1/12 scale Porsche 956 milling project

Hi,
i want to show you some pics of my newest project.
Its everything in the design stage at the moment.But i want to show some pics.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6334346636303063.jpg

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Everything is still under construction.But i think it looks good so far.

regards
Christian

ooooooh. can't wait to see this build! :D

956/962? Looking good so far, can't wait to see more.

Mike

956/962? Looking good so far, can't wait to see more.

Mike

yes! =)

Some more pics from the Porsche.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3135346533323735.jpg

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Now i have to think about how i mold the parts in silicon when the print is done.

regards
Christian

Beautiful would you realize a big scale model?

Hi Nino,
is 1/12 scale big enough?
Thats what i plan to do with the Porsche.

Hi Nino,
is 1/12 scale big enough?
Thats what i plan to do with the Porsche.

Yes is my favorite the classical "big scale" 1/12 can't wait to see this beauty!

Hi guys,
Sorry but i have to cancel this project.
There are massive problems with the designer and the printing.
So i must bring it to an end before it has began.
Sorry!
Regards Christian

Hey guys,

i will restart this Porsche project now.

Its not a 3D print,its a milling job now.

Here is a pic from the 3d-model so far.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3664326137393030.jpg

Now its not a 962,its a 956 that i want to do.
This is the start for a handmade car with less detail than before.But i will made this for sure.

Thats for now.

regards

I'm tuned this is a very interesting project!

Hi,
some news to show here.
The data was scaled down to 1/12.Than we created a CAD file for the milling machine.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6566663364346637.jpg

Than we removed every part that is not possible to mill.
So they are the wiper,mirrors and the rear wing.The wing will be made in another step.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6631326635343537.jpg

We created a small groove where the wing can be put in.Dont know how to say in english?
Some parts were closed and on the bottom we made some wheel adjustments for later.

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Here is the blank material for the milling machine.
Thats the first step.When we converted the files to CNC ,everything can start.
regards
Christian

*subscribed*

I am nearly sure I've seen years ago a 956/962 in 1/12 in resin in ebay. No idea of the manifacturer, but was a great beast.

Yes Paolo,there was some years ago a curbside Porsche. On hapico.com got lots of pics I think it was from California Model somewhat? But long out of production and not available anymore. regards Christian

Great project. If you need som whelp with high-res 3D printed parts, let us know ....

Thanks for the help,
but the Full-Detail brother is coming very soon.

Take a look here: http://www.modelfactoryhiro.com/new/en/archives/14541

probably will be expensive like a real one.

MFH did a update with their Porsche so also a update from my Porsche. :lol: :lol:


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The construction is done now.Some holes were closed and some parts are new designed.The windows are now constructed with a edge around to glue the sheet in.The stand for the rear wing are removed.They are so thin that cant be milled.Right now i dont know if i will cast it or only made a plastic template to glue it in?
Will see.

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This is a pic from the whole model based into the ureol block for milling.
Right now we figure out which tools we will use for the milling progress.
It looks like we only find some time at the middle of November for the milling.We got lots of work and no capacity at the moment on our fine milling machine.
So i got some more time to work on my Ferrari 512S .Not so bad. :wink: :wink:

regards
Christian

Now its finally started today.
Some pics from the milling process.

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Still a long way to go.The bigger steps are done.Now its up to very small programs with very tiny milling cutters.Up to 0,5mm diameter is the smallest we want use.
Thats all for now.
regards Christian

Thanks for watching here!
The fine surface is done now.

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I will see when i can work on with it.I need more data from the CAD guy here.That take a lot of time.
Still some working areas on the porsche to do.

regards Christian

simply wonderful Chris !

Watching with interest, have a few project in mind.

Amazing how this tuns out of the mill
beautiful proces

you can trow away the sandpaper now :p



p.s. respect your anwser on the pm

Very good project!

Nice work Capri-Schorsch, thx for de pictures.

best regards.

Thanks for sharing this project with us. Very interesting process with an excellent result so far.

Thanks for sharing!

Um... Wow!

Beautiful machine work and CAD model, Christian. Have you made any further progress/ What material did you machine the body out of? I am looking to do the same thing on my Evo project.

Hi Mike,at the moment everything is standing still.

Too much work for the mills and not enough time for my constructor to create the last bunch of cnc files.
Once everything is done we have to wait until our boss is on holiday.
Mhmm.....it took quiet a while.That was not expected when i started this project.
I think i have to learn programming by my self so i dont have to ask every week my cnc guy.That is frustrating.
Sorry!
The material i use i called Ureol
http://www.esterhammer.de/produkte/blockmaterial

Its a prototyping material for professional use.

regards Christian

never mind Chris, also I am one of the oens hardly waiting your updates on this incredible project.

Thanks for all your trust in me.
Today i updated my website with all new projects and i made pics from all the kits in my stash.
I was a bit scared when i counted them.Its really getting bigger and bigger.
If you want to take a look,here is the address.

http://mezzo-mix-models.jimdo.com/

regards Christian

Following this with great interest. I definitely want one, maybe two.

Please, could you tell the approximate overall milling time ?

The partly milled Porsche that you can see on the pics was about 3 hours on the first day and half an hour on the second day.
Overall 3:30 h milling time from the very first step to the actual level.
regards Christian

After a long break,i finally find some time for the Porsche.

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I stopped the CNC tooling,because my designer didnt find some time for me since November last year.So enough is enough and i started it now by my hands without any mill.

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The underfloor shape is now done and i started to make some finer details on the front hood.
But more pics when i got it back at home again.

regards Christian

That looks great Christian !

Sincerely

Pascal

I agree - very nice! I recognise the reference books from my own collection too, but what's the second one down, 'Racing On'? Is it purely about the 956 (like the Joe Honda book) or is it a mixture of cars?

Looking forward to seeing this one continue.

SB

Its only about the various Porsche 956 cars.
http://www.hlj.com/product/SAE61527/Aut

Some nice shots are there.

Thanks for your comments!

it is possible Porsche AG itself never made photo books about their racers so important for the history of motorsports?
With the care they always have around everything they do it could be just stunning stuff.

I love such books too, just cant stand any longer to pay for a nearly stricly japanese text only. Already did it in the past with millions on model graphix, model art, steel art, hobby japan....

After my Brabham is ready for gallery pics,i will go on with these car.

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I made the panel lines,only rough at the moment.Will be better in the next days.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3838343538363063.jpg

Changes to the fronthood.Lamps find their place and some body changes are made.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3665636332313031.jpg

The rear end is now in the final shape.Its not original but for the casting i find this is the best compromise.

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3764316331323738.jpg

Overview.

regards Christian

Panellines look good Christian. Except for the one at the bottom of the windscreen.

Nice work, keep it coming.

Sincerely

Pascal

Some new pics from my porsche.

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I used an rear wing from the Ford C100 and a lot of putty.
The wing on the pics are the first one out of resin.
The fins are made of 2mm plastic sheet.

A first layer of primer was applied to get an better view of the panel lines.
Still some work to do.

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I made small detail work and still have to do some more.
Right now i dont know how to make the rear suspension.Have to think a while for it.

regards Christian

Beautiful ! That coat of primer makes the model come to life.

Looking very good now; the primer really brought it together. What are you plans for the glass areas?

ianc

The windows should be done vacuum formed. The master piece will be milled and should be finished next week.
I will make two master forms.One for the front and side window and one for the front lamps.

Casting is coming closer now.

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The under tray for the casting mold.

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Some small parts for the wheel house.

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Thats how it looks with the Porsche.

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The outer mold is ready for casting.

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Overview.

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My sprue for the silicon.

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Mold for the vacuum formed windows.

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and for the front spotlights.

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My silicon stock right now.

I hope to cast this week the mold,but need some sanding on the Porsche first.

regards Christian

this is a nice project again Christian

After a week holiday in beautiful Austria i went straight back to the casting of the porsche.

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The master is ready for casting.

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First step was to use a pencil and put some silicon in the holes and on the whole surface.So there should no bubbles on the outside anymore.

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After this i put the foam a bit on an angle to provide it for bubbles.At the end i put it horizontally and fill it up with silicon.The most difficult part are the wheel house.I will see tomorrow if there bubbles or not.

regards Christian

go chris go ! a pleasure to see you working on this.

Thanks Paolo! Here it is.The green Hulk. http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6265393339623766.jpg removing the cover..... http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3631386630373738.jpg site panels removed.... http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3266363066353863.jpg and now the silicon mold ready to show. http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6663346433383837.jpg A look into the mold. http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3731313862366462.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6632636666343563.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3765346564626238.jpg Looks good so far.No bubbles or stuff like that.I am happy with the result. http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3263303935666435.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3463333666623665.jpg The frame is now screwed together and the silicon can be put in it again.I used some 0,4mm spacer at the sides to get some more shaping air for casting. http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3866303934303665.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3739373736343638.jpg Next part will be this.Wax sheets in different thickness to get the wished wall thickness. regards Christian

small update.

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started with the first layer of 2mm wax sheet.Still lots of parts have to be made.After this i apply a 1mm wax sheet and fill the gaps with plastilin.
Should work well at the end.
regards Christian

very impressiv how you make it al work every time :smokin:

i am happy you do sell them to us :wink:

The inner part is ready for the next step. I got 3,5mm layer of wax sheet now.On the edges its a bit more for stability. http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6462643633303239.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/3534623464303963.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/73/3980473/6530363838626463.jpg These ureol sheets are for the inner core where i use fast resin to cast it. regards Christian

Last update for today.

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Done more than i thought today.So the inner core was casted.
The core is not done with machine,i was faster than i expected and so i made it with a saw and my hands.Its not a beauty,but it works.
Tomorrow i will set some locating pins to hold the core on the right place.And some screws to secure the core with the two retaining strips.
I choose a hard resin for the core because i can always sand it or use putty when the core is too thin or too thick.

regards Christian

is is simply amazing what are you doing Chris. Too nice. Keep on postin and thanks to share it here.

Cant wait to get to the next step.

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Step by step to unpack the core from the wax sheets.The first thicker layers are easy to remove.But the last thinner one sticks together with the resin.Hard to clean it up.

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But at the end i got it ready to cast the first Porsche.
Now i have to wait until tomorrow morning.
Hope everything worked well.
Crossing fingers!
regards Christian

Best of British, amazing work mate

And this morning i unpacked the Porsche.

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This is the inner core made of resin.It looks very rough,but i wanted to test it first before i made a smoother surface.

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Looks very good,i think.Every detail is casted well and the surface is smooth.Perfect!

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A look under the body shows the rough surface from the inner core.I will change this next week when i am back at work with putty and sanding.
Here you can also see the air bubbles under the naca ducts.I hope with a different way of fill in the resin i can minimize them.

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A test fit of the rear 3 parts wing looks also good in my eyes.
So the body work is done so far.Next will be the tire/rim combi and i had to thought about how to make the chassis.

regards Christian