that of elantra. And NO I WILL RATHER LICK A TOILET THEN OWN A HYUNDAI. I do not have .0000001% of interest about actually owning any hyundai. I do admit, that tibby is a decent car for $ I never doubted or challenged that. I just rather much pay extra to own a honda then Hyundai. Hyundai simply gives many serious car enthusiasts bad impressions.(But in reality, I'd buy nissan.) Hyundai isn't really known to be "Fast." They are "sorta" trying but it is just another economical-compact sports coupe with very cheap components piled up to run under very poorly designed V6. But like I said, Hyundai isn't off the market or complete crap....well close. They do have future and that they do have chance to shine. But I see no strength from Hyundai as a car company in the future. That's what I am trying to say. DkShadow 07-03-2003, 02:48 PM Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani I've hated Honduh even b4 i owned my tiburon. I also currently own a 1987 300ZX Turbo, with a sponsership thru K&N, which runs the 1/4 in 12.86 sec @ 131mph (traction issues, but thats what happens when your pushing 536HP out of a 3.0L V6 with the car only waying 2700lbs after weight reduction), and still, even with my times shoe polished allover my car, and sponsership stickers( i currently have 2 speed shops in TX backing me also), i would still have honda's trying to race me on the street. I will say one thing about honda OWNERS (i hope i haven't offended any of them)......they do lose gracefully. :confused: 500 horses and you can only muster a high 12? :disappoin Not tryin to flame but you suck at the shifting and its time to swap in an auto. :p Whats with the trap speed? Thats 10/11s trap speed :dunno: Now I mean really Hyundai is worst then ford Yet its still faster than your POS. :headshake Redrunner 07-03-2003, 03:09 PM LOL I would hope so I mean my car is stock for one and not a race car plus if I had a v8 and something It better do something other then drink gas DkShadow 07-03-2003, 03:28 PM Originally posted by Redrunner plus if I had a v8 and something It better do something other then drink gas 300mi on full tank is not too shabby considering 4.10s... also not to forget that LS1s/LS6s make 26mpg+ :wink: Bad_Tuscani 07-03-2003, 03:43 PM Originally posted by DkShadow 500 horses and you can only muster a high 12? Not tryin to flame but you suck at the shifting and its time to swap in an auto. Whats with the trap speed? Thats 10/11s trap speed Now Like I said "TRACTION ISSUES".....and i already have an automatic in it. I know i'm not the world's greatest driver, and the fact that i'm on normal street tires MIGHT have something to do with it.......hhhmmmmm. It's has a shift kit....5 speed auto with primary and secondary overdrive. I've tried shifting through the gears, and i've tried leaving it in drive and mashing it....only a lil bit'o difference in times. Either way, i burn my tires for a good 300-400FT......funny, even in an auto i get a 4th gear scratch :dunno: (In reference to my 300ZX, NOT my tib) DkShadow 07-03-2003, 04:05 PM Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani Like I said "TRACTION ISSUES".....and i already have an automatic in it. I know i'm not the world's greatest driver, and the fact that i'm on normal street tires MIGHT have something to do with it.......hhhmmmmm. It's has a shift kit....5 speed auto with primary and secondary overdrive. I've tried shifting through the gears, and i've tried leaving it in drive and mashing it....only a lil bit'o difference in times. Either way, i burn my tires for a good 300-400FT......funny, even in an auto i get a 4th gear scratch :dunno: (In reference to my 300ZX, NOT my tib) Try putting a set of DRs or slicks on the back and keep it out of OD... 3rd gear. im sure you know how to flash your converter so im not going to tell you about that. ;) :) KamiKaze Accord 07-04-2003, 03:17 PM Hyundai is a budget car company, based for people who dont have a lot of money, but want a new car with SOME speed. I am highly doubting your I4 beat a Z3 or stang. Also, i want to know what kind of Accords youve raced. Id looooove to race you. V6 6-spd coupe. You wouldn't stand a chance, unless youre fantasy kill stories have truth to them. Bad_Tuscani 07-04-2003, 05:24 PM Originally posted by KamiKaze Accord Hyundai is a budget car company, based for people who dont have a lot of money, but want a new car with SOME speed. I am highly doubting your I4 beat a Z3 or stang. Also, i want to know what kind of Accords youve raced. Id looooove to race you. V6 6-spd coupe. You wouldn't stand a chance, unless youre fantasy kill stories have truth to them. I've raced one newer accord on the highway. I don't know what year model it was or if it was an auto/manual, but it had stock dual exhuast. From a 60mph roll, i pulled on him untill 90mph then we pretty much stayed the same distance apart 1-1 1/2 carlengths ahead of him untill we shut down around 115mph(i didn't pull anymore, and he didn't gain anymore). ALSO.....i never said i beat a new GT stang in a full fledged race....i said i beat him on the take off, and the 60ft., then he caught me, and we stayed even. It was a Mustang GT "bullet" or "billet" i have no clue what that is. Thats the only one i've ever seen so i don't know it power ratings etc. ALSO, my profile doesn't list all my mods, just some of them. Like a magician says, it's always good to leave a little mystery. All i'll say is that i don't have pussy juice (NOS). There's lots of things you can do to a tiburon. Hell, I've seen a 10sec. Tib that was AWD that had 2 engines one in front one in back and both were turbocharged. OH, and get this, it ran 10's on street tires AND it was an automatic. It's rare that you see a 600+hp tiburon, but they do exsist. Bring yourself to Ft. Hood, TX. The MP's allow 1 legal street-race night a month, then we can see how your Accord fares...you might beat me, you might not, but the whole point of racing is to have fun and watch fast cars go fast isn't it? Like i said i haven't lost to a Honda yet, but there's always some1 somewhere faster....i just ain't met'em yet. And the Z3 i raced got royally spanked. He was an older man 40-50yrs old, and he was amazed that i beat him. We pulled over at a gas station and BS'd a bit, about cars, and the military (i'm active and he's retired). He couldn't believe it was a hyundai, but most people can't either. Oh well, i'm sure ya'll think i'm full of psychobabble, but thats cool, this board is for conversating, and debating, so i guess we're fulfilling it's purpose. I enjoy every1's feed back even if you do call B.S. i know the truth and thats all that matters, but like i said, a lil friendly debating is fun. My wife and I are just settling into a new house, and once we see how much money we have to play with after bills, i'll try to invest in a digital camera to help quench your thirst for some valid proof. Akisan2 07-04-2003, 11:03 PM Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani There's lots of things you can do to a tiburon. Hell, I've seen a 10sec. Tib that was AWD that had 2 engines one in front one in back and both were turbocharged. OH, and get this, it ran 10's on street tires AND it was an automatic. It's rare that you see a 600+hp tiburon, but they do exsist. You just dug urself a hole man. So hyundai needs 2 engines WITH TURBO that uses JET FUEL to run about 600bhp. :spit: I saw that car on a compact sport magazine and I just laughed. ANYONE can do that with 2 engines with turbo if you have $. That's cheating especially if its not running on gasoline. I find this hilarious. 600BHP is your average modded supra:bloated: on ONE ENGINE and ONE TURBO that uses GASOLINE on STOCK automatic. Hell Why don't we put 2 JZ engines and run like 1300bhp on gasoline, oh wait maybe you can get it close to 1000bhp with a single engine supra so maybe we don't need that. It's cool discussing these things with you since you are being somewhat mature compare to that chrometib, but I am kinda disappointed in that reply. :sly: PowerCrazy 07-05-2003, 12:28 PM i can settle all this right now, i have a tib and my friend does too, i've only done minor work, but he's gone all out...... the car is $19,000 stock and i'll take a brand new mustang GT as an opposition, $24,500 stock. Now let's see, with the difference in price if spent that on upgrades the tib will murder the mustang. Oh and on a 1.1 mile track, a stock tib runs only 1.5 secs slower than a $56,000 porsche boxster, and let's not go to the new Z06 so we don't embarace any die hard chevy people ( and this was done by Autoweek, im not bullshiting). And that's stock, my friends tib however is not so stock. He's spent $8500 on his car ($1,000 on accesories). So you're up to a total of $27,500 car. But..... he dropped the wieght to 2670 lbs. and the horsepower is now to 415, tourque is now 390, oh but wait i forgot, if you'd like to race him on the freeway there's a nice little double shot from NOS sittin in the trunk that will leave you looking for your balls when it knocks the horespower up to 615 hp........ so i would like anybody to find me a car that's $27,500 that will beat that. You won't. You won't find a $40,000 car that'll beat that. So in conclusion....... TIBURON'S RULE Bad_Tuscani 07-05-2003, 01:24 PM Finally!! There's another Tib owner surfing this TIBURON board. It's nice to know that some1 that actually knows what i'm talkin' about is here to vouch. What all has your friend done as far as weight reduction?? I taken out the spare and jack(of course), complete back seat and seat belt mechanisms, trunk lining and side panelling, carpeting......pretty much everything i guess. The whole ass-end is bare from the front seats back on the inside. I have no idea how much weight i've stripped out though. Funny how people get pissed so easily knowing their $20,000+ sports car can fall to a Hyundai. Even funnier when u pull up next to them and see their face as you prove it to them :biggrin: Bad_Tuscani 07-05-2003, 01:48 PM Originally posted by Akisan2 You just dug urself a hole man. So hyundai needs 2 engines WITH TURBO that uses JET FUEL to run about 600bhp. :spit: I saw that car on a compact sport magazine and I just laughed. ANYONE can do that with 2 engines with turbo if you have $. That's cheating especially if its not running on gasoline. I find this hilarious. 600BHP is your average modded supra:bloated: on ONE ENGINE and ONE TURBO that uses GASOLINE on STOCK automatic. Hell Why don't we put 2 JZ engines and run like 1300bhp on gasoline, oh wait maybe you can get it close to 1000bhp with a single engine supra so maybe we don't need that. It's cool discussing these things with you since you are being somewhat mature compare to that chrometib, but I am kinda disappointed in that reply. :sly: I think the Supra's V6 is a lil bit bigger than a 2.0L I4 Beta 4cyl. which is what the 10 sec tib was running with. Add the other, and you've only got 4.0L. What do the mustang GT's have?? Or the Corvettes?? So, in essence, with only 4.0L it's running 10's.....still faster than a 5.0, 4.6, 5.7.....well just about all the V8's.....and probably for about the same price. Just out of curiosity, because i honestly don't know, How much HP does a supra need to put it in the 10sec bracket? I was just stating something you can do to a Tib. How long has Supra been around?? Since the 80's, so of course, there's gonna be a much larger market as far as aftermarket mods in production, and alot more time for people to study the engines find out which mods work better than others trial and error etc. etc. The Tib has only been around for a lil while, and is still pretty much "new" to the aftermarket. Espeacially the 2003. Give the Tib a few more years, let people learn how to properly tune mod etc. Korean engineering, and then we can go from there. The supra (and all these other companies besides toyota) and other "sports cars/compacts" have been out for a minimum of 10 yrs......thats a large head start for tuning and trial & error. For how long the Tib's been out, I think people are doing damn good at workin with what they have. Redrunner 07-05-2003, 01:51 PM wow thats great :thefinger DkShadow 07-05-2003, 02:15 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy i can settle all this right now, i have a tib and my friend does too, i've only done minor work, but he's gone all out...... the car is $19,000 stock and i'll take a brand new mustang GT as an opposition, $24,500 stock. Now let's see, with the difference in price if spent that on upgrades the tib will murder the mustang. Oh and on a 1.1 mile track, a stock tib runs only 1.5 secs slower than a $56,000 porsche boxster, and let's not go to the new Z06 so we don't embarace any die hard chevy people ( and this was done by Autoweek, im not bullshiting). And that's stock, my friends tib however is not so stock. He's spent $8500 on his car ($1,000 on accesories). So you're up to a total of $27,500 car. But..... he dropped the wieght to 2670 lbs. and the horsepower is now to 415, tourque is now 390, oh but wait i forgot, if you'd like to race him on the freeway there's a nice little double shot from NOS sittin in the trunk that will leave you looking for your balls when it knocks the horespower up to 615 hp........ so i would like anybody to find me a car that's $27,500 that will beat that. You won't. You won't find a $40,000 car that'll beat that. So in conclusion....... TIBURON'S RULE Well, lets see. IF, big if, there were still some LS1s Camaros out there... You could have bought a hardtop, no optioned Z28 for $20-$21k- the rate these cars were selling the dealers were practically giving them away, preferably an auto for consistency. Thats already 300+ to the ground (340-360flywheel) Do a little weight reduction, Buy H/C, headers, midpipe and exhaust, dont forget Torque Converter and gears... all this for $28,000 and youre speaking of a serious street/track monster that can run mid to high tens, no juice, no turbo/supercharge, all balls. Now for the Mustang. Buy an 03. You can get one out the door for $20k-$21 also with the cash-back deal, mines a fully optioned GT and got it for $23k with no special offers. Bring the race weight to 3200lbs or lower. Invest in a Turbo, and buy all the little bolt ons and minor things you can think of. Taking in mind that youd do the install yourself... youll have a 400+rwhp/500+rwtq Mustang for yet again... $28000. So i still see your friend losing... but then again im speaking "What-Ifs" :dunno: Also, 1.5 secs is a long time... dont try to play it off like its nothing in a race. Youd be surprise how much a 3 tenths lead could fk you up at the track/strip. DkShadow 07-05-2003, 02:23 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy .Oh and on a 1.1 mile track, a stock tib runs only 1.5 secs slower than a $56,000 porsche boxster, and let's not go to the new Z06 so we don't embarace any die hard chevy people ( and this was done by Autoweek, im not bullshiting). :spit: Did i just read that right? I looked at your quote again... and... are you actually trying to say that a Tiburon could outhandle and flat out give the Z06 its own ass at the track?? PLEASE!!! Please tell me youre kidding,... right??? :eek7: :sly: :eek7: Redrunner 07-05-2003, 02:40 PM wow man I am glad you dont drive a Honda. You are making your self look really bad right now. Damn Hondas may just get a break after this guy :dogpile: DkShadow 07-05-2003, 02:51 PM Originally posted by Redrunner wow man I am glad you dont drive a Honda. You are making your self look really bad right now. Damn Hondas may just get a break after this guy :dogpile: http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/ups/sicdeth/headscratch.gif them right?:sly: PowerCrazy 07-05-2003, 03:12 PM are you people really that dumb!?!?!?!? cmon, gimme a break, you people don't know what the hell you're talking about. Take it from somebody who races, has driven all these cars, and who knows a hell of a lot more than any of you. I know what im talking about, you don't! :thefinger DkShadow 07-05-2003, 03:20 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy are you people really that dumb!?!?!?!? cmon, gimme a break, you people don't know what the hell you're talking about. Take it from somebody who races, has driven all these cars, and who knows a hell of a lot more than any of you. I know what im talking about, you don't! :thefinger I wouldnt be the one calling others dumb, especially when you think a Tib could actually stand a chance at beating a Z06 at the track :bloated: PowerCrazy 07-05-2003, 03:23 PM alright retard, i don't think i know, because it was in an edition of autoweek like i said before... unless you're illiterate too and can't read. im not just pullin this out of my ass, it's true...... also, you people don't realize that i never said it would spank the Z06, all i said was that it beat it. DkShadow 07-05-2003, 03:37 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy alright retard, i don't think i know, because it was in an edition of autoweek like i said before... unless you're illiterate too and can't read. im not just pullin this out of my ass, it's true...... also, you people don't realize that i never said it would spank the Z06, all i said was that it beat it. Ok then... Give me the link to where i can see the 'almighty' Tib beating the Z06. I seriously have to see that shit because the Z06 was built with performance in mind, while the Tib was made for... I dont even know why the fuck it was made. Its a POS :bloated: Tercel GTS 07-05-2003, 03:44 PM y'all didn't mention Toyota's hp ratings, look up a Caldina GT-T :iceslolan 2.0L 3S-GTE 260ps @ 6200 RPM 33kg Torque @ 4400 Rpm 9.0:1 Compression 86mmx86mm bore vs stroke Redrunner 07-05-2003, 04:19 PM hey I want to see you beat a z06 lol plz after that beat you can take down a viper too yep yep I see it now your car push 400psi got 5000 shots of N20 and your big wing man I wish I had it like that so I can beat zo6 and viper and other fast shit that there is no way in hell you are going to beat I have to tell the Hondas to come here so we can see the great Tiburon Man Hyundai has really come up in the racing world better then their Scoupe turbo Now that was fast 16.5 stock shit man Hyundai turbos are great and their cars are so fast :cwm27: Redrunner 07-05-2003, 04:25 PM can somebody tell me what GT means I mean hyundai makes GTs and was thinkin GT means its a like faster but all the Hyundai GTs run like 17.1 17.5 and I can pull that out of my stock civic so and it is dx Maybe DX in Honda world is GT is Hyundai world hmmmm. I wonder DkShadow 07-05-2003, 04:53 PM Alright PowerCrazy, set me straight here.... What the fuck does your friend have to put him in the 415hp range and then jumping to 615hp on NAAAWWWSSS? What does he run? Mods? Cause im calling bullshit on that too! Dont get me wrong... money sure buys speed... but that alone wont make me think your friend has that. PowerCrazy 07-05-2003, 05:06 PM alright, this is what i know he has, i think he may have done some work since this...... throttle body, cold air intake, k&n filter, custom headers and exhaust system, upgraded pistons, turbo charger, computer chip, ignition system, upgraded camshaft, intercooler, and upgraded manifolds. I think soon he's gonna change it to a twin turbo which I think ITS turbo is coming out with. The nitrous is a 200hp shot from a NOS big shot two stage. Along with all this the body has been extensivly lightened, and like i said, most of the stuff is custom because of lack of real quality aftermarket parts for the new tibs. He has connections in some of the companies that make certain parts and he gets stuff custom fabricated. And the last I knew he had it just over 400hp, but that was also before some more little tweaks he did with the timing and all that so it might be higher but only maybe 5-10 more, not much at all. But that's that, and im sure if you live in the area he'd be more than happy to show you the car and then the rear end as he hauls ass away from you if you'd like. DkShadow 07-05-2003, 05:10 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy alright, this is what i know he has, i think he may have done some work since this...... throttle body, cold air intake, k&n filter, custom headers and exhaust system, upgraded pistons, turbo charger, computer chip, ignition system, upgraded camshaft, intercooler, and upgraded manifolds. I think soon he's gonna change it to a twin turbo which I think ITS turbo is coming out with. The nitrous is a 200hp shot from a NOS big shot two stage. Along with all this the body has been extensivly lightened, and like i said, most of the stuff is custom because of lack of real quality aftermarket parts for the new tibs. He has connections in some of the companies that make certain parts and he gets stuff custom fabricated. And the last I knew he had it just over 400hp, but that was also before some more little tweaks he did with the timing and all that so it might be higher but only maybe 5-10 more, not much at all. But that's that, and im sure if you live in the area he'd be more than happy to show you the car and then the rear end as he hauls ass away from you if you'd like. headers...? Hmm.. what does he run? PowerCrazy 07-05-2003, 05:41 PM run in terms of what? Ringo 07-06-2003, 11:33 AM The Tiburon is just another ricer crap car. Just like the Civic. Tib owners, don't you think its time to get a real car? instead of being the laughing stock of the sport driving community? Using a front drive car for drag racing...stupid. PowerCrazy 07-06-2003, 11:40 AM okay, first off you drive a 1990 ford taurus..... you have no room to talk, but secondly when you can't go and buy a $58,000 corvette or a $30,000 mustang you have to go to the sport compact scene for a fast car, and the new tiburon is the new kid on the block that is predicted and is already killing the compitition. Ringo 07-06-2003, 12:25 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy okay, first off you drive a 1990 ford taurus..... you have no room to talk, but secondly when you can't go and buy a $58,000 corvette or a $30,000 mustang you have to go to the sport compact scene for a fast car, and the new tiburon is the new kid on the block that is predicted and is already killing the compitition. :bigthumb: smart response man, in reality I find the Tiburon really refreshing, and stylish. Murco 07-06-2003, 02:40 PM Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani HHHHmmmmm......last time i checked, was in the Dallas sunday paper, and it mentioned something by some company, J.D. Powers (whoever that is) which stated that as of 2003 Hyundai has tied with honda for the number 2 slot, with toyota still in #1.......but hey, what does J.D. know?? Check it out .USA Today: Hyundai ties Honda for #2 in reliability and quality (http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-03-11-cr-picks_x.htm) JD Powers rates INTITIAL quality - "Did it break as you pulled it off the dealers lot?" Check the "love affair" after a few thousand miles!! Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani I also currently own a 1987 300ZX Turbo, with a sponsership thru K&N, which runs the 1/4 in 12.86 sec @ 131mph (traction issues, but thats what happens when your pushing 536HP out of a 3.0L V6 with the car only waying 2700lbs after weight reduction), and still, even with my times shoe polished allover my car, and sponsership stickers( i currently have 2 speed shops in TX backing me also), i would still have honda's trying to race me on the street. I will say one thing about honda OWNERS (i hope i haven't offended any of them)......they do lose gracefully. OK, you're either lying or you are the worst driver EVER! My Camaro runs 11.45 @ 125 in the quarter. It weights 3400 pounds, makes 520 hp, has a Corvette IRS in back and a T-56 manual. I have very little traction for the first 100' and only pull 125. You run roughly 20 hp more, an automatic, 700 less pounds, and only run 12.86?! :bs: Let's look at one other aspect.... K&N and 2 other speed shops are sponsoring this? Who's leg are you trying to hump? Ringo 07-06-2003, 02:54 PM Originally posted by Murco OK, you're either lying or you are the worst driver EVER! My Camaro runs 11.45 @ 125 in the quarter. It weights 3400 pounds, makes 520 hp, has a Corvette IRS in back and a T-56 manual. I have very little traction for the first 100' and only pull 125. You run roughly 20 hp more, an automatic, 700 less pounds, and only run 12.86?! :bs: Let's look at one other aspect.... K&N and 2 other speed shops are sponsoring this? Who's leg are you trying to hump? If your precious Camaro is so great, how come they ain't makin it no more, hillbilly? /\/imbus 07-06-2003, 03:10 PM i dont know much about the tib or the civic standard models, but the tib is on the world rally championship, and it hauls ass there so i say tibs kick ass PowerCrazy 07-06-2003, 03:48 PM camaros weren't bad, especially the ones from the late 80's.... BUT WHO THE HELL BUYS A CAMARO FOR PERFORMANCE....... WITH A V6!!!!!!!!!!!! you've got to be kidding me, a V6 in a camaro is rediculous, it's a chick car... real men get the V8. Then you wouldn't have to bitch about track times, with a few mods you'd hit 11.0 sec and below quarters. Murco 07-06-2003, 08:25 PM Originally posted by Ringo If your precious Camaro is so great, how come they ain't makin it no more, hillbilly? Chevy didn't build MY Camaro... They only provided a canvas for my work. If Chevy HAD built MY Camaro they would still be building it! Being questioned by someone who drives a 1990 Taurus LX.... What has AF become?! Ringo :loser: :banhim: DkShadow 07-06-2003, 08:26 PM Originally posted by Ringo If your precious Camaro is so great, how come they ain't makin it no more, hillbilly? Just because a car doesnt sell doesnt mean its a pos. Look at the ugly ass Aztek... it outsold firebirds. Now are you going to be driving an ASStek or saying how great the damn car is because it outsold them? Ringo 07-07-2003, 12:18 PM Originally posted by Murco Chevy didn't build MY Camaro... They only provided a canvas for my work. If Chevy HAD built MY Camaro they would still be building it! Being questioned by someone who drives a 1990 Taurus LX.... What has AF become?! Ringo :loser: :banhim: Ban me for asking a question? have you forgotten about my American rights? Akisan2 07-07-2003, 09:28 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy camaros weren't bad, especially the ones from the late 80's.... BUT WHO THE HELL BUYS A CAMARO FOR PERFORMANCE....... WITH A V6!!!!!!!!!!!! you've got to be kidding me, a V6 in a camaro is rediculous, it's a chick car... real men get the V8. Then you wouldn't have to bitch about track times, with a few mods you'd hit 11.0 sec and below quarters. Like ur tib's v6 is any better:eek7: Tib's V6 is one of the worst engineered v6. I've seen... Quite poorly engineered, hence the price PowerCrazy 07-07-2003, 10:15 PM that maybe, but then why are the new tibs kicking most of the cars in it's class's ass... it's not always the engine, it also has to do with how everything is put together, in the case of a camaro that car was put together to hold the V8, then they put in a V6 to make it cheaper, the tib on the other hand is an upgrade to a V6, hence it's tuned for a V6 PLUS..... i've already done all the projecting and for a couple thousand i'll be runnin up around 400hp and then a nitrous shot that will add anywhere between 100 and 200hp depending on how i set it up. and with that i'll be competing with the big boys..... base corvette, camaro SS, and so on, and competing damn well. not to metion that i would murder anyone in my class. even slightly modified tibs haul major ass, do your homework, and even with no mods on it right now i'll kick you and your mx6's ass. The new engines for the tib are being looked at as the next skyline engine in terms of the power that's able to be unlocked. So my guess at 400hp may be an undershot by a lot. NSX 07-07-2003, 10:35 PM Originally posted by Akisan2 Like ur tib's v6 is any better:eek7: Tib's V6 is one of the worst engineered v6. I've seen... Quite poorly engineered, hence the price NSX V6 all the way!!! hahaa But seriously; I think Hyundais are going to be really good one day; they seemed really determined. Ford is cool too! More mechanical problems than imports, but maybe b/c they make so much power. lol Akisan2 07-07-2003, 10:43 PM [QUOTE]Originally posted by PowerCrazy that maybe, but then why are the new tibs kicking most of the cars in it's class's ass... it's not always the engine, it also has to do with how everything is put together, in the case of a camaro that car was put together to hold the V8, then they put in a V6 to make it cheaper, the tib on the other hand is an upgrade to a V6, hence it's tuned for a V6 PLUS..... i've already done all the projecting and for a couple thousand i'll be runnin up around 400hp and then a nitrous shot that will add anywhere between 100 and 200hp depending on how i set it up. and with that i'll be competing with the big boys..... base corvette, camaro SS, and so on, and competing damn well. not to metion that i would murder anyone in my class. even slightly modified tibs haul major ass, do your homework, and even with no mods on it right now i'll kick you and your mx6's ass. The new engines for the tib are being looked at as the next skyline engine in terms of the power that's able to be unlocked. So my guess at 400hp may be an undershot by a lot. [/QUOTE my mx6 is j-spec v6 engineered in 1993 that produces 200bhp...klze v6. Now ur car is 2003 and produces 170bhp. Wow 10 years behind. And you try to compare this to a porche. Please, tib is not a bad car. But Like I say, you guys need time to even try to compare the STOCK cars to porche, BMW... Sure, it;s cheap and you can mod it, but as stock it is just really a crappy car and that's what I am trying to say if anyone is listening...:sly: PowerCrazy 07-07-2003, 10:49 PM when did i say i was comparing my car to a porsche, let alone a stock tib.... that i know i would get my ass kicked, i said my class, which last time i checked consisted of little p.o.s. civics and suck crap, it didn't include any porsche's unless you wanna go into the 924, 944, and 914.... but those cars to tell the truth aren't incredibly fast ... my brother has a 944 and has had a 914 but we haven't raced so i don't know what would happen with a lower end porsche, but the new ones are too fast even when i've got it tuned. Akisan2 07-07-2003, 10:50 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy The new engines for the tib are being looked at as the next skyline engine in terms of the power that's able to be unlocked. So my guess at 400hp may be an undershot by a lot. :spit: I didn't read all the way. OMFG ya try. This is the funniest crap I heard in my life. Don't even think you can get there with that crappy engineering. RB series went through so much tme and tuning to get it was then now it is going to be VQ series after a BIG change that nissan took alot of pride in. Keep on dreaming, cause you'd think all the japanese cars have tried to make cars like skyline and try to compete. I dun see any since day 1 the skyline ALSI model has been produced at 1957. Unbelievable:eek7: Akisan2 07-07-2003, 10:56 PM Look Hyundai as of now does not have much to offer as a STOCK car. Civics are originally meant to be an economical cars. If you think "HYUNDAI" is great, not just tib, go compare like S2000 and ur tib stock. I dun care about mod cause anyone can do it. That's why its cheap. It's all steel chasis, crap interior, crap engine. But then you can mod it. That's the benefit of tib. As a company, It really got no engineering skills compare to the other car companies. Until then, have fun trying to convince that Hyundai is a good company as a whole PowerCrazy 07-07-2003, 10:59 PM i never was saying that hyundai was good as a whole, and your example of civic and s2000 is the same thing, crap car and good car... what are you frickin on man!? you keep seeming to think im writing something completely different than what i am and you obviously aren't that intelligent, so im done dealing with with your dumb ass. Akisan2 07-08-2003, 12:49 AM Originally posted by PowerCrazy i never was saying that hyundai was good as a whole, and your example of civic and s2000 is the same thing, crap car and good car... what are you frickin on man!? you keep seeming to think im writing something completely different than what i am and you obviously aren't that intelligent, so im done dealing with with your dumb ass. simply puit Hyndai has no match to honda as a company or any other car companies. Civics are more well engineered compare that of elantra. No such thing as cheap AND better. Hyundai cars are cheap for reason. Civic is NOT crap. I'm trying to tell you that Hyundai has no technology or innovation of, lets say, Honda since all you tib drivers wants to flame Honda. Just read my previous point when I reply to bad-tuscani. As you saying civic is crap, it is not. Ricers are crap. As for everyday transportation, I'd take civic any day over cheap elantra. I keep on comparing cause you tib drivers like to compare. like boxster, BMW...That's what I find funny and I am trying to tell you that you are out of your place trying to compare Hyundai cars in general to european cars. Basically: Tib owners like you are too full of yourself, your car, and your car company. So My point:IMHO, Hyundai sucks, has no unique technology or innovative ideas so stop flaming such accomplished compay as Porche, BMW, Honda, Nissan.....Until Hyundai accomplishes something great like those companies. There's one thing though. Hyundai does have good place in WRC. I do give some props to the WRC cars. They keep it up and they might be able to come up with something in the future. That I'd admit. They do great. And ya don't deal with me cause unlike that of bad-tuscani, you're really immature. And I don't wanna deal with your kind. I had too many to deal with already. DkShadow 07-08-2003, 04:02 AM :eek7: Holy Crap PowerBoss... tell your friend to get a magazine to host his car [Probably HCI, since they feature crappy cars;)]!! I knew I left some things out when i last posted. Ok so your friend has 615 horses... on a car that weighs 2670? Do you know how freakishly fast that is? By God, your friend is beating that Tib with the TWO Goddamn engines and AWD. And youre going to follow in his footsteps... Damn you two freaks will be the fastest Tibs in the nation... Seriously. 2670 plus 600 horses... equals 9secs.... :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Youll literally fly yourself out of existence Powerboss!!!:eek7: :eek7: :eek7: :lol: Sorry, but I had to :cwm27: Bob Oralee 07-14-2003, 05:24 PM I like how ppl compare hand built supercar $90,000 NSX's with $19,000 tiburon thats hilarious:loser: Bob Oralee 07-15-2003, 04:59 PM [QUOTE]Originally posted by Akisan2 [B]you think i haven't heard all that? As a company SALES, hyundai ain't too shabby. I know that and I awknowledge that. Stang GT 4.6-Liter, 16-Valve, 90-Degree V8, SOHC, SEFI Engine, Front/Longitudinal Mounted With Horsepower Of 260@5250, Torque Of 302@4000, Cast Iron Block, Cast Aluminum Cylinder Heads What hyundai needs to do is come up with a unique technology like VTEC, NSX like honda, Rotery for Mazda, Evo for Mitsu, Supra for Toyota....American companies like Chevy got corvette, Dodge got Viper... Hyundai got no Flagship cars. __________________________ stang gt has 260 hp and runs 15.00 or 14.9 in 1/4 mile and a stock tiburon has 170 hp and runs 15.4 in 1/4 mile:sly: WTF is up with that? By the way in europe hyundai has a variable valve timing engine called CVVt and will be here with in a year or so. DkShadow 07-15-2003, 08:59 PM stang gt has 260 hp and runs 15.00 or 14.9 in 1/4 mile and a stock tiburon has 170 hp and runs 15.4 in 1/4 mile:sly: WTF is up with that? By the way in europe hyundai has a variable valve timing engine called CVVt and will be here with in a year or so. [/B] Dude where the fuck have you been? Are you stupid to believe those shitty MotorTrend/CarNDriver and whatever else shitty magazines? They ran LS1s at 13.9s.... NEWS FLASH!!!! "THEY CANT DRIVE A CAR WORTH OF SHIT!!!" A decent driver can run a STOCK Mustang GT to 14.0-2... Theres some people that have hit 13s BONE STOCK! Not to mention... Bring down the raceweight(32-3300), slicks, drag setup, and given YOU can launch the damn thing and know your shift points... You have a 12 second Mustang GT with ONLY 245-265RWHP!!!! Get out of magazine racing and hit the strip where REALITY is! :bloated: Bob Oralee 07-17-2003, 02:05 AM Originally posted by DkShadow Dude where the fuck have you been? Are you stupid to believe those shitty MotorTrend/CarNDriver and whatever else shitty magazines? They ran LS1s at 13.9s.... NEWS FLASH!!!! "THEY CANT DRIVE A CAR WORTH OF SHIT!!!" A decent driver can run a STOCK Mustang GT to 14.0-2... Theres some people that have hit 13s BONE STOCK! Not to mention... Bring down the raceweight(32-3300), slicks, drag setup, and given YOU can launch the damn thing and know your shift points... You have a 12 second Mustang GT with ONLY 245-265RWHP!!!! Get out of magazine racing and hit the strip where REALITY is! :bloated: Those are professional drivers that put those numbers up. They wouldn't publish the magine and have millions of people read them if they were false.:biggrin2: DkShadow 07-17-2003, 02:23 AM Originally posted by Bob Oralee Those are professional drivers that put those numbers up. They wouldn't publish the magine and have millions of people read them if they were false.:biggrin2: Professional? I personally dont believe theyre times... Its also somewhat contradicts itself... CnD or some magazine got 15.1 in the 1/4 with their GT... Motortrend ran a 14.0 with their 5spd Mustang GT... I run 14.4 with a bonestock auto GT. Even MM&FF ran their bone stock Mustang GT to a 13.8. Motortrend, i believe, also ran an LS1 f-body and barely broke out of the 14s. (13.9) Im sure you know that LS1s run very low 13s, even some breaking into the 12s (MM&FF, a mustang magazine, ran their bone stock 99 Z28 to a 12 second pass). So ill keep on believe real world numbers instead of magazines :smile: Besides theyre not all that good of a driver (dragging that is) They dont powershit, they dont try to lower psi to launch, etc. Also on a side-note... Motortrend tends to BS a little. I wont get into it since ive already said it many times across this board,.. but their review of the Mach 1 Mustang was so full of BS. The things they said about it wasnt even true. SwaveDave 07-17-2003, 05:19 PM You folks need to reread the DG's rules that you agreed to ; namely, that there would be no use of the sort of language you are currently using. Expletives are not to be used in here, plus...they are offensive to people who know the difference between right from wrong , they are completely unnecessary, they show the immaturity of the user, and they show the aggresive uncontrolled nature of the verbal abuser. In a civil world....it is WRONG to use language like that. So stop it immediatley please, find out how to talk properly, or..buzz off to a DG that doesnt care about profanity and the like. Thank you and as always...have a nice day. DkShadow 07-17-2003, 06:33 PM :wtf: PowerCrazy 07-17-2003, 07:16 PM i agree, what the hell was all that about :gives: if they've got such a problem with it don't come in here..... plus i like the fact that it was their first post, like he came onto the forums just to play mom. If he's so much of a pansy that a few bad words will offend him, first leave here and then go grow some balls Bob Oralee 07-20-2003, 07:49 PM fuck that. I think ppl need to use obsenities to get the point across. sorry dad if I you are affended by my fuckin obsenities:thefinger LjasonL 07-28-2003, 10:13 PM Originally posted by Bad_Tuscani Since i've had my tiburon, I have yet to lose to any Honda I've raced. I'm not sure how much HP I have, since i haven't dynoed it, but i do know from experience that i stay neck and neck with the new GT Mustangs from light to light, and i burn them in the 60ft and take off, which i think is damn good for an I4 2.0L 4cyl. Dude you've lost your marbles if you think a 4 cylinder Tiburon with intake and exhaust can hang with a Mustang GT. The reason you're "burning" them in the 60ft is because they're not racing you, then they see you take off and give it a little gas and catch you. LjasonL 07-28-2003, 10:14 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy alright, this is what i know he has, i think he may have done some work since this...... throttle body, cold air intake, k&n filter, custom headers and exhaust system, upgraded pistons, turbo charger, computer chip, ignition system, upgraded camshaft, intercooler, and upgraded manifolds. I think soon he's gonna change it to a twin turbo which I think ITS turbo is coming out with. The nitrous is a 200hp shot from a NOS big shot two stage. Along with all this the body has been extensivly lightened, and like i said, most of the stuff is custom because of lack of real quality aftermarket parts for the new tibs. He has connections in some of the companies that make certain parts and he gets stuff custom fabricated. And the last I knew he had it just over 400hp, but that was also before some more little tweaks he did with the timing and all that so it might be higher but only maybe 5-10 more, not much at all. But that's that, and im sure if you live in the area he'd be more than happy to show you the car and then the rear end as he hauls ass away from you if you'd like. BS!!! :spit: :lol: X 50! a 200 shot on a Tiburon V6??? A "computer chip" controlling all this??? A frickin cold air intake on a turbo??? Just give up. LjasonL 07-28-2003, 10:16 PM Originally posted by Murco OK, you're either lying or you are the worst driver EVER! My Camaro runs 11.45 @ 125 in the quarter. It weights 3400 pounds, makes 520 hp, has a Corvette IRS in back and a T-56 manual. I have very little traction for the first 100' and only pull 125. You run roughly 20 hp more, an automatic, 700 less pounds, and only run 12.86?! :bs: Let's look at one other aspect.... K&N and 2 other speed shops are sponsoring this? Who's leg are you trying to hump? Dude, look at his trap speed! 135mph, That's no 12 second trap speed! :lol: Originally posted by Ringo Ban me for asking a question? have you forgotten about my American rights? This is a privately owned website, you have no rights here. The owner can ban you for any reason he feels like. LjasonL 07-28-2003, 10:20 PM Originally posted by PowerCrazy that maybe, but then why are the new tibs kicking most of the cars in it's class's ass :lol: what cars might that be? The SRT4, which is a full second quicker through the 1/4 for the same price? The Spec V, which comes with an LSD and the same power, for less money? Maybe the Mazdaspeed Protege, which could handle circles around it? Wasn't the Tiburon 5th place in SCC's "Top 8 cars under $20,000" test? Originally posted by PowerCrazy The new engines for the tib are being looked at as the next skyline engine in terms of the power that's able to be unlocked. So my guess at 400hp may be an undershot by a lot. WHERE the HELL did you get that? The Tib's V6 is NOTORIOUS for bending rods at around 250 whp Have any of you Tiburon owners EVER been to a racetrack??? Trying to compare it to a Z06 :lol: x a million S1 Type-R 08-08-2003, 01:00 AM *Burp* I eat Tibs for lunch....:devil: nates11sstang 08-16-2003, 12:05 PM when you make a car that's better then NSX, start flaming Honda, but that will never happen, so can you please stop and flame the drivers, not the actual car company.[/QUOTE] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HEY.......how much is an nsx........70, 80 grand......how much is a tiburon.....15-20 grand...... its funny because you put 15 grand into a tiburon and it would be a hell of alot fASTER than a nsx.....which are rich people cars.....hey do you drive one! didnt think so.....try to compare tiburons with a comperable car. By the way...i have an 89 stang which i have put 25grand or so into....and it will blow away lambos and ferraris in the 1/4 mile......that doesnt mean i am going to say my stang is comparable. nates11sstang 08-16-2003, 12:07 PM :lol: what cars might that be? The SRT4, which is a full second quicker through the 1/4 for the same price? The Spec V, which comes with an LSD and the same power, for less money? Maybe the Mazdaspeed Protege, which could handle circles around it? Wasn't the Tiburon 5th place in SCC's "Top 8 cars under $20,000" test? WHERE the HELL did you get that? The Tib's V6 is NOTORIOUS for bending rods at around 250 whp Have any of you Tiburon owners EVER been to a racetrack??? Trying to compare it to a Z06 :lol: x a million How stupid is that comment........how about you put the same amount of money into a tiburon as a zo6 costs, then see which is faster......i have 25grand into my stang and a zo6 is almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile......and zo6 still costs more...lol S1 Type-R 08-16-2003, 01:22 PM when you make a car that's better then NSX, start flaming Honda, but that will never happen, so can you please stop and flame the drivers, not the actual car company. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- HEY.......how much is an nsx........70, 80 grand......how much is a tiburon.....15-20 grand...... its funny because you put 15 grand into a tiburon and it would be a hell of alot fASTER than a nsx.....which are rich people cars.....hey do you drive one! didnt think so.....try to compare tiburons with a comperable car. By the way...i have an 89 stang which i have put 25grand or so into....and it will blow away lambos and ferraris in the 1/4 mile......that doesnt mean i am going to say my stang is comparable. If you read his comment it says when YOU make a car better then the NSX he was not compairing them.... DkShadow 08-16-2003, 03:54 PM How stupid is that comment........how about you put the same amount of money into a tiburon as a zo6 costs, then see which is faster......i have 25grand into my stang and a zo6 is almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile......and zo6 still costs more...lol Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. So dont try to brag how much money you put into your car. Also, the pricetag of the Z06 has something your 5.0 doesnt have. Its called Superb handling. Theres a reason why the car costs $50k. Dont even compare an NSX to a Tiburon. Something as high as the NSX should never be put in the same sentence with anything Hyundai makes. Remember... You can make anything fast with enough money, but at the end of the day youre still driving a POS. And you can never outrun ugly. :headshake S1 Type-R 08-16-2003, 06:15 PM Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. So dont try to brag how much money you put into your car. Also, the pricetag of the Z06 has something your 5.0 doesnt have. Its called Superb handling. Theres a reason why the car costs $50k. Dont even compare an NSX to a Tiburon. Something as high as the NSX should never be put in the same sentence with anything Hyundai makes. Remember... You can make anything fast with enough money, but at the end of the day youre still driving a POS. And you can never outrun ugly. :headshake So true...I couldnt agree with you more... :iagree: Murco 08-16-2003, 09:42 PM Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. Keyword - WOULD !!! :lol2: DkShadow 08-17-2003, 04:30 AM Keyword - WOULD !!! :lol2: :disappoin :nono: And it will coming next year. :evillol: Right now im working on the suspension. :smokin: nates11sstang 08-17-2003, 05:24 PM Ok so you run 10/11s with 25 grand. :disappoin My car would run that with less than half of what you wasted on yours. So dont try to brag how much money you put into your car. Also, the pricetag of the Z06 has something your 5.0 doesnt have. Its called Superb handling. Theres a reason why the car costs $50k. Dont even compare an NSX to a Tiburon. Something as high as the NSX should never be put in the same sentence with anything Hyundai makes. Remember... You can make anything fast with enough money, but at the end of the day youre still driving a POS. And you can never outrun ugly. :headshake ================================================== ==== yOU SHOULD KNOW THE 25GRAND WASNT JUST TO GO FAST.I brought it to only 3 car shows last year...won 2 , and second place in the third show....I COULD HAVE PUT 8GRAND INTO MY STANG AND MADE IT EASILY FASTER THAN A ZO6.(Not to mention my car is a whopping 15yrs older than the z06. IF THE ZO6 HAS SUCH SUPERB HANDLING....THEN WHY IS THE TIBURON SO CLOSE TO THE same HANDLING...CHECK OUT THIS SITE TO PROVE IT. 30 GRAND LESS....HANDLING AS GOOD! http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index1.html Enough said. Why do people talk with their asshole so often......I had a snob yell something at me in his yellow zo6 friday as he was driving by me .....funny thing is my car is 200hp more powerful......sorry i am not a rich snob able to afford a faggy yellow zo6...not saying vettes are faggy...but the color i believe was. There is no reason to down anyone elses car...unlesss of course they think its faster or handles better when in fact it does not......If anyone gets in a new tiburon and takes it for a ride....and doesnt think it is an excellent car for the money, then they need their head checked. Hey dkshadow......what car do you drive anyway.... nates11sstang 08-17-2003, 05:26 PM :disappoin :nono: And it will coming next year. :evillol: Right now im working on the suspension. :smokin: I was at the track in epping last week......i saw 2 zo6's doing low 13s.....not 12s like someone keeps saying.( oh they mean with a pro race car driver ...i forgot....we are all pro race car drivers....) DkShadow 08-17-2003, 09:07 PM Ok i just read the Motortrend article - http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0207_shark/index.html - If you would have read that, along with PowerCrazy, you would have known there were TWO, count them TWO meaning more than one Tiburons during that event. One being a STOCK, out of the dealer Tiburon... the other being a Tiburon Race Car. Direct quote Test gear humming, we warmed up the race-car's slick tires and laid down the quickest 0-60-mph time we've ever recorded for a front-drive car at 5.7 sec. Granted, this Tiburon weighs some 473 lb less than the production version Even with slicks and weighing 473 lb less than a production version, it only ran 5.7? :lol: The production version is 7 secs. Wow, its too fast for ya. Yep thats a Z06 killer. :rolleyes: Now... What i was arguing with PowerCrazy was that he was betting his life that a stock Tiburon could beat a Z06. Nope, the Tiburon was actually 3.62 secs slower while the Tiburon Race Car was the one that beat the Z06. Direct Quote. Between laps three and four, the car was transformed and shaved off an astounding 5 sec, down to a 0:58.64 lap. The best was yet to come, however, and on lap seven, a 0:57.78 ticked off on our way to consistent high-57-sec lapping So it says during laps 3-4 the car ran a time better than the Z06, which ran the 1.1 mile course at 0:59.50. BUT, before it... The Tiburon was running worse times than the production version. Typical though since its a race car and with more laps it tends to get better. So it took it 7 laps to make its best time of 57.78. But before it, a STOCK Z06 was making way better times than the Production version and the racing version Tiburon. It just means that with ALOT of money, and race cars arent cheap mind you, A car can beat another one. I was at the track in epping last week......i saw 2 zo6's doing low 13s.....not 12s like someone keeps saying.( oh they mean with a pro race car driver ...i forgot....we are all pro race car drivers....) 13s with a Z06? Thats a VERY lousy driver. If a person cant run mid 12s in his Z06 he needs to learn how to drive the car more. Same goes for a person that cant run 12s in an 03 Cobra or low to mid 13s in an LS1. Oh and my car is an 03 Mustang GT. :lol2: badassgremlin 08-18-2003, 07:28 AM :banghead: i can't belive you all have the balls to compare a zo6 vette to a tibby :nono: , tibbys are in no way able to out run a zo6 notta not gonna happen :headshake theyre not that fast to begin with and the zo6,well it just is , and i think Dkshadow would agree the Ls6 is a great motor and the 195 horse turd that hyundai uses is a uhhh turd! Murco 08-19-2003, 01:16 AM 13s with a Z06? Thats a VERY lousy driver. If a person cant run mid 12s in his Z06 he needs to learn how to drive the car more. Same goes for a person that cant run 12s in an 03 Cobra or low to mid 13s in an LS1. Oh and my car is an 03 Mustang GT. :lol2: Weather, humidity, altitude, winds, temperature and track condition all affect how individual cars perform on the strip. My Camaro ran 11.40's for 8 runs in a row last fall and I haven't been able to get better than 11.83 since then, even with 30 more horsepower and better tires. Why? The humidity and temperature this time of year in Florida. Nobody driving a stock '03 Cobra here (8 regulars, one a 25-year racer with rock-solid driving abilities) has cracked the 12's. We only have 1 Z06 driver that runs at this track (Bradenton Motorsports Park) and he did run a 12.94 last fall. LjasonL 08-29-2003, 02:30 AM How stupid is that comment........how about you put the same amount of money into a tiburon as a zo6 costs, then see which is faster......i have 25grand into my stang and a zo6 is almost 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 mile......and zo6 still costs more...lol Yeah that's real smart :rolleyes: So we have a stock vette, that runs, rides, and idles just as smoothly as stock (cuz it is stock). It gets 30 miles to the gallon, handles really good while at the same time riding as good as a stock car (it's stock, remember?) It's as relliable as it came from the factory (stock, remember?) and it has a full factory warranty (because it's stock). Oh, did I mention it's stock? And you want to compare it to a Tiburon that's had more money in mods than the price of the car itself? So you're saying someone who buys a Tiburon can afford to drop 25 grand cash into their cars, but someone who can afford a Z06 doesn't have any money for mods? :screwy: Do you know anyone who paid cash for their Tiburon? Do you know anyone who paid cash for their Z06? I doubt it, because most people finance their cars. So the whole "Whaa whaa he spent more money than me" argument is really stupid, isn't it? Ever heard of "run what ya brung"? It's what real racers do. We race and let the cars do the talking, or shut our mouths. Whining about price only works with the bench racers on the internet. BTW - I totally do not buy your Stang story. Got any proof? badassgremlin 09-02-2003, 08:40 PM considering those bench racers are mostly 13 yr old kids with a computer and a dream :rolleyes: this is stupid lemme splain,ok first you take a stock tibby,and a stock zo6 and haha a stock 5.0 mustang. put them through thier paces and who will come out on top? the zo6 no shit, then ok lets take that tiburon race car,the corvette c5R,and ummm,a non excistent 5.0 mustang race car who will come out on top? the vette duh :rolleyes: mainly because the corvettes only racing program beats the hell outta any tiburon program and the non excistent mustang program.ok now for your modded cars ok first for your mustang stock it puts out oh, i dunno 250hp? im dun have time for mustangs thats just est. for the 5.0,the tiburon is i belive 195hp. and the zo6? 405! well lets say we put $25,000 into each one im willin to bet you that the tiburon would just plain die,the 5.0 would be considerable against the stock zo6 and the modded zo6 destroys all of the above. my point is you can't compare modded cars to stock if you have a super modded tibby YOU CAN'T BRAG ABOUT IT WHEN YOU BEAT A STOCK Z06! thats just not fair take the zo6 with the same amount of mod's(in money) and then lets race. and as for that mustang dude im sorry but your car is nothing special at all get over yourself. :loser: maximo306 10-21-2003, 08:51 PM I dont know if any of you have ever heard of the twin engine tib, but why would someone put that much money into a car if i didnt have something to offer? and that tib will smoke any vette Murco 10-23-2003, 11:56 PM I dont know if any of you have ever heard of the twin engine tib, but why would someone put that much money into a car if i didnt have something to offer? and that tib will smoke any vette A twin-engine Tib.... Little more than twice the warranty problems... You'd be better-off throwing money into a fireplace and lighting it. Akisan2 10-26-2003, 03:10 AM I dont know if any of you have ever heard of the twin engine tib, but why would someone put that much money into a car if i didnt have something to offer? and that tib will smoke any vette gee let's put 2 engine in any car and it would blow ONE engine cars. DUH. Really, that tibby is really making other tibby owners in shame. If I own any car that is featured in reputable magazine with 2 engines running ONLY 11 sec on JET FUEL I will be rather ashamed... nexg3n 10-26-2003, 09:05 AM i will race anyone here less then 6k invested.... WITH purchase of car tibby01 10-26-2003, 03:11 PM gee let's put 2 engine in any car and it would blow ONE engine cars. DUH. Really, that tibby is really making other tibby owners in shame. If I own any car that is featured in reputable magazine with 2 engines running ONLY 11 sec on JET FUEL I will be rather ashamed... Get your head out of your ass. It is running mid 10 second quarter miles now, without gigantic turbos. They are small and subtle, which is what the owner wanted. Shitty little nitto tires on stock wheels, and automatic transmissions will also keep the time down. he also has a full interior with a/c. the owner built this car to be a sleeper, which is precisely what it is. imagine popping the hood of an opponents car and seeing a small turbo and no intercooler. easy win you think to yourself, when in fact you have no idea how bad your ass is going to be handed to you. It is the definition of "street-sleeper". And putting other tib owners to shame, what a moron. watch the video of the burnout and then tell me what you think of it. http://www.ecanfix.com/~hyperform/matt/Videos/tibouron_clip.mov Akisan2 10-26-2003, 03:57 PM Get your head out of your ass. It is running mid 10 second quarter miles now, without gigantic turbos. They are small and subtle, which is what the owner wanted. Shitty little nitto tires on stock wheels, and automatic transmissions will also keep the time down. he also has a full interior with a/c. the owner built this car to be a sleeper, which is precisely what it is. imagine popping the hood of an opponents car and seeing a small turbo and no intercooler. easy win you think to yourself, when in fact you have no idea how bad your ass is going to be handed to you. It is the definition of "street-sleeper". And putting other tib owners to shame, what a moron. watch the video of the burnout and then tell me what you think of it. http://www.ecanfix.com/~hyperform/matt/Videos/tibouron_clip.mov Ok i guess you didn't seem to understand what I was trying to say, though I don't think you give a damn since we are both biased to our own ways. You own/like the tib, I never own/will never own and dislike the tib/Hundai til i puke. Being said that, let me tell you what i think without trying to be rude... Cars in most people's mind have only 1 engine. It's the logical way most people think... Now if this owner puts 2 with turbo in tib, that's fine cause its his car and his project. I think he's giving this car alot of time and money and I respect that. But what I thought was "Ok to make this tib run good as supra/rx7/skyline.....or american cars, it has to put 2 engines with 2 turbos that ran with jet fuel??" was my honest reaction. Supras can reach that 10 sec without much problem on auto tranny nevermind adding another engine. That's just 1 example of what made me feel that way after reading an article. Being honest I try my hardest not to laugh since i was in DMV reading them. But like i said, much props to the owner, but I'd feel ashamed if i was owing the same type of car as he was cause in my mind that's kinda cheating to make cars faster. But like i said earlier, we all have our own definition to modifing cars. I would try to mod the best out of 1 engine, that's my way of taking a challenge. I would never try to add another engine and turbo that runs on jet fuel. That's my definition. I really do hate hyundai, but when people do awsome mod to a car I do have that silent "respect"no matter how much I hate that paricular car. I do awknoledge how much effort and money it took for this owner to make that car, so props....but you saw what i wrote. Now I am not going to argue or get convinced that hyundai's are great cause they aren't and will never be in my mind. I know that are growing but like someone said "New tib is being compared to skyline" Please, do a reality check. I won't try to bash much Hyundai as long as there's people not saying such idiotic things. out tibby01 10-26-2003, 04:38 PM Ok i guess you didn't seem to understand what I was trying to say, though I don't think you give a damn since we are both biased to our own ways. You own/like the tib, I never own/will never own and dislike the tib/Hundai til i puke. Being said that, let me tell you what i think without trying to be rude... Cars in most people's mind have only 1 engine. It's the logical way most people think... Now if this owner puts 2 with turbo in tib, that's fine cause its his car and his project. I think he's giving this car alot of time and money and I respect that. But what I thought was "Ok to make this tib run good as supra/rx7/skyline.....or american cars, it has to put 2 engines with 2 turbos that ran with jet fuel??" was my honest reaction. Supras can reach that 10 sec without much problem on auto tranny nevermind adding another engine. That's just 1 example of what made me feel that way after reading an article. Being honest I try my hardest not to laugh since i was in DMV reading them. But like i said, much props to the owner, but I'd feel ashamed if i was owing the same type of car as he was cause in my mind that's kinda cheating to make cars faster. But like i said earlier, we all have our own definition to modifing cars. I would try to mod the best out of 1 engine, that's my way of taking a challenge. I would never try to add another engine and turbo that runs on jet fuel. That's my definition. I really do hate hyundai, but when people do awsome mod to a car I do have that silent "respect"no matter how much I hate that paricular car. I do awknoledge how much effort and money it took for this owner to make that car, so props....but you saw what i wrote. Now I am not going to argue or get convinced that hyundai's are great cause they aren't and will never be in my mind. I know that are growing but like someone said "New tib is being compared to skyline" Please, do a reality check. I won't try to bash much Hyundai as long as there's people not saying such idiotic things. out its the whole point of what he was doing though. the supra is obviously faster off of one engine and could smoke a tib, but it costs four times as much new. he was making a stelathy car though. everyone knows supra's are fast as shit, and would prolly not want to race one. but you see a tiburon and you say to yourself "peice of shit" and so would prolly race it. this guy added a second engine putting a black peice of plexiglass in place of the rear window to conceal it. the whole point of this project was to make a car really, really fast without showing it. i think they accomplished that and then some more. now stick in manual transmissions, gut the interior, put big turbos on it, and slap some slicks on it with light wheels, and your breaking atleast into the 9 second quarters, which is very tough to get, even for supras. getting that tib into the 9's would also be cheaper than getting a supra into the 9's. there are currently single engine tibs in korea pushing 600whp, which shows the capabilities of the beta engine. you may think its cheating, but then you could kinda call having a v-8 cheating, as it has just as many components of the twin engine tib. i say there is no cheating in making a car fast, besides spending assloads of money because that can obviously get your car fast. as for the new tib, it is nowhere near the level of the skyline, and will never be. the main cap bolts are not held in tightly, and the bottom of the block blows apart. those bolts have a torque specification of 12 lbs./ft., which is about the same as a screw on your dashboard. after 250hp, they snap. some say its cause the threaded sections in the block itself are not strong enough to hold the bolts in, and the bolts just rip out. (if you want more info read this http://www.hyundaiaftermarket.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=39;t=000260) good stock power over the beta, but cant take anywhere near the power the beta can. so please dont base your opinions of hyundai on people that dont know what they are talking about. whatever though, "to each his own" is one of my favorite sayings.you dont have to like hyundai, just trying to find some reason for it. just download the video, you may gain a little more respect for our korean cars. 8URVTEC 11-15-2004, 12:41 PM hondas are alright but i would still prefer a v6 or bigger ive got a 2.5l probe that im pushing 463horse cant download the slip or id prove it. but my grandma likes her accord. haha ford & mazdas rock Murco 11-15-2004, 01:49 PM hondas are alright but i would still prefer a v6 or bigger ive got a 2.5l probe that im pushing 463horse cant download the slip or id prove it. but my grandma likes her accord. haha ford & mazdas rock :gives: :banhim: nisco 11-15-2004, 06:19 PM where the hell did this come from?!?!!?.. how old is this?1 ban whoever resurected this leadfoot411 11-16-2004, 04:53 PM I love my Tibby; and after owning a Fiero for over 10 years; believe me, I know what really is a turkey POS. leadfoot411 11-16-2004, 04:56 PM I thought that Fiero was the coolest looking car I'd ever seen; but it was a turkey, so what the hell; I hung onto my 1982 Fiero but had to get rid of it finally; got too much to maintain. I hope I do NOT have the same circumstances with the Tibby....we shall see. The mid engine on the Fiero was a bad idea, in retrospect. Tiburon99 11-16-2004, 06:25 PM This damn post is WELL over a year old, why the F**K am I posting in it? This shit is pathetic! 8URVTEC 11-19-2004, 12:17 PM why because you all are shit eaters and have nothing else to do with your systematic lives nisco 11-19-2004, 05:53 PM why because you all are shit eaters and have nothing else to do with your systematic lives where the hell did this come from?... shit eaters?.. wow that was clever Mister_Sinister 11-19-2004, 09:38 PM TS, please lock this. Underground_Killah 11-20-2004, 01:10 AM locked. wait... well... TS... lock it please? twospirits 11-20-2004, 11:22 PM Sorry about that guys, I was out of commission due to my pc having a hiccup and did not see this jerk. Member banned and thread locked. TS out vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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