Building Johnny Rutherford's 1974 Indy 500 Winning McLarem M16C and Need Some Advice.

09-04-2013, 11:43 PM
Howdy from Texas,

I'm thinking about building the AMT kit of Johnny Rutherford's Indy 500 winner. The kit seems like building the 1974 winner is no problems but what are your opinions?

Also, I'm hoping to detail it out completely but there are some areas or the car where I can't seem to find information. In particular, the brake system inside the nose. I'm thinking that for such areas I can use the early McLaren M23's as a reference -- the Denny Hulme M23/1 for example. What are your opinions on this?

Thanks in advance for everyone's help.

09-05-2013, 10:45 PM
As far as detailing goes, likely it wont matter what you do, as long as it looks like it belongs. Detailing it like a period car, even if it's not 100% accurate will be more then fine I believe since the number of people that have probably seen those details is going to be very small. I've never seen some of the finer details on an Indy car that old so if it looks right, who am I to second guess it. And I'm sure no one else would either, accuracy is great, but lets face it, if it looks good, we'll all be impressed.


09-07-2013, 07:10 AM
Howdy Texas!
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09-07-2013, 10:10 AM
The real trick is to discern between what's period correct when looking at photos vs. what's been done differently during a restoration of a car. If you're looking at photos of the M23 as a point of reference, there are a lot of restored cars which aren't technically correct for the livery they are showing - mainly because the M23 was raced for 5 seasons and in many different liveries, but there is only one livery everyone wants to see it in. As far as the brakes go, front brakes you should be OK with an M23 as reference as they weren't vastly different.

All that said, as Griffin says, there are very few folks that could openly dispute which is correct, myself included. It boils down to picking which looks most correct to you and building it how you think it should look.

09-10-2013, 10:12 AM
Thanks for everyone's advice.

Indeed Indycals is a great source for parts. I will definitely use them.

I also agree with getting things about right as apposed to getting things exactly right. Perfection is an impossible standard and difficult to attain on some historical subjects like these 40 year old McLarens and I just want to be sure that things look right even if they aren't exactly right.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

09-10-2013, 10:20 AM

M23 and M16 are very closely related as these pictures show, and taken by me at Goodwood Festival of Speed 1999. Naturally it is a restored car - but done by McLaren themselves - which is a qualitystamp if ever there was one.


09-10-2013, 02:59 PM
Wow! Great pictures. Thanks!

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