I saw a "Acura" Intgra Type-R goin against the CL-S, FOR SURE its an CL-S, and that CL-S won by like 2 car lengths...im jus wonderin if thats possible, and im a newbie here too:dogpile:

I really doubt that...I think you are full of s**t

what mods did they both have. a cl-s should be door to door with an integra-r. NO WAY in hell he won by two cars. unless the itr couldnt drive!!!

this newbie doesnt kno wut he's talkin about

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haha i never noticed that I-VTECH!!!!!!!!! :spit:


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HAHAHHHAA!!! i agree

depending on the driver, or the mods. It would be a good race.

The CL-S takes the cake. According to Edmund's an Integra Type R weighs 2672 lbs, has 195 hp [a ratio of 13.7 lb.s/hp] and can do 0 to 60 in ~ 7.1 sec. A CL-S weighs 3510 lbs and has 260 hp [a ratio of 13.5 lbs/hp] and does 0 - 60 in 6.57 seconds (automatic tranny). A manual tranny will do 0-60 in ~ 5.9 seconds. The CL-S also has 232 lb-ft of torque compared with a puny 130 lb-ft for the Type R. By the time the two cars have traversed a quarter mile the CL-S should be at least two car lengths ahead. BTW: the 260 hp rating is on the conservative side. This year Acura is publishing a rating of 270 hp for the same engine.

When I bought this car I compared it with cars like the 300M & the Cadillac Seville which ostensibly share a similar power to weight ratio. The Acura was waaaayy faster!!

how do you think they managed to get that extra 10 hp? it's funny, nissan did the same thing. the 02-03 maxima's have 255 hp and the 04 with the same VQ35 engine make 265.

The CL-S takes the cake. According to Edmund's an Integra Type R weighs 2672 lbs, has 195 hp [a ratio of 13.7 lb.s/hp] and can do 0 to 60 in ~ 7.1 sec. A CL-S weighs 3510 lbs and has 260 hp [a ratio of 13.5 lbs/hp] and does 0 - 60 in 6.57 seconds (automatic tranny). A manual tranny will do 0-60 in ~ 5.9 seconds. The CL-S also has 232 lb-ft of torque compared with a puny 130 lb-ft for the Type R. By the time the two cars have traversed a quarter mile the CL-S should be at least two car lengths ahead. BTW: the 260 hp rating is on the conservative side. This year Acura is publishing a rating of 270 hp for the same engine.

When I bought this car I compared it with cars like the 300M & the Cadillac Seville which ostensibly share a similar power to weight ratio. The Acura was waaaayy faster!!

Where did you get the 7.1 sec for the Type-R ? If you look in any respectable magazine like motortrend, etc you'll see that they pull of a 6.2 sec 0-60 and I've seen 1/4 miles as low as 14.6 for the Type-R in a magazine. I've read a thread were a guy supposably ran a 14.3 in a stock Type-R but I don't know if that's true. So really between those two cars it would be all driver.

From the factory the CL-S is 2nd fastest only to the NSX. Stock it beats both the ITR and the RSX-S in the 1/4 mile. I believe it runs somewhere around 14.6-7 range, and probably faster on better tires.

doesn't the TL type S pull a little faster than the CL-S, making it second to the NSX? i remember looking at a chart in motor trend that showed the TLs pulling only fractions faster than the CLS in both the 0-60, and quarter

Where did you get the 7.1 sec for the Type-R ? If you look in any respectable magazine like motortrend, etc you'll see that they pull of a 6.2 sec 0-60 and I've seen 1/4 miles as low as 14.6 for the Type-R in a magazine. I've read a thread were a guy supposably ran a 14.3 in a stock Type-R but I don't know if that's true. So really between those two cars it would be all driver.
the type-r probably does run a 7.1 0-60 when they do those tests they dont launch, they just floor it.
on kazaa it shows a type-r and a cl run a 1/4 both stock and the cl one by 3tenths

honda s2k is faster than the cl. so i guess that makes the cl the 3rd fastest?

has anyone ever seen a rsx-s and a s2000 run?
how much faster is the s2000?

stock vs stock, quite a bit (1/4 mile.)

modified, the type s can catch up to a stock s2k pretty easily (i/h/e/hondata would push it past it easily)

what mods would a gsr need to keep up or beat it???

what mods would a gsr need to keep up or beat it???

well, jus think about the times.

the cl is mid 14's so its going to take jus i/h/e/clutch/cams (non-tuned) to pull that off.

for the s2k, it CAN run as low as high 13's (all after 2000), so ur looking at jus a bit more of a build.

prolly would take i/h/e/clutch/cams/cam gears dyno tuned to make it past that.

they aren't rockets, but they get up an move quite well...

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NSX>S2000>CL type S>Accord 6speed>RSX-S>ITR>Prelude S=GSR>Civic Si 99>Civic si 03-04>EX>DX

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NSX>S2000>CL type S>Accord 6speed>RSX-S>ITR99>Prelude S=GSR>Civic Si 99>Civic si 03-04>EX>DX

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NSX>S2000>CL type S>Accord 6speed>RSX-S>ITR99>Prelude S=GSR>Civic Si 99>Civic si 03-04>EX>DX

actually the rsx type s is slower than the 3rd gen type r.

the lude an gsr are basically even (all driver).

doesn't the TL type S pull a little faster than the CL-S, making it second to the NSX? i remember looking at a chart in motor trend that showed the TLs pulling only fractions faster than the CLS in both the 0-60, and quarter

The TL is slower than the CL the CL is the 2dr and the TL is 4dr and weighs more. As fas as the CL-S beating the ITR I do not really believe that.


The CL-S takes the cake. According to Edmund's an Integra Type R weighs 2672 lbs, has 195 hp [a ratio of 13.7 lb.s/hp] and can do 0 to 60 in ~ 7.1 sec. A CL-S weighs 3510 lbs and has 260 hp [a ratio of 13.5 lbs/hp] and does 0 - 60 in 6.57 seconds (automatic tranny). A manual tranny will do 0-60 in ~ 5.9 seconds. The CL-S also has 232 lb-ft of torque compared with a puny 130 lb-ft for the Type R.....

If you go by this math you have the CL-S has just 0.2 lbs/hp less than the ITR and the 838lbs will add roughly .8 seconds to the 1/4 mile time. So how is it that the CL is going to be 2 cars in front of the ITR? It does not make sense.:nono:

Speed is relative. The ITR would smoke probably any of the Acura/Honda lineup through the twisties (unless a professional was driving the NSX). The NSX is the unquestioned king of the lineup on the freeway. The CL-S 6 speed would be second on the E-Way, and the S2000 third. The S2000 would take a CL-S in the 1/4 mile, mind you, not by much, but not in a 1/2 mile race. Accelerating at High speeds start showing that torque does matter. It's all relative to what you're looking for.

I'll lay the issue to rest. I drive a 2000 ITR and I raced a CL Type S and I took it but just by a little, it was a pretty close race.

Pseudomaniac- An Itr wont stay close on the twisties against an s2000 or an NSX. Come on man, ever hear of rear wheel drive?

Dont care if the type R is the best handling front wheel drive in the world (which it is) but dont compare it to an s2000 or an NSX. Those are REAL sport cars. ITR, PRELUDE, SI are sportie cars.

The TL is pretty fast though considering it is a luxury car...just wondering, what type of mods would raise the HP on the TL (approx 50 HP)

I'll lay the issue to rest. I drive a 2000 ITR and I raced a CL Type S and I took it but just by a little, it was a pretty close race.

was your ITR stock vs stock? or did you have mods?

The type r shoulda won no problem, unless the cl was modded, which it prolly was, otherwise the nerd in the cl would have never challenged the type r

i have rsx type-s and this guy said he can smoke me with hes integra gs-r so i just wonted to know what do u guys think any ways i let u know whos gona win we gona race next sat here in jacksonville , fl race track if u live come and check me out :iceslolan

a gsr will give you some good skid marks in your draws if you think you can smoke em in your type S ... and by the way , im in jax . fl and i drive a gsr ... wanna race ??

Having owned a type-r, I ran he car completely stock w/ almost a full tank of gas and turned a 14.60 at 97 w/ 220 lb driver. The race would be very close, would come down to driver skill

did cmugen race an auto cl type s or a manual?


some people don't seem to believe, but there is a BIG difference

by the way, the 6spd also comes with lsd,

and whoever on the first page was talking about how he couldn't believe that the 6 spd cl type s is faster than an ITR, dude...horsepower isn't everything, torque matters also

the cl has more torque too ...

Just had to chime in, in defense of the CLS.. The GSR/ITR's will not take a CLS. I raced one when i first bought my CLS and pulled 3 cars 0-60, and still kept walking. The GSR/ITR's are not slow by any means but faster than a CLS not quite.

P.S. - I know everyone is gonna come back with the same excuse.. "he probably couldn't drive".. Actually the person driving is a friend of mine, and he can drive trust me. He launched perfect and all. He admitted he just couldn't catch up.

doesn't the TL type S pull a little faster than the CL-S, making it second to the NSX? i remember looking at a chart in motor trend that showed the TLs pulling only fractions faster than the CLS in both the 0-60, and quarter

How do you figure the cl-s and tl-s both have 260 hp and the cl is a tad lighter so the cl-s is faster

and yes the video is true i saw it myself both cars had minimal mods just dont know what, but a cl-s is faster than a type-r stock for stock

How do you figure the cl-s and tl-s both have 260 hp and the cl is a tad lighter so the cl-s is faster

and yes the video is true i saw it myself both cars had minimal mods just dont know what, but a cl-s is faster than a type-r stock for stock

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