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GB Phoenix77
06-17-2003, 08:00 PM
Hey, Newbie here to the 240sx world. I have a SE-R Spec V, but I am scared to mod it. I would like to put down about 320 hp to the wheels, and I think a 240sx is the way to do it.

I have been watching and reading up. I really like the Kouki (97-98) body style, but I think the Zenki (95-96) is more in my price range.

I found two cars that I am interested in, and can't decide between the two. I want to bounce this one off the experts to help me decide.

1.) 98 240sx base model. 110k miles, 5 spd, AC, Pwr windows, Pwr Locks, Alloys, Spoiler, etc... no leather, no moonroof, no ABS brakes (LSD). Price is $7000.

2.) 95 240sx SE. 132k miles, 5 spd, loaded... with ABS (LSD), no roof, no leather. Price is $4500.


Are they both a good deal? Is neither a good deal? Is one better than the other?

I saw here http://www.zilvia.net/faqs/archive/koukiconversion.asp
that I can get the appearance I desire for about $1200. I would spend more on a CF hood anyhow.

I am not sure if I want to do KA24de- T, or JDM SR20det. I don't want to start that debate as it has been played out on this forum. But, which of these two cars is easier to work on...? I heard something about the 95 not having ODBII, thus easier to tune? Is this true?

Thanks in advance.... sorry for being a Newbie, so please don't flame me for stupidity.

Seth

Soyo
06-17-2003, 08:28 PM
this al depends on how much you have to spend and your plans for the car, you need to have some kind of idea where you want to go with the car before buying it, but I'll go ahead and give you my opinion

as long as the cheaper one is in good condition I would go with it and then just buy a new KA24DE for maybe $1000 probably less and it will have about 30-40k miles on it, that brings your price to 5.5k(still 1.5k less than the 98)which leaves money for some mods of your choice like: a light weight flywheel, clutch upgrade, exhaust, intake, shortshifter, lightweight pulleys, brakes, wheels and tires, bodykit, paintjob... the list goes on and on

even if you have plenty of money to buy the '98 and mod it up I'd say go with the '95 cuz that just leaves more money or you to make the car just the way you want it

hope that helps, good luck

SR20DETpower
06-17-2003, 08:30 PM
Number 2......


SE, 5 lug, ABS(possible VLSD), 3k cheaper, almost same miles......


that new one is expensive for that many miles......

Suislide
06-17-2003, 09:01 PM
i agree. option number 2. 20k extra for $3k less makes more sense as long as the rest of the car is all good.

GB Phoenix77
06-18-2003, 12:07 AM
My goals...

I want s14 or s15 looks...
http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=231804&make_type_query=make%3DNissan&model_brand_query=model%3D240SX&tree=Nissan%20240SX

This was already posted here, but I think this car is beautiful (not the wing though). I know this is an s15 front, not an s14, but, I have seen some really pretty Kouki front ends also. Not sure which body kit to get, but I definitely want the tapered headlights... with HID if that is possible.

So... I want late model Silvia looks, and the performance to match the look.

I would like to dyno around 320 rwhp. Hope to be in the high 12's. Not sure how much hp that takes? In other words... I want to beat the Mustangs, Camaro's, Trans Ams, etc... V8's that plague the city I live in. I want to destroy the high schoolers and their riced out Honda's.

Any tips on the OBDII thing?
Also, as I stated before... not sure if I want to go SR20det or Turbo the KA24de. I know both will easily reach 320 hp. But, which is more streetable at the point? Which is more reliable at that point? Which is less expensive to get to that point?

Thanks for the advice..... much appreciated!!!

Seth

ghostchild316
06-18-2003, 12:15 AM
KA parts are already in america so...

SR parts are not so...

If you want the car for drag,keep the KA.

http://www.back-yard-productions.com/CONROY.htm
This may help convince you to keep the current KA...

mynismo
06-18-2003, 12:15 AM
ka-t is less expensive and faster.... but the sr would probably be more reliable because of less miles and i've heard some people blow the ka engines when they don't turbo it right.

btw i think that guy could get by with that wing, on most cars it looks awful but i think that guy can pull it off because the rest of the body looks awesome

if you have a sr-t or ka-t you can do almost anything you want with looks :iceslolan

ghostchild316
06-18-2003, 12:18 AM
Um...I think ANY engine would blow up if not "turbo'ed" right...

driftin_SX
06-18-2003, 12:21 AM
i 2nd that thought

mynismo
06-18-2003, 12:41 AM
well you dont have to worry about getting the turbo right if its all together already, and is a stock car in japan...

im not downplaying the ka-t, i do think it is the better engine out of the two.

Sanchi
06-18-2003, 08:07 PM
Id go with the 95' all 95's with ABS has LSD standard. It comes with the package. And that deal your getting is kinda hard to pass up. I so love my moon\sun roof though :) But dont worry about turbo as yet you dont even have the car yet. There is no wrong way you can real go in picking whitch turbo set up you want, pick what you like!!:sunglasse

TheLogikal1
06-18-2003, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Sanchi
Id go with the 95' all 95's with ABS has LSD standard. It comes with the package. And that deal your getting is kinda hard to pass up. I so love my moon\sun roof though :) But dont worry about turbo as yet you dont even have the car yet. There is no wrong way you can real go in picking whitch turbo set up you want, pick what you like!!:sunglasse


<---1995 nissan 240sx (non-se): no abs

Sanchi
06-18-2003, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by TheLogikal1



<---1995 nissan 240sx (non-se): no abs

<---1995 nissan 240sx "SE": ....... no ABS :frown: :crying:

yup so sad so sad...

dayna240sx
06-18-2003, 11:19 PM
<----------- 1995 240sx "SE" WITH ABS and LSD (I got every option except the sunroof)


:tongue:

barrigaS14
06-18-2003, 11:32 PM
<---------------'95 SE w/ everything (LSD, ABS, Leather, etc.) and sunroof...man i love that thing.

Sanchi
06-18-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by barrigaS14
<---------------'95 SE w/ everything (LSD, ABS, Leather, etc.) and sunroof...man i love that thing.

ghaberhda Ghasodifjoena.... :biggrin2:

mynismo
06-19-2003, 12:39 AM
<--------------- the best '90 auto n/a 240sx in the world

:icesangel

Soyo
06-19-2003, 01:31 AM
I'd say just buy a knew KA with low miles and turbo it then put some pulleys, cams, intake, exhaust, lightweight flywheel and clutch upgrade and you'll be set

TheLogikal1
06-19-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Soyo
I'd say just buy a knew KA with low miles and turbo it then put some pulleys, cams, intake, exhaust, lightweight flywheel and clutch upgrade and you'll be set

whats this guy talking about?

dude, did you post in the wrong thread or something?:eek7:

Suislide
06-19-2003, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by TheLogikal1


whats this guy talking about?

dude, did you post in the wrong thread or something?:eek7:

no...he means the stock one is somewhat high mileage (although not really), so the buyer could maybe throw a new KA in there if he wasn't confident of the older one's capabilities.

TheLogikal1
06-19-2003, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by S13_Iketani


no...he means the stock one is somewhat high mileage (although not really), so the buyer could maybe throw a new KA in there if he wasn't confident of the older one's capabilities.


oohhhhhh, my bust, i get blonde sometimes...hahaha


no seriously, sometimes i highlight my hair blonde

ghostchild316
06-19-2003, 12:08 PM
Screw you guys and all your options

That's why my car is lighter than all of y'alls:thefinger

TheLogikal1
06-19-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by ghostchild316
Screw you guys and all your options

That's why my car is lighter than all of y'alls:thefinger


hahahahaha!!!:iceslolan :iceslolan :iceslolan :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


funniest thing ive heard so far

GB Phoenix77
06-20-2003, 08:05 PM
So after work tomorrow (yes I work on Saterday), I am going to jump in the car and drive 15 hours to Georgia. I am finally buying a 240sx.

I originally posted asking which to buy...
'95 with 130k, for $4500 or...
'98 with 108k, for $7000.

Sounds like the most people agree that the '95 was the better way to go. I agree... so I tried to work a deal with the dealership that has it. But, they were DICKS... They wanted to 100% payment in advance, non-refundable. I told them I would give them like $500 non-refundable to hold the car, but I have to see it, and drive it before I commit to more. They said "tough luck". So I said.. (In my best Eric Cartman impression) "Screw You Guys".

So I start looking again, and found an even better deal.

'96 Black 240sx (base model unfortunately). 89k miles, no roof, but it does have power windows, locks, cruise, etc... plus a hefty aftermarket stereo system. No ABS either... too bad, I will have to buy an LSD setup some time in the future. He's even got the suspension modded already. Asking price $4000. I talked him down to $3600, but I have to get there ASAP to pick it up. So. ROAD TRIP!!!.

I am pretty excited. Thought I would share.

Thanks again for the advice. I am sure I will be asking more of it in the next months and years to come.

Seth

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