can anyone tell me who makes good short shifters and any information I should know about them?

The only one I could find for the 240 was B&M. I have no idea about them though and I was going to post something about them too. I need one also but dont really feel like spending $300.

B&M is the best I've find myself, I found it for $250 on enjukuracing.com it has a little bit of information about it on the site, supposably its the best quality one you can get but I'm not sure, which is why I made this post :iceslolan

I hear the B&M has the shortest throw and best feeling for a racer, but it also can rattle..... and it costs more.





OBX/C's short shifters are the same I hear and are acceptable.... shortens the throw up a bit. Cheaper.

OBX/C's can also have problems with rattling, as seen in another thread somewhere around here. sometime the proper parts aren't included, but overall i've heard they're a good shifter.

doesn't Nismo make one too?

yes

number 23 down

http://www.prospec-ms.co.uk/merchandise/nismo_s14.html

This guy I know had an auto 240. He bought that nismo short shifter from ebay I think. He was going to do the conversion but decided to just sell the car instead. So I put it on my car, but it felt like stock. I think the guy that sold it on ebay put the nismo one in his car and sold his stock on claiming it was the nismo. Or the nismo ones just suck which I highly doubt

its supposed to be a 10% shorter stroke which doesn't sound alot to me but i dunno

Originally posted by S13_Iketani
OBX/C's can also have problems with rattling, as seen in another thread somewhere around here. sometime the proper parts aren't included, but overall i've heard they're a good shifter.

doesn't Nismo make one too?


obx has updated their short shifter and gotten rid of the rattling problem

B&M and OBX both claim a 45% shorter stroke, B&M is supposed to be more durable than the OBX which is probably the reason of price difference

you can find both the OBX and B&M short shifter at www.enjukuracing.com OBX for $100 and B&M for $250

quoted from enjukuracing:
"B&M Short Throw Shifter Nissan 240sx 89-98. If you want QUALITY, this is the shifter for you. Be the First to own one of these quality shifters. These are the best looking and highest quality Shifters we have ever seen for the 240sx. These Shifters firm up shifting, and shorten the throw by almost 45%. Never miss a gear again!!"

Or you could always have one custom made. In my RX-7 I got one custom made and it has about a 55% shorter throw now. Nice and tight...

Originally posted by dayna240sx
Or you could always have one custom made. In my RX-7 I got one custom made and it has about a 55% shorter throw now. Nice and tight...

how much did it cost to do that?

about $300, but it might be different for the 240.

alright i've had both shifters. i once had a obx one, and it still rattled on high rpm. the feel of the shifter is more positive then stock, but the throws wasn't decreased signicantly. most of my friends couldn't even tell the difference between stock and that short shifter installed. i had that shifter for around 8 months before i changed to my b & m. and i'll tell you this, the b & m is the best shifter i have ever felt. the shifting action is literally bolt action rifle precise. it feels almost as sturdy as the shifter found on the S2000, and its more precise then the ones found on the 350Z and the rx-7 FD3S. the throws are also amazingly reduced. when that same friend felt my b & m shifter, he was like holy shit, you guys gotta feel this, this thing will give you an orgasm!! the only thing that i can tell you guys to compare it to, is you know the arcade game daytona usa? when you shift that shifter, thats how short the throws are on the B & M unit. trust me i've had both, the B & M is infinitly better then the OBX

well thats good enough an explanation for me!:bigthumb:

ty for that Tat, its good to hear from people who have had a couple different types and can tell you which one is nicer in better detail then website info lol...

Ya im gona have to agree with TatII also. The B&M is quality stuff you do get what you paid for right. They said B&M had fixed the Rattleing but ppl that have the newer one said it still rattles alil ohh well. Besides the Rattleing starts at around 5k RPM. Why would you take it up to 5K RPM unless you on the track or running for you life. If thats the case the Rattleing isnt goina be your highest concern. The ratteling isent even that noticable. With your exhaust and motor roaring at 5k RPM dont worry about it, its just the price thats the hard part to get through. :bigthumb:

I just installed an OBX in my 95 S14 and it has a way shorter throw than stock, is more precise, and doesn't rattle. As for durability, it is a solid piece of metal with no moving parts. How much more durable can it be? And it only costs $100. Sure, the install was a PITA, but I still don't see how the B&M is worth an extra $150.

well if you pay careful attention to the shifter stem of hte obx. its actually a 2 piece unit glued together. under many many hard shifts, i actually was able to separate the piece into two!!! of course that is nothing that alittle metal epoxy can't fix. anyhow, the obx is a much more quieter unit. the b & m is very noisy even at cruising speeds, you can hear the whirly sounds from the tranny coming out of hte shifter. but its a minor moan. but when you really rev the thing, the shifter starts to scream. really really loud, but how often do you drive that hard anyways? so i still think its worth it. plus like you guys said, there is a newer version out that doesn't rattle as much. just get that one then. and for some of you who was talkin about the nismo unit. yes i know someone with that one too. its definitly better then the obx unit, but it doesn't really reduce the throws at all. the obx reduces the throws more then the nismo does. the nismo one is just a more solid shift. even more solid then the obx unit. but after owning a b & m and i felt the nismo one again, the nismo one actually feels soo disconnected compared to my B & M in fact, everyone single one of my 240 friends ( thats around 6) that have felt the shifter ordered the B & M the following week. that is exactly how i got hooked into it. i had my OBX then i sat in one of my friends 240's who has a B & M and i felt it and i can't believe how short and precise the thing is.

edit: and for you SR guys, even though B & M said that it only fits on a KA it also fits on a SR tranny. i know 3 people with the B & M on there SR motors. ( i put it under edit casue i felt that you guys would get tired of reading my ramble and i felt that this is a pretty important point cause not alot of people knows that many people with 240's with or without SR swaps like me so i just like that share my knowledge)

i also installed a b&m shifter on my s14. I can vouch for the diamond-cut throws and shorter shift, but above 4500 rpm the thing rattled so loud you could hardly hear the engine.

There wasnt a huge difference between the stock s14shifter and the b&m, but it would be an incredible change if that same shifter were put into a s13 (I can say that after having driven both cars for extended periods of time).

yes, the S13 has a rediciously long throw. but my S14 had a similarly long throw as well. i remember that the throw was soo long that i had to twist my whole upper body to do a 2-3 shift.

my question is why would vibration be so loud as to make the whole shifter whistle or whine.. arent there cold joints where u should be putting lubricant of somesort?

i understand that at 5k it rattles.. but THAT loud? there has to be a way to improve,if not eliminate, that on your own.

any suggestions? :comprage1

that happens beucase the thing is soooo solid that all the vibrations from the tranny gets travels up the shaft to the shifter.

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so there arent any tiny bushings or gromets that u can put in there to make it less suseptable to vibrations???