Car Quality Gap is closing (supposedly)
WRX2.0TURBO
06-18-2003, 02:13 PM
From SAE International (Society of Automotive Engineers) magazine: 'Automotive Engineering International'
http://mysite.verizon.net/romano.michael/QualityGap.JPG
http://mysite.verizon.net/romano.michael/QualityGap.JPG
del
06-18-2003, 03:40 PM
:eek: nissan's a lot lower on that list than i would have expected. there are a couple other surprises on there as well.
2strokebloke
06-18-2003, 04:20 PM
I'm surprised that BMW is so close to the top - my experience with their cars shows that, while not "bad", they just don't seem to be up to the standards I expect from a German company.
Hummer's position doesn't surprise me at all.
Hummer's position doesn't surprise me at all.
WRX2.0TURBO
06-18-2003, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by del
:eek: nissan's a lot lower on that list than i would have expected. there are a couple other surprises on there as well.
Keep in mind this that this is the number of REPORTED problems in the first 3 months of ownership.
And the results are the MEAN (average) for all models in the company or make. So, if the Maxima has great quality and the Altima doesn't, then Nissan's overall score will suffer. And a poor quality car that sells in large numbers will distort the results.
:eek: nissan's a lot lower on that list than i would have expected. there are a couple other surprises on there as well.
Keep in mind this that this is the number of REPORTED problems in the first 3 months of ownership.
And the results are the MEAN (average) for all models in the company or make. So, if the Maxima has great quality and the Altima doesn't, then Nissan's overall score will suffer. And a poor quality car that sells in large numbers will distort the results.
del
06-18-2003, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by WRX2.0TURBO
Keep in mind this that this is the number of REPORTED problems in the first 3 months of ownership.
And the results are the MEAN (average) for all models in the company or make. So, if the Maxima has great quality and the Altima doesn't, then Nissan's overall score will suffer. And a poor quality car that sells in large numbers will distort the results.
good point. you can see how one bad apple can ruin it for the rest. i've always found most nissans to be right up there with honda and toyota as far as quality and reliability. but yeah, i was quite disappointed in the craftmanship of the altima when i drove it, good engine(3.5se) but the rest of the car could use some work. i wasn't impressed with the xterra either, but the rest of nissan's lineup is pretty good.
Keep in mind this that this is the number of REPORTED problems in the first 3 months of ownership.
And the results are the MEAN (average) for all models in the company or make. So, if the Maxima has great quality and the Altima doesn't, then Nissan's overall score will suffer. And a poor quality car that sells in large numbers will distort the results.
good point. you can see how one bad apple can ruin it for the rest. i've always found most nissans to be right up there with honda and toyota as far as quality and reliability. but yeah, i was quite disappointed in the craftmanship of the altima when i drove it, good engine(3.5se) but the rest of the car could use some work. i wasn't impressed with the xterra either, but the rest of nissan's lineup is pretty good.
joeB
06-18-2003, 08:36 PM
03 Altimas are much improved over 02 or at least mine is.
My Altima is solid and very quiet. The exterior of the car is
flawless.
My Altima is solid and very quiet. The exterior of the car is
flawless.
YogsVR4
06-18-2003, 09:37 PM
Its not so much others are getting better, but all but Porsche got worse the last year that were below the average.
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crayzayjay
06-19-2003, 06:43 AM
Interesting reading..
2stroke>
i wasnt surprised with bmw's position, we've had near-faultless service from their cars in the past decade
2stroke>
i wasnt surprised with bmw's position, we've had near-faultless service from their cars in the past decade
Ringo
06-23-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by 2strokebloke
I'm surprised that BMW is so close to the top - my experience with their cars shows that, while not "bad", they just don't seem to be up to the standards I expect from a German company.
My experience is the opposite. My family's BMWs have gone to 250,000 and 450,000 miles and mine has 210,000 miles and all they've had is regular maintenance, no engine or tranny rebuilds of any kind.
"Ignorance is bliss, till it bites you in the ass"
I'm surprised that BMW is so close to the top - my experience with their cars shows that, while not "bad", they just don't seem to be up to the standards I expect from a German company.
My experience is the opposite. My family's BMWs have gone to 250,000 and 450,000 miles and mine has 210,000 miles and all they've had is regular maintenance, no engine or tranny rebuilds of any kind.
"Ignorance is bliss, till it bites you in the ass"
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