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New Pocher 1/8 Aventador


RonCla
01-30-2013, 08:05 AM
Pocher have just announced their new kit is going to be a Lamborghini.

http://www.pocher.com/index_en.html#home

With a 7KG pre painted body its going to be a heavy beast.

Its going to be interesting to see the parts breakdown and the quality of the paint job.

The size of it will certainly give it a presence the smaller scales lack

drunken monkey
01-30-2013, 12:48 PM
I have never considered a big scale kit but if they ever re-release the 993, I might just have to get one.
To be fair, this new Aventador isn't half bad too but the 993 was my perfect car when I were a lad.

mike@af
01-30-2013, 01:58 PM
Oh boy, I cannot wait to see a build thread for one of these!

leafs004
01-30-2013, 03:23 PM
Let's start with seeing the price!

mike@af
01-30-2013, 03:40 PM
Let's start with seeing the price!

Expensive. I'm guessing at least $1000USD if its anything like their previous kits. I wouldn't be surprised if its closer to $1500USD.

MidMazar
01-30-2013, 04:21 PM
To be fair, this new Aventador isn't half bad too but the 993 was my perfect car when I were a lad.

:iagree:

Its nice to see these kits being rereleased along with new ones! That is until you see the price.

RonCla
01-30-2013, 04:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqTO67skOg&feature=youtu.be

da_ashman
01-30-2013, 06:15 PM
WoW!!! looks great but pitys its pre-painted

gp-models
01-30-2013, 08:02 PM
I have never considered a big scale kit but if they ever re-release the 993, I might just have to get one.
To be fair, this new Aventador isn't half bad too but the 993 was my perfect car when I were a lad.
When i checked the autograph side i read that the old Pocher kits will not be re released cause the molds are in bad condition and can`t be used anymore, seems like they where damaged, but not for sure. Check it out
http://www.autographmodel.com/Deutsch/Deutsch.htm

lovegt40
01-31-2013, 06:44 AM
too nice car in a great scale.
This must be a stunner in a car collection. suspect the price is at the level of real lambos..

Tompidom
01-31-2013, 06:58 AM
And theu are back with what i cal a BOOM! Damn i would love to have one of those, Too bad they will probalby be rediculously expensive!

james d
01-31-2013, 05:41 PM
Nice to see Pocher are back. This looks nice but would be a lot better if it was a miura. Would love to see some classic cars and some trucks would be even better

corvettekid_7684
01-31-2013, 07:02 PM
Nice to see Pocher are back. This looks nice but would be a lot better if it was a miura. Would love to see some classic cars and some trucks would be even better

Pretty tough to be this miura...
http://modelrossi.jimdo.com/gallery-kit-lamborghini-miura-sv-scala-1-8/?mobile=1

RonCla
01-31-2013, 07:27 PM
Pretty tough to be this miura...
http://modelrossi.jimdo.com/gallery-kit-lamborghini-miura-sv-scala-1-8/?mobile=1

That is one serious Miura model.

I'm not going to ask what that will cost. I just know I wont be able to afford it.

drunken monkey
01-31-2013, 07:36 PM
Hmm, y'know, I've only ever seen photos of these 1/8 kits and it never occured to me to measure how big it actually would be.

That 911 that I dream of is almost 2 feet in length when built.
That
Is
Massive.

Even if they magicked up a 1/8 993 Turbo , I have nowhere to put a 2 foot long model car. Which puts a question in my mind; we're all pretty much 1/24 builders here and we all know how fiddly it is to work the smaller details into them at that scale. So what would you say is the perfect scale for "proper" detailing? 1/20 like the Tamiya F1 cars? 1/16 like the older Fujimi kits? Is 1/12 like the Tamiya bikes too big?

mike@af
01-31-2013, 07:40 PM
Even if they magicked up a 1/8 993 Turbo , I have nowhere to put a 2 foot long model car. Which puts a question in my mind; we're all pretty much 1/24 builders here and we all know how fiddly it is to work the smaller details into them at that scale. So what would you say is the perfect scale for "proper" detailing? 1/20 like the Tamiya F1 cars? 1/16 like the older Fujimi kits? Is 1/12 like the Tamiya bikes too big?

I think that would make a good thread, DM!

corvettekid_7684
01-31-2013, 08:59 PM
I like the 1/12 Countach kits & am building a second one now, but it does take up a bit of room to build & display. I've never done an 1/8 scale, but would love to get my hands on that Miura.
Are Pocher kits meant to be painted, glued etc.? Or are they just like a nice die cast that needs assembly?

CrateCruncher
02-01-2013, 12:43 AM
I built the Pocher F40, the Bugatti, and about half of an Alfa Monza before giving up on that one. The classic kits are like building a real car. Some have over 2000 parts. There are a lot of metal stampings and screws, things don't fit well and often need to be completely engineered to fit together. But when (if) you finish, you end up with a remarkable model.

The "prestige" kits started with the F-40 then Testarossa, and Porsche. They have a pre-painted diecast body and about 500 injected plastic parts. The engineering is much better but the models lack the detail of the early kits. Most people found the Porsche especially disappointing. Autograph did a great transkit for the F-40 that goes for about $1700. If the Aventador is priced at something reasonable and has nice details maybe someone will make aftermarket items for it too. The real beauty of these cars are in their massive engines but they reside so deep in the beast that they are difficult to see even in 1/8th.

generationx
02-01-2013, 04:30 AM
What a gorgeous model - and BIG! Can't be too hard to strip the paint to choose your own colour.

CrateCruncher
02-01-2013, 01:24 PM
Here is a youtube video of one of the Pocher Mercedes kits that was most probably a recent purchase. The new owner likely plans to disassemble and rebuild the kit at some point. The previous owner got most of the chassis and powertrain finished before losing interest. The construction that has been completed is simple assembly from what is provided in the kit. He didn't even paint anything, which, is remarkably common among Pocher kit builders. This "true roadster" kit was a first attempt by Rivarossi to simplify their classic series kits by substituting plastic molded wheels in place of the metal spoked wheels of the earlier kits. Each metal wheel in the earlier kits contained about 200 parts. The Rolls Royce Maharajah had 6 wheels so thats 1200 parts, just in wheels!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtdWHhUyohY

lovegt40
02-01-2013, 02:37 PM
I was one of the disappointed by porsche 993, even if I would have it still today I would surely convert it into a gt2 with its famous Tk..

RonCla
02-01-2013, 07:01 PM
Autograph are showing the price as an estimated 600 euros and available from the 3rd quarter 2013

http://shop.autographmodel.com/Pocher-1-8-model-kit-Lamborghini-Aventador-HK100-Orange-Argos

http://shop.autographmodel.com/2013-01-30-International-Toy-Fair-Nuremberg

drunken monkey
02-01-2013, 07:54 PM
I was one of the disappointed by porsche 993, even if I would have it still today I would surely convert it into a gt2 with its famous Tk..


But that's kinda part of the attraction.
The bigger the scale, the easier it is to make parts for.

I would spend time to turn it into a Turbo.

hd221813
02-02-2013, 03:48 AM
Please, take a look at the Amalgam model:

Lamborghini Aventador - Amalgam 1/8 (http://finemodelcars.com/hi-res/gallery_gt_road_1_8th_lamborghini_aventador.php)

corvettekid_7684
02-02-2013, 11:34 AM
Please, take a look at the Amalgam model:

Lamborghini Aventador - Amalgam 1/8 (http://finemodelcars.com/hi-res/gallery_gt_road_1_8th_lamborghini_aventador.php)

I can't afford that!

gp-models
02-02-2013, 02:31 PM
I bought the Porsche years ago, but sold it again cause there are not much parts and details, the engine was a joke. I agree that a race conversion based on it would be nice, i`ve seen a couple of GT2 conversions in the past.
Finaly i have the F40 left over with the autograph kit, but still no time to build it^^
If someone is interested in it, i will sell it on ebay the next days ;)

corvettekid_7684
02-02-2013, 02:54 PM
I wish they'd make a Vector W8 :)

roymattblack
02-02-2013, 04:59 PM
My Aventador is on pre-order with Autograph - delivery around October.
'Projected' price is 530 inc delivery to the UK. To me, that's pretty good. I've ordered the orange one.
WHEN it arrives, a build thread will be here. Can't wait!!!
I have a 1/8 Lewis Hamilton McLaren to build first.....
Roy.

Q-DawgVFR
04-12-2013, 12:15 PM
I just found out about the new Pocher Aventador. What a beauty, and a great surprise for me as a Lambo fan! I'm going to pre-order very soon.

Regarding price, Autograph model website lists 520 Euro for non-EU purchases (VAT is included in regular price listings), so that helps but it will still be expensive. But I can't help myself. One is going to find a home next to the F40 and TR in my display case. And even though the 993 was by all accounts not the greatest kit, I will want one to convert into a GT2 if they re-release it. And maybe a classic too, like the Alfa.

I fully expect it will only be a matter of time before Autograph (or someone else) does make a transkit for the new Lambo kit, to take the detail to the next level. But at first glance, it appears the new Lambo detail will be superior to any of the other modern Pocher subject matter.:smile:

I think it is great that Hornby is reviving the Pocher brand and I wish them great success!

roymattblack
04-12-2013, 12:29 PM
If you're in the UK, you can pre-order direct with Hornby with a 50 deposit - mine's already in.
Best of all, the UK price is 499, NOT 599 as originally suggested.
Can't wait until November. I'll 'try' to keep it unopened as an Xmas pressie.....

Roy.

tpliquid
04-12-2013, 01:56 PM
Ihave that mercedes 540k sitting my my garage. my dad bught it a few years back

leafs004
04-12-2013, 06:37 PM
Curious to see the quality of this one, but not planning to buy it. If the quality is solid, I would definately like to see what else they're thinking about future releases.

Scolopendra
04-17-2013, 07:49 AM
Curious to see the quality of this one, but not planning to buy it. If the quality is solid, I would definately like to see what else they're thinking about future releases.

I wrote them a mail and they answered that they cannot share their future plans. There are different cars they would like to make next but everything is in secrecy at the moment.

Q-DawgVFR
04-18-2013, 04:24 PM
I wrote them a mail and they answered that they cannot share their future plans. There are different cars they would like to make next but everything is in secrecy at the moment.

Can't blame them for playing their cards closely.

Future releases probably depend on the success of this one: that's why I plan on snatching one of the Lambo kits right away.

I hope they keep cranking out new releases and re-release some of the old kits.

Time will tell I guess.

Chuck Kourouklis
01-09-2014, 08:41 PM
Parts breakdown borrowed from Pocher's Facebook page:

http://images42.fotki.com/v1482/photos/3/1487343/9719012/lamboexpl-vi.jpg

And a few observations about mine:

http://images114.fotki.com/v74/photos/3/1487343/9719012/UVuH-vi.jpg

Ver-ry much a Pocher kit in the spirit of the diecast Ferraris, optimized in a fashion you might have expected if Pocher had continued for a decade, anyway, if not the last 15 years.

If the F40's finish was a step up over the Testarossa's, then the diecast panels present maybe two steps over the F40. Glossy, orange peel relatively minimal. Some wash-away at the seams indicates either a dark primer or even unprimed metal under it, so the broader plastic parts, orange paint on orange plastic, are apt to be a dodgy match with metal bits like the three pieces shot here, the engine cover, doors, and the bonnet - the plastic rocker panel I tried didn't look too bad, but I have to reserve judgment for now. Unfortunately, there are some slight sinks in the metal panels and more texture in the painted plastic, so a serious build will want some refinishing.

Crappy dogleg steering aside, the dirty bits show rather more progress, promising a more rational and sharply-resolved approach than previously seen. The front and rear subframes and running gear are actually metal this time, so no more of this queasy sense of pot metal crunching down on fiber-reinforced nylon - even if the finished Aventador appears to squat down up front just like its Ferrari forebears. The tires are of the exact same iron-durometer vinyl last seen in the Ferraris, with less wave across the tread this time. Parts pouches, numbering system, styrofoam-and-cardboard-box packing are very familiar, even if the box has all the mass of TWO Pocher Classic kits stacked atop one another this time.

Multi-colored taillights are pre-painted; metal suspension arms, uprights, pushrods and bell cranks are vacuum-packed against cardboard as seen before. The plastic parts have about the typical mass and engraving for Pocher kits, perhaps with a bit more refinement this go around; there's heavier use of 3-axis molding on the crank case and cylinder heads. There are also 14 different varieties of fasteners this time, as opposed to the one-screw-fits-all approach of the Ferraris.

That's the thumbnail. More delving later as time allows...

hd221813
01-10-2014, 03:13 PM
Door assembly official video:

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/uDMM5CtTdJA/mqdefault.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDMM5CtTdJA)

sosofast
01-11-2014, 12:42 AM
The shop by my house just got two of them. They are $799.00 and the glass case for it is $250.00. The box is giant

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