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AirBrush for Beginner Question!


avd
07-07-2013, 01:47 AM
Hey guys. I have a question What is the best airbrush to get? I don't want to spend expensive airbrush cause that would be over my budget. Here is the link I was about to get. If this not great, What other kind that are good?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-3-Airbrush-Compressor-Kit-Dual-Action-Spray-Air-Brush-Set-Tattoo-Nail-Art-/320799334265?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab1215f79
I was about to get this since this one sold a lot. But idk if it's good to paint on cars or not.

tonioseven
07-07-2013, 01:53 AM
I started with Paasche H. I still use it. With some practice, I was able to do this with it.

http://images15.fotki.com/v1626/photos/8/897838/9817750/70-vi.jpg


The tool is only as good as the wielder.

Vric
07-07-2013, 06:57 AM
Best and cheapest don't go along. 3 airbrush and a compressor for $109 will not be as good as a paasche, badger or iwata aibrush that cost more than this for the airbrush alone.

I use an Iwata hp-cp, but it will cost you about $200 for the airbrush alone. And it's not even "the best".

My first was a badger anthem 155. Should be around $80

JeremyJon
07-07-2013, 07:19 AM
agreed, raise your budget a bit, say $200, and get the quality airbrush from the start, so you're learning on it & can utilize it long term, rather than thinking 'I can buy a better one later & learn on this cheap one'

this is a decent ebay seller I've used, sells some packages also, with good return policy

this is a Paasche H set they sell
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Paasche-H-SET-Single-Action-AIRBRUSH-KIT-Hobby-Craft-/390619595789?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af2be040d

or an Iwata complete set with compressor, dryer, regulator, for example
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IWATA-Eclipse-HP-BCS-AIRBRUSH-KIT-w-COMPRESSOR-AIR-HOSE-/390611274783?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af23f0c1f

Hemi Killer
07-07-2013, 08:32 AM
As a airbrush user for several years who still considers myself a beginner, don't skimp on the compressor either.

You want a moisture trap and a pressure regulator

As far as the airbrush, get one that has a good reputation. If you were hoping to spend $40-$50, but find a good one for $80, get it over with and just get it. You can grow into it and use it for a long time. Like Tonio showed, he still uses the one he started with.

Also, some can handle certain solvents and some can't. Make sure you know what your airbrush can take. For example, I ruined my Paasche seals with lacquer thinner, but my new one can handle it.

I would definitely go with something the guys recommend on this forum, they know what they're doing.

lovegt40
07-07-2013, 09:11 AM
Hansa Harder. stainless steel and incredibly good.
mine is 10 yrs old and still works perfectly with everything.

the airbrush is as a coffee machine. more u use it, more coffee comes good. ;)

avd
07-07-2013, 01:01 PM
Wow Tough decision lol. Well what everybody tells me whatever is the best on forums I'll go for it.


agreed, raise your budget a bit, say $200, and get the quality airbrush from the start, so you're learning on it & can utilize it long term, rather than thinking 'I can buy a better one later & learn on this cheap one'

this is a decent ebay seller I've used, sells some packages also, with good return policy

this is a Paasche H set they sell
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Paasche-H-SET-Single-Action-AIRBRUSH-KIT-Hobby-Craft-/390619595789?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af2be040d

or an Iwata complete set with compressor, dryer, regulator, for example
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IWATA-Eclipse-HP-BCS-AIRBRUSH-KIT-w-COMPRESSOR-AIR-HOSE-/390611274783?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5af23f0c1f

Yeah I'm looking for a set with compressor and other stuff so I don't have to buy separately. So the one you sent me link is the best one to get for beginner?

Vric
07-07-2013, 05:34 PM
I'm not a fan of bottom feed airbrush, but that's a matter of taste.

I would go with an iwata HP-CS kit like this one: (using a seller mentioned higher in this thread, you can check for better price)

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IWATA-HP-CS-Eclipse-AIRBRUSH-w-COMPRESSOR-KIT-Air-Brush-/141005348530?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d492deb2

You would have basically everything you ever need in this set.

avd
07-07-2013, 08:33 PM
I'm not a fan of bottom feed airbrush, but that's a matter of taste.

I would go with an iwata HP-CS kit like this one: (using a seller mentioned higher in this thread, you can check for better price)

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IWATA-HP-CS-Eclipse-AIRBRUSH-w-COMPRESSOR-KIT-Air-Brush-/141005348530?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d492deb2

You would have basically everything you ever need in this set.

That one look nice and decent. But I'm might buy next week for my next paycheck. :biggrin:

JeremyJon
07-07-2013, 09:16 PM
Wow Tough decision lol. Well what everybody tells me whatever is the best on forums I'll go for it.
Yeah I'm looking for a set with compressor and other stuff so I don't have to buy separately. So the one you sent me link is the best one to get for beginner?

Just a couple of examples I pulled from that seller, about the two brand names being spoken about, Paasche and Iwata
I didn't go through all their listings, there might be a better combo, personally I prefer a gravity feed dual action type
There is possible other sellers with same type of packages, but I posted this one because that's who I ordered from, and had no problems
Definitely a package complete like that is the best way to start IMO, and to budget for the best you can afford from the start
:)

avd
07-07-2013, 10:43 PM
Just a couple of examples I pulled from that seller, about the two brand names being spoken about, Paasche and Iwata
I didn't go through all their listings, there might be a better combo, personally I prefer a gravity feed dual action type
There is possible other sellers with same type of packages, but I posted this one because that's who I ordered from, and had no problems
Definitely a package complete like that is the best way to start IMO, and to budget for the best you can afford from the start
:)

Oh okay. Thanks. I'll try get one of those brand.

Vric
07-07-2013, 11:14 PM
Iwata is near "top of the line" brand while Paasche is "great bang for the buck". Both are great, but iwata is higher quality (except the Neo line, which is made cheaper)

nascar49
07-08-2013, 12:05 AM
Iwata is near "top of the line" brand while Paasche is "great bang for the buck". Both are great, but iwata is higher quality (except the Neo line, which is made cheaper)
I thought I read that NEO line was to be like a beginner series range.

I have nothing really add, I use a Habor Freight A/B and Compressor, double action, it works, does what I ask it to , with little problems, for me, my only use for a A/B is for painting bodys, parts, and it does that fine.

If I were to keep it clean better, I wouldnt have any problems with it all I think :lol:

Vric
07-08-2013, 07:36 AM
I thought I read that NEO line was to be like a beginner series range.


Exactly. It's made by another brand than iwata, they just rebrand it on their name. It's good, just not up to Iwata standard. And while you are paying nearly $80 for it, you are usually less than $40 shy from an Eclipse which is a great airbrush. Worth saving for the upgrade

Culebra
07-08-2013, 05:00 PM
Yeah I'm looking for a set with compressor and other stuff so I don't have to buy separately. So the one you sent me link is the best one to get for beginner?

A "beginner" status won't last long :)
So eventually you gonna spend more while upgrading your stuff
And you will feel the need for upgrade pretty soon
I would recomend to get the things that you still will be happy to use in couple of years from now- Iwata Eclipse is a decent choice

JeremyJon
07-08-2013, 07:48 PM
Anyone using Sparmax products?

From what I read, the Iwata and Simair are the Sparmax, but relabeled

JeremyJon
07-08-2013, 08:11 PM
here's an interesting beginners setup, about $200, Iwata brush + compressor

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-Iwata-Madea-Silver-Jet-Air-Compressor-IS50-NIB-/330745985727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d01ff3abf

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Iwata-Madea-Studio-Series-Silver-Jet-Air-Compressor-IS-50-/190826193397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6e20a1f5

Vric
07-08-2013, 09:41 PM
here's an interesting beginners setup, about $200, Iwata brush + compressor

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-Iwata-Madea-Silver-Jet-Air-Compressor-IS50-NIB-/330745985727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d01ff3abf

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Iwata-Madea-Studio-Series-Silver-Jet-Air-Compressor-IS-50-/190826193397?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6e20a1f5

It's only the compressor, and it's not very flexible one

JeremyJon
07-08-2013, 09:46 PM
True, but can buy as packages with brushes too, it's a beginners setup, don't expect loaded with features, add an external regulator for more adjustment, Iwata & Badger have more models than this example

JeremyJon
07-08-2013, 10:20 PM
Here's a better example, a complete kit, Iwata components, also based in north America, so AVD or others here can find easy shipping
http://www.coastairbrush.com/products.asp?cat=803

For anyone who hasn't already seen this page, Don's reviews are excellent, and unbiased
https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/home

avd
07-08-2013, 11:26 PM
Okay forget beginner. What is the best and cheapest that last really long time but don't wanna spend that over my budget.

JeremyJon
07-09-2013, 12:01 AM
Okay forget beginner. What is the best and cheapest that last really long time but don't wanna spend that over my budget.


Take a read through Don's page and his reviews, is a great place to start
https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/first-airbrush
https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/

hirofkd
07-09-2013, 07:29 AM
>>avd
Since you are in Fort Worth, you might be able to get a nice Iwata for 40% off with an online coupon at a nearby Hobby Lobby or Michaels. The coupon is only good for one item, but you can print more than one, and checkout several times at different stores on the same day.

avd
07-09-2013, 09:25 AM
>>avd
Since you are in Fort Worth, you might be able to get a nice Iwata for 40% off with an online coupon at a nearby Hobby Lobby or Michaels. The coupon is only good for one item, but you can print more than one, and checkout several times at different stores on the same day.

Really? I never knew that. I'm gonna check that out thanks.

avd
07-12-2013, 04:46 PM
Okay So I went to Hobby Lobby and got this compressor and got 40% discount coupon which is good.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/viet8boi/F473CABA-0E23-4793-8E8F-50358E6BE558-40900-000004622AC7206B.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/viet8boi/media/F473CABA-0E23-4793-8E8F-50358E6BE558-40900-000004622AC7206B.jpg.html)
The problem is it didn't came with airbrush :banghead::banghead::banghead:
So does anyone know what is best airbrush out there? or may there a link someone just post earlier that I need to check again.

JeremyJon
07-12-2013, 05:55 PM
read up before you buy :slap:

Take a read through Don's page and his reviews, is a great place to start
https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/first-airbrush
https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/

Vric
07-12-2013, 06:05 PM
for modeling, iwata eclipse is a good choice. Not "the best", but plenty for what you need.

As for your Ninja jet compressor, it will do the job nicely too, but I'm not a fan. For the price of it (if paid more than $120), you don't have any real regulation (just air bleed) and no moisture trap. But it's quite silent.

It's a good one, Iwata make great product (I have a SmartJet compressor with a paasche regulator that I love) but it's a bit small on feature.

You might want to get a moisture trap Pistol Grip. It's a bit useless when you have one on the compressor, but since you don't have any on this one, it can help I guess.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iwata-Medea-Airbrush-Pistol-Grip-Filter-Moisture-Trap-Handle-Clean-Dry-Air-/330790777808

P.S. reading is always a good idea before spending money.

avd
07-12-2013, 07:31 PM
read up before you buy :slap:

Read it and I keep thinking myself, but since I saw in store and might buy right away plus closer to my house is okay to spend little more than buying online. Later on will upgrade in future.

for modeling, iwata eclipse is a good choice. Not "the best", but plenty for what you need.

As for your Ninja jet compressor, it will do the job nicely too, but I'm not a fan. For the price of it (if paid more than $120), you don't have any real regulation (just air bleed) and no moisture trap. But it's quite silent.

It's a good one, Iwata make great product (I have a SmartJet compressor with a paasche regulator that I love) but it's a bit small on feature.

You might want to get a moisture trap Pistol Grip. It's a bit useless when you have one on the compressor, but since you don't have any on this one, it can help I guess.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Iwata-Medea-Airbrush-Pistol-Grip-Filter-Moisture-Trap-Handle-Clean-Dry-Air-/330790777808

P.S. reading is always a good idea before spending money.

Way ahead lol. Just got this too including pistol grip filter. I also use coupon to get another 40% discount
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o33/viet8boi/F1CD15F6-FFD0-4BA7-8534-E730090D4869-40900-0000046C84E759E2.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/viet8boi/media/F1CD15F6-FFD0-4BA7-8534-E730090D4869-40900-0000046C84E759E2.jpg.html)

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