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Tamiya Sierra Cosworth kits...


stevenoble
08-12-2013, 06:57 AM
I know that Tamiya made two versions of the 1/24th Ford Sierra RS Cosworth back in the mid 90's, the Eggenberger (black one) and the Piumini Trampio version. My question is to anyone who may have both of these kits in their collection. Are the kits identical except for the decals, i.e they have the same parts on the sprues..?? I've been trying to find one for a while now as I have the Shunko models decal sheet to make the Eggenberger version. However if they are identical in the plastic parts I figure I could get either version as I have the decals already. Just opens up more chances to get hold of one..

reJI
08-12-2013, 08:06 AM
Both kits are same, only difference decals...

rallymaster
08-12-2013, 08:16 AM
Both kits are same, only difference decals...

I had a difference in one of mine, the Eggenberger one had no lip on rear wing whereas the Piumini one had the lip.
I purchased both kits as new so I guess it's the original condition.

Fangi0
08-12-2013, 08:16 AM
The mirrors are different, although i don't recall if both kits have both sets of mirrors. IIRC, the Piumini car had both sets of mirrors, and the Eggenburger just one.

David

reJI
08-12-2013, 09:12 AM
to rallymaster: I do not know what do you think "lip" on the rear wing?
to FangiO: yes difference in the mirrors, but both version are in the frame "C".

I have both versions and there are all parts of the same ( only Texaco black and Piumini Trampio white colours ).

racer93
08-12-2013, 11:00 AM
I know that Tamiya made two versions of the 1/24th Ford Sierra RS Cosworth back in the mid 90's, the Eggenberger (black one) and the Piumini Trampio version. My question is to anyone who may have both of these kits in their collection. Are the kits identical except for the decals, i.e they have the same parts on the sprues..?? I've been trying to find one for a while now as I have the Shunko models decal sheet to make the Eggenberger version. However if they are identical in the plastic parts I figure I could get either version as I have the decals already. Just opens up more chances to get hold of one..
I'm jealous--I have always loved the shape and rear wings of those cars! These along with the Escort RS Cossie are two of my perennial favorites!

I just wish I could find one of these kits at a decent price..:uhoh:

rallymaster
08-12-2013, 11:04 AM
to rallymaster: I do not know what do you think "lip" on the rear wing?

Huu... I don't know how to say it better than lip...?! :dunno:
it's like a small wing over the main wing rear... (not sure it helps).
I can't say if my kits were from reissue serie or original serie, but I doubt Tamiya would have changed only that for a reissue...
I noticed that because rally versions don't have the lip used for track racing and I realized it only after having swapped the black sierra with a friend's other model.
As both versions are for track models it's a bit strange especially that I purchased all my sierra kits as new from retailers.
I now only have a Piumini left to build Auriol's 88 TdC version so I can't verify anything anymore except what I have in my hands.

rallymaster
08-12-2013, 11:13 AM
The lip is visible on this pic, it's the black part over the rear wing at its back.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Ford_Sierra_RS_500_1.jpg

reJI
08-12-2013, 11:24 AM
I think that I know what it is ... But as I wrote both my kits have the same parts. When I have free time I try to take photos it.

rallymaster
08-12-2013, 04:05 PM
I think that I know what it is ... But as I wrote both my kits have the same parts. When I have free time I try to take photos it.

No need to take pics, I trust you ! :biggrin: :lol:
maybe my kit was not so new when I purchased it but that would be surprising... That said I bought so many kits during the years that I may confuse something and haven't bought both sierra kits at a retailer... :dunno:

stevenoble
08-12-2013, 06:37 PM
Thanks for all the help guys, answers my question. So now I can try and find one at a reasonable price. That might be the hard part. They seem to be commanding some pretty impressive sums of money just recently...

lemansnut
08-12-2013, 09:00 PM
And when you do find one and buy it, Tamiya will likely reissue them. :)

Mike

Fangi0
08-13-2013, 01:03 AM
And when you do find one and buy it, Tamiya will likely reissue them. :)

Mike

This one seems to be different.... I've been 'collecting' them for about 10 years now, and was sure that there would eventually be a re-issue.....

The Escort Cosworth is the same. For some reason Tamiya aren't interested in re-releasing that - It took Domino to commission a 'decal-free' re-pop of that....

I wonder if Ford are a bit OTT with their licensing perhaps ?

It's a shame, as the Sierra is crying out for the kind of treatment they recently gave the 934.... a new interior tub, detailed / complete cage, and even an engine. Given what they fetch on eBay you'd have to assume it would sell.... At least every bit as much as a 934...

JeremyJon
08-13-2013, 03:54 AM
They have gone crazy in price, one on ebay now for $100, which is nuts! Wish I had hung onto the couple of kits I sold a several years ago, but they were still on shelves back then :(

generationx
08-13-2013, 01:01 PM
Yes the price for these has gone crazy, I guess most of the unbuilt kits out there have found their final home! Really past builder price and into collector market unfortunately, glad I picked a few up when they were not quite so daft.

Kaj45rpm
08-13-2013, 04:48 PM
It's a very basic kit as well. I can't understand why Tamiya can't resurrect these old kits by converting into a rally car model. A Colin Mc Rae version would be fantastic. Sadly I can't see it happening.

Luckily I bought my recent Sierra kit at a model show for 8!

stevenoble
08-13-2013, 06:15 PM
It's a very basic kit as well. I can't understand why Tamiya can't resurrect these old kits by converting into a rally car model. A Colin Mc Rae version would be fantastic. Sadly I can't see it happening.

Luckily I bought my recent Sierra kit at a model show for 8!


That was a real bargain at 8..!!!! I got outbid on one just the other day on eBay at 51. I saw one recently fetch over 150 which is silly money. I agree that Tamiya should re-release the Sierra kits and the Escort Cosworths, I can't see any reason why it should be so difficult to do that...

RonCla
08-13-2013, 11:29 PM
That was a real bargain at 8..!!!! I got outbid on one just the other day on eBay at 51. I saw one recently fetch over 150 which is silly money. I agree that Tamiya should re-release the Sierra kits and the Escort Cosworths, I can't see any reason why it should be so difficult to do that...

Spot Model had a private run of the Tamiya Ford Escort RS Cosworth produced minus decals.

They are shown on their website as being available at 28.04 Euro taxes excluded

Fangi0
08-14-2013, 01:40 AM
Spot Model had a private run of the Tamiya Ford Escort RS Cosworth produced minus decals.

They are shown on their website as being available at 28.04 Euro taxes excluded

I believe they are selling kits from the run that Domino commissioned.

petesy
08-14-2013, 05:05 PM
Ford is not very popular in Japan, so I doubt they will get re-released any time soon. The Escort can be found in Yahoo Japan auction quite frequently, there are several listed there right now. The Sierra also comes up from time to time.

I bought several of the Sierra kits (both the XR4i and the Cosworth) in a lot from Japan a few years ago, I might be able to part with one or two of them. Other than the colour of the plastic both Cosworth kits are exactly the same. The decal is hopeless though, those form the original issues yellow quite badly.

kopek
08-14-2013, 07:13 PM
Hi, confirm that the Eggenberger has both mirrors and the small lip on the upper wing. In fact, knocked the rear wing off in checking!

I have the Eggenberger decals if anyone is interested, post here and pm. me. Reasonable condition for the age but not the tyre decals, which as has been posted here before, disintegrated, or the Ludwig names.

Used to have one of these, great fun to drive, fantastic performance, brakes, roadholding but a rattlely, squeaky Ford body! So built the kit as road version on the out side. Took 15 years to finish, rather longer than the car will have lasted.

jk.

generationx
08-15-2013, 06:20 PM
Used to have one of these, great fun to drive, fantastic performance, brakes, roadholding but a rattlely, squeaky Ford body! So built the kit as road version on the out side. Took 15 years to finish, rather longer than the car will have lasted.

jk.

Yes I had a "normal" white Sierra RS Cosworth back in the day, with 300+ bhp. Great fun to drive (and I did, every day with quite high mileage) but is was PROPERLY expensive to run.

I still have it, tucked away, waiting for the right time to re-emerge... :naughty:

racer93
08-15-2013, 10:08 PM
Yes I had a "normal" white Sierra RS Cosworth back in the day, with 300+ bhp. Great fun to drive (and I did, every day with quite high mileage) but is was PROPERLY expensive to run.

I still have it, tucked away, waiting for the right time to re-emerge... :naughty:
Wow, 300+ BHP? Yikes! What kind of modifications did you do to it? What was it stock? I have a Mazdaspeed3 with about 320hp at the crank, probably 290 or so bhp. Was it AWD or RWD?

I'm jealous, genx!:crying:

gomezan94
08-15-2013, 10:34 PM
I guess it's the original condition.http://denver.ukmerritt.com/03.jpg

generationx
08-20-2013, 12:57 PM
Wow, 300+ BHP? Yikes! What kind of modifications did you do to it? What was it stock? I have a Mazdaspeed3 with about 320hp at the crank, probably 290 or so bhp. Was it AWD or RWD?

I'm jealous, genx!:crying:

Group A cylinder head, big boost, big injectors, Group A rally exhaust, 17" wheels etc etc. RWD. Noisy, uncivilised, rude, awesome.

racer93
08-20-2013, 01:45 PM
Group A cylinder head, big boost, big injectors, Group A rally exhaust, 17" wheels etc etc. RWD. Noisy, uncivilised, rude, awesome.
That car sounds like a BLAST to drive! I bet you could light the rears up pretty well! :iceslolan

What year was it? Did you race it or was it your "fun car"?

generationx
08-20-2013, 04:06 PM
It was a 1986 Sierra RS Cosworth, and my road car, I used it to go to work. Happy days...

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