Some kid challenged me to a race I own a 98 GSX , and he owns a 02 Neon. What are the 1/4 mile on the neon anyways. And in your input how bad would i beat him. I mean seriously im running around 230hp with mods , and hes running 150 stock.

what kind of neon is it?
str-4?

if its a regualr neon u will bust it ass.. he wont have anything on you.. a stock neon probably does the 1\4 in 15-16 sec. itz a pretty shitty car stock..

good luck and have fun..:bigthumb:

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base model neon.


lol , the kid cracks me up. He then tells me hes an "honorary member of VCA " ( viper club of america) lol. And then he tells me that Neons are great for reliability because he got his for 9 grand with 7k miles on it. lol

GSX, those neons are slow as hell. I dont have a car, but for sho u will win. well, if it was a SRT-4, u would still win cuz u have a GSX wit 230 hp of mods:biggrin:, pretty sure that neon is STOCK

Kid just claimed that putting in New Cams into a 150hp Neon , would give him 50hp!. Read this and laugh.


BTW
ON my Gsx how much HP does a 3" full catback exaust give . Im lookin for some rough numbers because i hear numbers all over the chart.

If it's an R/T neon, it has 150, but anything else is 132 based on Dodge. An SRT-4 would be a good race, but that's besides the point. Point is if this kid is seriously saying he will beat you, then just be silent about it, don't let him get the best of you, and nonchalantly agree to it... than kick his ass, if he says more than one word after you beat him. Say, "Ya know.... i wasn't sure if i kicked you ass well enough... let's do it again... i think i can get at least 7 car lengths ahead of you this time." And finally, make sure there are non-authoritive witnesses.

You dont need any witnesses; the kid will know you whipped him, and if he mouths off to people that he won [assuming he lost; anything can happen !] just tell him if he won, he wont mind doing it again, with people watching

See how fast he shuts up :lol:

I have bad experiences with that tho , last race My civic VS a jetta , left him in the dust .Kid went to school and preached he beat me in the race. Kid wouldnt race infront of other people tho :biggrin:

Originally posted by Japmetal
You dont need any witnesses; the kid will know you whipped him, and if he mouths off to people that he won [assuming he lost; anything can happen !] just tell him if he won, he wont mind doing it again, with people watching

See how fast he shuts up :lol:

2 things about that, firstly, read the post below yours and above this one. Secondly, it's just going through too much trouble to schedule two races. Just have everything done the first time, and humiliate his ass the first time so he doesn't have room to talk. Leaving room for it isn't a good thing.

If he's not man enough to admit defeat, do you REALLY care what he tells anyone else ? If he beats you easy then he wont mind doing it infront of people [scheduling makes it sound like a multi-national event; you pick a spot, turn up & do it - simple]

However it goes off, you & your opponent know how it really went down & anyone calling your car slow should have a go themselves :sunglasse

ANd if they dont even HAVE a car [or one worth racing] they got no room to talk anyway !

Isnt the phrase "Dont let your mouth write cheques your body [or car] cant cash" ??

exactly. I hate dumb kids. I mean I will race people and I will win , and i also will race people and lose , I have 2 races schedluded soon . Me(gsx) Vs a neon , and me vs a WRX . The WRX will def put up a really good fight , and more than likely win , but who knows.

That Rex will most likely own you. Just a warning, seeing as you are pretty much stock.

yea those Wrx are nothing to play around with , Ill give him a good fight tho.

will a WRX really show up a GSX that bad? what are they running under the hood? 250hp?

WRX = 227hp . AWD. 3,000 pounds.

GSX = 210hp . AWD 3,100 pounds

Something tells me the WRX has something on the GSX , But that 17hp can be made up in mods on a GSX , and the WRX could be stock . Would be one good race.

going stock for stock i can see where being a 100 pounds lighter with 17 more hp could be a handfull to race. but even going stock vs stock i think it might be decently close. 3 car lengths or less. or not i have never seen a wrx run. LOL

neither have I , ive never seen a wrx in action. It shall be a good race.

Im so frigin confused .I thought id mention this i was in a 2003 neon today ( base model) thing was slow as poo but besides that . The front had power windows and power locks, while the back had power locks also , but manual windows. Does this make any sence?

Originally posted by Silver_GTR34
GSX, those neons are slow as hell. I dont have a car, but for sho u will win. well, if it was a SRT-4, u would still win cuz u have a GSX wit 230 hp of mods:biggrin:, pretty sure that neon is STOCK

Well from what I can see, you really don't have a clue what you are talking about. My SRT-4 will KILL a GSX. I have already done it three times. So you must be driving you mom's mini van will your knowledge.

not talking about the srts. im talking about the base models. 132, 150hp ver.

Originally posted by hydro628


Well from what I can see, you really don't have a clue what you are talking about. My SRT-4 will KILL a GSX. I have already done it three times. So you must be driving you mom's mini van will your knowledge.


And my Z28 will KILL an SRT-4...But then again the Z28 isn't the focus of this thread, just like the SRT isn't. We don't care, because that's not the car being focused on here.

Your Z28 won't kill anything unless you spent lots of money on mods. And if you did, I can spend that same amount and SPANK that Z28. I will own that car.

BTW
ON my Gsx how much HP does a 3" full catback exaust give . Im lookin for some rough numbers because i hear numbers all over the chart. [/B]

you got a GSX..You should go for the downpipe next...That will add some very good #'s to your car...And I don't remember your sig but do you have a BC?...If not think about just puttin together a MBC out of lowes parts...ya know..Anywho..the neon doesn't have a chance...The only pre-SRT4 model Neons with a chance would be the ACR's, and those were some fun fun fun cars......

Originally posted by hydro628
Your Z28 won't kill anything unless you spent lots of money on mods. And if you did, I can spend that same amount and SPANK that Z28. I will own that car.

Spend on.

His Z28 runs low 11's high-10's currently.

Only way you'll own it right now is if you buy it from him.

want to beat a WRX eh?
easy, take him up to 4th gear!!!!! ( but that is 100 plus, hope you are somewhere safe !)
but like the dsms, WRX responds to mods very well.
$1k in mods will be mid 13's
$2k in mods will be in low 13's
$3k in mods will be in high 12's
$4k in mods will be in mid 12's
$4k in mods plus 50 shot will be 11's
good luck

Originally posted by chris26969
WRX = 227hp . AWD. 3,000 pounds.

GSX = 210hp . AWD 3,100 pounds

Something tells me the WRX has something on the GSX , But that 17hp can be made up in mods on a GSX , and the WRX could be stock . Would be one good race.


With the modds it would proboly come down to the driver

How much HP does a stock GSX put to the ground? I'm just wondering that...because I know a WRX puts 170HP give or take to the ground, simply due to the 25% drivetrain loss......that and i've seen dynometer runs of stock WRX's...I've read in places an Eclipse GSX can put up to 165HP to the ground stock...Which is a much better drivetrain loss factor at only 21%...So...Mod for mod a USDM 4g63 theoretically would respond better than a WRX just due to the drivetrain alone..

Your Z28 won't kill anything unless you spent lots of money on mods
Z28, not kill anything? I don't think those words mix my friend.

And Chris yeah its pretty obvious your Eclipse is going to beat this Neon. But be a good sport about it win or lose, don't be a jackass like this guy.

I'll be glad to give you the credit that SOME z28's can kill everything and most Z28's can kill something here and there....But you have to admit there are Z28's out there that are 100% clunkers that should just be scrapped or parted out or something..The sad thing is..Alot of them are here in Az

Originally posted by Shinez
I'll be glad to give you the credit that SOME z28's can kill everything and most Z28's can kill something here and there....But you have to admit there are Z28's out there that are 100% clunkers that should just be scrapped or parted out or something..The sad thing is..Alot of them are here in Az

Yes yes, very true. Stock, the LS1s can kill 90% of the cars on the street, and nothing in their price range can even come close for the years they were made(excluding the 03 Cobra, which is still a bit more). My only REAL complaint of the Z28 is a probem that mainly affect the LT1 cars. It's their high "Freak Factor". Meaning that production of the cars seems to be sporadic, resulting in lots of cars that either put out a lot more hp than they should or a lot less. My car for instance was one of the good freaks, putting out right around 260-270rwhp stock. I've seen stock LT1s put out as much as 295rwhp STOCK, but also as little at 215rwhp. Even though it worked out good for me, statistically speaking, I would much rather see a consistent 245-250rwhp than have some guys making out like power bandits(likeme:biggrin:) and other guys getting raped on power straight from the factory.

yeah I've noticed that, I never really noticed just how apparent it is though..The freak factor that is...but the LS1 does have that factor aswell...Just like pretty much every car..but in the LS1's case..1 out of ____ can run 12's....So alot of LS1 owners go around saying "They're 12 second cars"...And in my point of view..If you have a car..and you race it a million times...and it run's 13's 999,999 of the times and 12.999 once...it's a 13 second car..

i was never aware the fact that the Z28 s had that problem. Really odd ,has any other car had this "freak" problem.

Originally posted by chris26969
i was never aware the fact that the Z28 s had that problem. Really odd ,has any other car had this "freak" problem.

I'm sure there are others. ALL makes of cars have the occasional freak. It's just more prevelant in the LT1s, with a lot more cars being on one side of the spectrum or another. Don't get me wrong though, MOST of the cars aren't freaks one way or another. There just seem to be more freak LT1s than there are other cars.

blablabla...
non-authoritive witnesses.

lol non-authorative witnesses... :tongue: that makes my day.