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viperofoz
05-09-2013, 04:18 AM
Check out Aoshima's latest announcement on their facebook page.... well its more of a teaser at this stage, rather than an announcement.

Mclaren F1 maybe?.... Or better still an F1 GTR ?? :grinyes:

Or possibly a Mclaren P1?

looking forward to the actual announcement.


Heres what they had to say for those who don't use facebook

"Ever since we created Facebook page, we have been listening to the voice of our fans and modelers...we always reflect your opinions and requests to our products as much as we can...
Now, we are happy to let you know that we can finally bring you a great news of our new Super car model kit to be announced at Shizuoka Hobby Show starting from 16th May!!
The project of this Super car model kit was commenced as early as in July 2012, since then we have been working hard to recre...ate as much authenticity which 1/24 scale permits as possible, for example, by visiting "M" company for research on actual car.

Just one thing we would like our fans to know is : We plan, make, develop our products not for business competition, but for simple pleasure to see our fans and modelers enjoy our products and have a wonderful moment building them at their precious leisure time!!

We really can not wait for the moment that we can make the name of the car available to the general public at the show!!

Please just allow us a week, and we believe, and hope, the news will make not only our fans but also all the car modelers excited a lotSee more!!"

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601826_604368999573670_377271354_n.jpg

(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=604368999573670&set=a.383511998326039.98001.383251378352101&type=1&relevant_count=1)

Regards, Dan

petesy
05-09-2013, 04:38 AM
I guess that explains Fujimi's announcement of the F1 out of the blues?

Aoshima was originally not supposed to announce this mysterious kit until at least June, maybe Fujimi forced their hands this time.

jano11
05-09-2013, 06:32 AM
Great news, however I wish they would stop copying eachother and give us different supercar kits, there are enough of them that have never been available in plastic kit form.

ZoomZoomMX-5
05-09-2013, 08:30 AM
We shall see. Would be rather ironic for 2 companies to suddenly do the F1. Their message seems to say everything but that it's the F1. I know I was one of the ones that told them on their FB page to do the car, and their response to those of us asking for it was surprisingly positive.

That said, they all did GTR's, Aoshima/Tamiya did BRZ/86....it happens.

I have a preorder for the Fujimi....and if Aoshima announce, I'll get that too. I could easily build 3-4 of them, so I could spread the wealth.

JeremyJon
05-09-2013, 09:18 AM
it's good to see them compete against one another, as it raises the level of quality expected in my opinion

i'm just happy we're finally getting a McLaren F1 in 1:24 plastic! :)

sky1911
05-09-2013, 11:52 AM
Well in case they do the big Mac, too. Yes it would raise the competition and probably also quality standards. But look at it this way. By then 3 companies are going to do the same car - all wanting you to buy theirs. Most customers who like the car won't pick up all three - so in an ideal world the sales to potential Macca lovers would be split equally into 3 (assuming they are the same quality standard) - none of them making enough to make much (if any) of a profit. If one of the kits is considerably worse than the others, that manufacturer won't make anything out of it (unless the other two are way more expensive).
So in a way competition can be good for us, but it can also work against us. It's the same with movies, suddenly there's 2 Robin Hood movies - both are ok, but one has the bigger names in it...Guess, which one tanks...

lezdep
05-09-2013, 12:09 PM
I think Fujimi is the one guilty here. Last time they spooked Aoshima with a announcement of FW14B and Aoshima decided not to enter 1/20 market,
which was a big loss for us, model builders. I think after successful competition against Fujimi with better Aventador model kit, Aoshima has more
confidence now to go head to head with Fujimi. I personally hope the announcement will be for rumored earlier McLaren F1 long tail car. This way
they will not have to compete with Fujimi with the same kit and we will have better coverage of F1 lineup. If it is a short tail F1 road car, I will
likely wait for Aoshima version, because I expect it to have better detail and accuracy level compared to Fujimi's offering.

Actually long tail version was closely based on original short tail car, mostly body panel changes. I think one of 2 companies could even change kit
design quickly and release different version of the car. Most of the design work would be valid and could be re-used. Same goes for F1-GTR cars. They
were quite close to production cars as well, with relatively small set of modifications. Let's hope Fujimi and Aoshima will figure a way to coexist
peacefully on the marker and release more great kits for us.

drunken monkey
05-09-2013, 12:42 PM
listening to fans eh?
does that mean we need more talk about Lotus cars?

Elise, Exige, Europa, Evora.

leafs004
05-09-2013, 12:57 PM
Great news, however I wish they would stop copying eachother and give us different supercar kits, there are enough of them that have never been available in plastic kit form.

Two thoughts about the copying. First, the companies don't share what they're developing, so they may both be working on the car, then suddenly one makes an announcement and unless the second company wants to shelve the model and development cost, they go ahead and also release their model. We saw this with both the Lotus 79 and Nissan GT-R.

Second, when I wondered why it seems every model company has a B-17 kit. Wouldn't resources be better utilized with more selection? Then I was reminded that Revell makes $0 on every B-17 kit that the competition makes.

nugundam93
05-09-2013, 02:26 PM
i do hope it's the mclaren f1. more choices for us, hopefully it gets the details right :)

BVC500
05-09-2013, 04:07 PM
Like I said in the Fujimi F1 post, let's hope for these door with integrated mirrors, or at least an aftermarket company producing a set. This car belongs to Ralph Lauren, and the story goes that he sent the car back to McLaren to have them fabricate these doors with integrated mirrors, since the car he had bought had fender-mounted mirrors. A small detail to be worried about in the grand scheme of things, but looks so much better.

On another but related note...remember how we wished for, and how long it took, for a company to produce the Ferrari 550/575?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/BVC500/16a_1996McLaren_l_zpsaf03e4d6.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/BVC500/media/16a_1996McLaren_l_zpsaf03e4d6.jpg.html)

MidMazar
05-09-2013, 06:11 PM
Great news but do agree with others why make the same model another company is making. And they are making it for fans that will pay. The good news is going to be that we will have the choice of chosing between two. This is another reason why they shouldn't make a car that another company makes, because one of them will have a inferior product and lose money. For instance the Aventador, many get the aoshima as its slightly better quality than fujimi.

But big thumbs up to both fujimi and aoshima because i for one can't afford the MFH kits but can afford a few of these!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Thanks for the post.

lovegt40
05-10-2013, 04:23 AM
it's a M....M.... MATIZ ! :D
http://www.matiz.sitepro.ro/matiz_tuning_image2.jpg

stratos75
05-10-2013, 05:22 PM
...since then we have been working hard to recre...ate as much authenticity which 1/24 scale permits as possible, for example, by visiting "M" company for research on actual car.

...
Regards, Dan
This fact tells us that this car hasn't a CAD model. There is need at first to scan the actual car if it's an old one. Very possibly this is the McLaren F1, because its body and interior was made by hand. Will see. Only 6 days left.

I'm not preodered the Fujimi's McLaren yet. I will wait.

Some_Kid
05-10-2013, 05:41 PM
I think it's fantastic that we now have two different choices for the same coveted car we've been waiting a long time for in 1/24. I hope they will release Land Rover Discovery soon!.

stratos75
05-11-2013, 10:14 AM
Like I said in the Fujimi F1 post, let's hope for these door with integrated mirrors, or at least an aftermarket company producing a set. This car belongs to Ralph Lauren, and the story goes that he sent the car back to McLaren to have them fabricate these doors with integrated mirrors, since the car he had bought had fender-mounted mirrors. A small detail to be worried about in the grand scheme of things, but looks so much better.

On another but related note...remember how we wished for, and how long it took, for a company to produce the Ferrari 550/575?

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x82/BVC500/16a_1996McLaren_l_zpsaf03e4d6.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/BVC500/media/16a_1996McLaren_l_zpsaf03e4d6.jpg.html)

These mirrors are from BMW Z1 with modified sticks. For me it's not a difficult to copy them from Revell's BMW Z1 and to fix it to the McLaren's doors.

BVC500: Special for you. This is just a quick installing by means of a child plasticine. :smokin:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5645/14224223.37/0_861fb_9d7de22e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/549371/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5628/14224223.37/0_861fc_58258e60_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/549372/)

The mirrors looks not the best, but I can correct the shape for a better similarity (more sharp horizontal rib). If you want I can make a copy for you.

ng_nmda
05-11-2013, 10:37 AM
Thumbs up to Aoshima for listening to us modelers and release a kit we've been waiting for so long. Hopefully their kit will have more details and better quality than Fujimi's offerings, like they did with the Aventador.

BVC500
05-11-2013, 12:41 PM
These mirrors are from BMW Z1 with modified sticks. For me it's not a difficult to copy them from Revell's BMW Z1 and to fix it to the McLaren's doors.

BVC500: Special for you. This is just a quick installing by means of a child plasticine. :smokin:
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5645/14224223.37/0_861fb_9d7de22e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/549371/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5628/14224223.37/0_861fc_58258e60_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/549372/)

The mirrors looks not the best, but I can correct the shape for a better similarity (more sharp horizontal rib). If you want I can make a copy for you.

That would be awesome!

hirofkd
05-11-2013, 10:14 PM
I feel like there are more than one super car kits in progress, the one hinted at their English Facebook page, and the other on Japanese blog. I see a rear wing in the teaser below. Could it be the LM version, or a completely different car?
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/misc/aosnews3_zps0659fe42.jpg

ng_nmda
05-12-2013, 01:21 AM
I feel like there are more than one super car kits in progress, the one hinted at their English Facebook page, and the other on Japanese blog. I see a rear wing in the teaser below. Could it be the LM version, or a completely different car?
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b258/hirofkd/misc/aosnews3_zps0659fe42.jpg

Just read Aoshima's Japanese blog (using a translator). They gave hints that they'll release the road car first, followed by other versions in the future. Hope they'll eventually release both the short tail and long tail race cars.

http://ameblo.jp/aoshima-kumablog/

Cheers

hirofkd
05-12-2013, 02:08 AM
Just read Aoshima's Japanese blog (using a translator). They gave hints that they'll release the road car first, followed by other versions in the future. Hope they'll eventually release both the short tail and long tail race cars.

http://ameblo.jp/aoshima-kumablog/

Cheers
The blogger is wondering whether "Fujimi" will release other versions or not.
In any case, we'll find out more in four days.

Fkouch
05-12-2013, 07:54 AM
You'd think after ten years of waiting, I could wait another 4 days... but I can't. :(

stratos75
05-12-2013, 08:00 AM
You'd think after ten years of waiting, I could wait another 4 days... but I can't. :(
I'm waiting it already twenty years, since 1993!

ng_nmda
05-12-2013, 08:46 AM
The blogger is wondering whether "Fujimi" will release other versions or not.
In any case, we'll find out more in four days.

Thanks for the correction! As the sentence concerned showed up on a separate paragraph on my browser, I thought Aoshima is planning to release other versions.

I too have been drooling over building a 1/24 scale of the Big Mac, ever since I saw it on car magazines back in 1994-95.

ZoomZoomMX-5
05-12-2013, 08:55 AM
In addition to the (still not guaranteed...) McLaren F1, didn't Aoshima show a photo of an Aventador J late last year?

And I have to think that a McLaren P1 might be coming as well, it would only make sense.

Then all we'd "need" are the Veyron, LaFerrari, and possibly the Veneno as a wild card...:runaround:

Fkouch
05-12-2013, 09:08 AM
Yup, these F1 models are LONG overdue. Still can't believe a plastic model of it is actually here. I hope Fujimi and Aoshima sell a gazillion of these, just to prove they should have done it alot earlier.

Just hope I don't have to wait another 10 years for a Koenigsegg. :(

flyonthewall
05-12-2013, 04:50 PM
Aoshima have been posting pixelated pics of their upcoming releases, one looks suspiciously like the Celica ST165 rally car (one of my all time faves :)), the other is much harder to make out. But, if you squint your eyes enough, you can vaguely make out the shape - looks like a Le Man prototype to me.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=605009082842995&set=a.383511998326039.98001.383251378352101&type=1&relevant_count=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=605314832812420&set=a.383511998326039.98001.383251378352101&type=1&theater

360spider
05-12-2013, 06:27 PM
I wish it was an M. As in BMW ///M.

challange stradale
05-14-2013, 04:18 AM
HLJ is announcing the Fujimi McLaren for a while:
http://www.hlj.com/product/fuj12573

Kaj45rpm
05-14-2013, 04:39 AM
Not so excited about a F1 big Mac, but that Celica ST165 does make my banana dance! Great news.

23skyline
05-14-2013, 08:52 AM
I've been trying to figure out what the other car is, looks to me like a 1973 BMW 3.0 CSL or some silhouette type thing.

Let's just hope that "M" company is in fact McLaren and not Mazda (nothing against Mazda):evillol:

nascar49
05-14-2013, 04:11 PM
I've been trying to figure out what the other car is, looks to me like a 1973 BMW 3.0 CSL or some silhouette type thing.

Let's just hope that "M" company is in fact McLaren and not Mazda (nothing against Mazda):evillol:

I hope its not Mclaren, I hope its something different

jano11
05-15-2013, 05:57 PM
We will know it tomorrow, well in a few hours, anyway.

teoteo
05-15-2013, 09:11 PM
Macralen f1 gtr longtail

zemmix
05-15-2013, 10:39 PM
Macralen f1 gtr longtail

Are you at the show? Or has it been shown online? Shows been open for an hour and a half now.

teoteo
05-15-2013, 10:50 PM
Are you at the show? Or has it been shown online? Shows been open for an hour and a half now.

Show already started and photos are on twitter
F1 from Fujimi and GTR1997 from Aoshima

BullittStang
05-15-2013, 10:55 PM
Kind of a let down. Not really a big fan of the long tail. Would have preferred a 1995 or 1996 GTR.

hirofkd
05-15-2013, 11:05 PM
http://photozou.jp/photo/show/337861/177598899
Simplified version of the Aventador kit reportedly didn't sell very well, and Aoshima designer is quoted by saying that they'll have to adjust the business strategy, so we'll most likely get the BMW V12 engine.
I wonder if either Aoshima or Fujimi learned of their intent to make the McLaren. Both companies outsource the tooling, so it's nearly impossible to keep everything secret. Maybe one of them got an inside info, and decided to avoid a conflict.

Added: Three versions from three companies all in the same year...sounds too good as a mere coincidence.

lezdep
05-15-2013, 11:13 PM
Kind of a let down. Not really a big fan of the long tail. Would have preferred a 1995 or 1996 GTR.
I would expect Fujimi to make 1995/1996 F1-GTR, if road version sells well. Besides Fujimi is known
for following good sales of MFH kits with their own plastic versions.

lezdep
05-15-2013, 11:15 PM
http://photozou.jp/photo/show/337861/177598899
Simplified version of the Aventador kit reportedly didn't sell very well, and Aoshima designer is quoted by saying that they'll have to adjust the business strategy, so we'll most likely get the BMW V12 engine.
I wonder if either Aoshima or Fujimi learned of their intent to make the McLaren. Both companies outsource the tooling, so it's nearly impossible to keep everything secret. Maybe one of them got an inside info, and decided to avoid a conflict.I hope lessons were learnt by both companies. Full detail F1-GTR is much better then curbside or semi-detail. McLaren F1 deserves it !

JeremyJon
05-16-2013, 12:07 AM
I hope lessons were learnt by both companies. Full detail F1-GTR is much better then curbside or semi-detail. McLaren F1 deserves it !

+1 it would be a shame to wait all this time, and lack for detailed kit!

pics from link ^^ hirofkd thank you, photos by: http://twitter.com/heid_lan (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fheid_lan&h=8AQFxoGEb)

tonioseven
05-16-2013, 01:59 AM
Dang, I'm late with the pictures. Lol.

http://kura1.photozou.jp/pub/861/337861/photo/177598899_624.v1368679936.jpg

BVC500
05-16-2013, 03:40 AM
Spread the wealth, I suppose??

For me who builds roadcars solely, Aoshima's announcement was a let down, and I just placed my order for the Fujimi McLaren. I was let down because 1) I was thinking that Aoshima would make a better kit than Fujimi (maybe not true given Fujimi's latest solid effort, the very nice Ferrari F12) and 2) I don't consider the F1 GTR Longtail a "supercar" as announced by Aoshima. A "supercar" implies an expensive, powerful road car. The longtail is a race car, not a supercar. So, Aoshima made two announcements - race and rally cars.

I wonder how the market will react.

viperofoz
05-16-2013, 04:45 AM
I for one, am very thankful for this kit.

I do agree that this is a race car rather than a supercar, but I'm not going to split hairs.


Just leave the decals off, slap on some number plates like this one from Goodwood 2005.... and there's your supercar. :naughty:
(from wiki)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/McLaren_F1_GTR.jpg/800px-McLaren_F1_GTR.jpg

Regards, Dan

Hoellemeister
05-16-2013, 05:36 AM
McLaren produced, if I'm not wrong, 3 Longtail road cars.

Fkouch
05-16-2013, 05:52 AM
I've got to be honest. I'm disappointed. :( If the Fujimi was full detail then I'd be okay with the Longtail, but now... oh well.

stratos75
05-16-2013, 05:53 AM
Spread the wealth, I suppose??

For me who builds roadcars solely, Aoshima's announcement was a let down, and I just placed my order for the Fujimi McLaren. I was let down because 1) I was thinking that Aoshima would make a better kit than Fujimi (maybe not true given Fujimi's latest solid effort, the very nice Ferrari F12) and 2) I don't consider the F1 GTR Longtail a "supercar" as announced by Aoshima. A "supercar" implies an expensive, powerful road car. The longtail is a race car, not a supercar. So, Aoshima made two announcements - race and rally cars.

I wonder how the market will react.
I completely agree with you Bernard concerning point 1. I'm forced to preorder a Fujimi kit.
Concerning point 2 I'm not fully agree, because three production cars called McLaren F1 GT were built. Though you are right, Aoshima has introduced a race car.

lemansnut
05-16-2013, 09:03 AM
Really people? Earlier in this thread there were complaints about why two companies have to make kits of the same car. Now we're complaining that we're getting both a road car and a long tail race version? After waiting 20 years for this to come out in plastic, I couldn't be happier!!!

Mike

BullittStang
05-16-2013, 09:07 AM
Really people? Earlier in this thread there were complaints about why two companies have to make kits of the same car. Now we're complaining that we're getting both a road car and a long tail race version? After waiting 20 years for this to come out in plastic, I couldn't be happier!!!

Mike

My complaint is that I wanted the short tail race version. I'm sure Hobby Design or Studio 27 will release a trans-kit to turn the Fujimi McLaren into a GTR, just would have preferred it in plastic.

Fkouch
05-16-2013, 09:31 AM
Really people? Earlier in this thread there were complaints about why two companies have to make kits of the same car. Now we're complaining that we're getting both a road car and a long tail race version? After waiting 20 years for this to come out in plastic, I couldn't be happier!!!

Mike


Yes, really. I'm glad we're getting plastic versions of the Mclaren, and I may even get the Longtail aswell. But to say I'm not disappointed would be a lie. I've waited a long time for a full detail F1 Mclaren Road Car, in plastic, and I thought my wait was over.

ZoomZoomMX-5
05-16-2013, 09:56 AM
Have some of you lost your minds? Really...we barely know anything about either the Fujimi and the Aoshima kits...the first variants of each...and we're already crying because we think that's it? That there won't be more variants coming? Really? Y'know, Fujimi and Aoshima are masters at bringing out a kit, and then countless variations.

Be patient. I'm sure you'll get what you want eventually.

Even if that might mean purchasing from Model Factory Hiro.

Suddenly we're getting not one but two different plastic F1's, and instead of it being good news, it's :runaround: :crying: :runaround:

Don't worry, guys in the US are just the same when it comes to American cars...announce a new model, it's never enough. "I demand they make the esoteric old boring sedan that I want, because I can't afford resin and am on disability and food stamps, so Revell/AMT/Moebius must invest $300,000 to make a boring old model of a boring old car that I want so I can pay $10 for it at Walmart" mentality. Another day in the hobby :lol:

Fkouch
05-16-2013, 10:14 AM
Have some of you lost your minds? Really...we barely know anything about either the Fujimi and the Aoshima kits...the first variants of each...and we're already crying because we think that's it? That there won't be more variants coming? Really? Y'know, Fujimi and Aoshima are masters at bringing out a kit, and then countless variations.

Be patient. I'm sure you'll get what you want eventually.

Even if that might mean purchasing from Model Factory Hiro.

Suddenly we're getting not one but two different plastic F1's, and instead of it being good news, it's :runaround: :crying: :runaround:

Don't worry, guys in the US are just the same when it comes to American cars...announce a new model, it's never enough. "I demand they make the esoteric old boring sedan that I want, because I can't afford resin and am on disability and food stamps, so Revell/AMT/Moebius must invest $300,000 to make a boring old model of a boring old car that I want so I can pay $10 for it at Walmart" mentality. Another day in the hobby :lol:

I don't see anyone crying. I've still pre-ordered the Fujimi Mclaren, and like I said, I'll probably get the longtail aswell. Doesn't mean I can't be disappointed.

I hope you're right about the variants, I really do. But we shouldn't have to resort to buying the MFH version.

I guess the wait goes on.

leafs004
05-16-2013, 11:33 AM
The question for me will be depending on liveries, how many of these McLaren F1's will I get? It could end up like my Porsche 956 group currently featuring five different versions of the same car.

alvarol
05-16-2013, 11:49 AM
Well, it's official now...these are the models we've been waiting for.:naughty:

alvarol
05-16-2013, 11:50 AM
...tchã-tchã!

Some_Kid
05-16-2013, 11:52 AM
They should have come out with it a long time ago. The Mclaren has lost a lot of it's luster since the 90s in my opinion. Still cool that they finally made it.

Ef_modeller
05-16-2013, 12:05 PM
Dang!!:banghead::banghead:
Anybody interested in buying a couple of Studio27 kits?, bargain?

EF.

eyckles
05-16-2013, 12:12 PM
Yeah. Great news. Lets hope Studio27 or Tabu release the Gulf/Davidoff decal set. Great news. Although i have the Studio27 Zuhai Mboro and the MFH Bigazzi, i still want this one. If only somebody would release a good street version, because the Fujimi doesn't look that great to me.

Lesley

stratos75
05-16-2013, 12:27 PM
Sure I will buy one. Very hope that Aoshima will do all other versions.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/976128_607370475940189_1530145718_o.jpg

CrateCruncher
05-16-2013, 12:50 PM
Aoshima says it will be released "later this year 2013" so they probably have a final design at this point. Let's hope they decided to go the complexity route to differentiate from the Fujimi offering with some nice suspension and drivetrain detail. :naughty:

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