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Info about Jaguar E-Type lightweight


lovegt40
11-08-2012, 06:48 AM
Does anybody knows if exist (or existed) the 1/24 scale model kit of the jag lightweight used in historical competitions?

http://www.rmc-cars.fr/allmyphotos/img_full/111/15e_Sport_Et_Collection%20628.jpg

I have both gunze e-type cabrio and airfix e-type. the wheels I already scratchbuild in 24 (the little serie I did for my dino 206sp in progress), but before start cut and paste plastic or resin I would like to ask u.

I like a lot this car, and she is extremely fats in modern-historical races

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f3/95056d1223327891-chopping-jaguar-e-type-lightweight-roadster_4.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Jaguar_E-Type_Lightweight.jpg

thank u for any info.

Ettore
11-08-2012, 08:14 AM
This car has never been made by a major model manufacturer in 1/24th scale; you would have to modify a Gunze or Heller kit. The closest you could get would be the Profil24 1964 Le Mans car. 40 FXN or the unobtainable Scalekraft Lindner Nocker cae, 4868 WK.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

lovegt40
11-08-2012, 11:42 AM
sure, also i saw Profil model, but it is another version.
Probably then will be on my list of the missing ones to be made asap :).

Dont think neither in slotcars something has been done...

For me she is wonderful.

F1Tommy
11-08-2012, 08:13 PM
The ScaleKraft Linder car was a copy of the very old SMTS 1/24th scale lightweight kit. Both are very hard to find now. I prefer the original SMTS kit as it has a resin body and metal chrome plated and rubber parts.


Joker 24 made the Cunningham(white/blue) car in 1/24th scale.


Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2013-Chicago March 2013

lovegt40
11-09-2012, 04:10 AM
tom dont u have any pic of theme? I never heard such producers, maybe only american market items from the past?

were they good in your opinion or it is something we can quietly miss today?

F1Tommy
11-09-2012, 06:15 AM
Hi,
The Joker 24 was made in Japan and is resin. The SMTS/SMS was made in England. SMTS made alot of 1/43rd kits and are well known. I don't have pictures but I can take them when I get a chance. The Joker 24 is ok but you could do as good with a Heller XKE modified. Decals...Check with Pattos if they have any..The numbers are a little tricky but nothing you can't put together. For the SMTS lightweight Linder car, you should get the SMTS kit as the car has alot of changes. The original Linder car was destroyed. They have a few replicas of the car running around in England. Linder, the owner was killed in the car when he flipped it back in 1964.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2013-Chicago March 2013

lemansnut
11-09-2012, 08:56 AM
I'm pretty sure it was Motor Racing Models magazine had an excellent series of articles about the GT cars of that era. They had a series of drawings showing the modifications needed to make this car. I'll try and find it for you.

Mike

Ettore
11-09-2012, 09:38 AM
I have all of the MRRN issues if you can't find what you're looking for.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

lovegt40
11-09-2012, 12:50 PM
that would be very useful.do u think revell reissue of the xke is so terrible model to start with for this project?it has an open engine bay..dont seems so terrible from company pics

F1Tommy
11-09-2012, 02:20 PM
that would be very useful.do u think revell reissue of the xke is so terrible model to start with for this project?it has an open engine bay..dont seems so terrible from company pics


Well, I think the Revell is 1/25th scale. The Heller is alot better overall.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2013-Chicago March 2013

lovegt40
11-09-2012, 07:26 PM
found this rview for the XKe

http://www.modelers-network.com/bausatzvorstellung/4/237-jaguar-e-type.html

lovegt40
11-09-2012, 08:04 PM
also discover Lidner car (german importer for jags) was a different model too:
http://www.extravaganzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Lindner-Nocker-Low-Drag-Lightweight-Jaguar-E-Type-1.jpg

http://www.extravaganzi.com/most-expensive-jaguar-lindnernocker-low-drag-lightweight-jaguar-e-type/

...real interesting stuff...12 done, already 4 different versions. LOL. So why I see so many nice ones in modern historic racings?

The last nice one I've seen in Monza last june (driven gratly by Emanuele Pirro, ex audi sport team) was a lightweigth too,and was too cool to see her entering the variante ascari always in drifting /oversteer. For 2 hours.

lovegt40
11-09-2012, 08:06 PM
as well as this mdoern interpretation is pretty cool:
http://benzs.blogspot.it/2011/05/2011-eagle-jaguar-e-type-speedster.html

roymattblack
11-10-2012, 07:01 AM
I made the Cunningham car a while back from the old 1/32 Airfix kit.
A lot of filling, cutting and scratchbuilding - particularly the non-existent light bowls and lights - as well as making a rear cockpit bulkhead - there isn't one in the kit so you can see the rear wheels behind the seats!
I made my own decals and did the steel wheels by turning the kit wheels back-to-front and using steel washers and nuts for the inner part of the rims.

Fun and I'm going to make the E2A car from the Airfix too sometime.

Sorry the images are side by side across the page - I can't get them to
go underneath each other......:banghead:

Roy.
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/IMG_0211.jpghttp://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/IMG_0210.jpghttp://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/IMG_0218.jpghttp://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/IMG_0212.jpghttp://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/IMG_0209.jpg

lovegt40
11-10-2012, 06:40 PM
that's a very cool model Roy.
I have the coupè version from airfix, and the spider from revell.revell is indeed way smaller (1:25) than airfix(heller?) one.
Both are not so nice models, airfix looks indeed better and little more detailed.

I notw btw the lightweight (probably many many many replicas around, exactly as for the gt40 where all replicate the Gulf flared body) has some "muscles" not presend in ordinary e-type derivated model kits.
Those are the curves I would like to recreate, with milliput..pasta...salsa...sauerkrauts. whatever.

http://www.jdclassics.co.uk/images/large/img-1226-1.jpg

keeping her lower as a real lowrider (as in many racing pics).
http://www.jdclassics.co.uk/images/large/img-1215-1-1.jpg

wheels will be those. I saved the mouldings and some copied from the metal rims coming from the dino 206 sp with fujimi Ac Cobra tires
http://multiply.com/mu/alsoldatino/image/1/photos/upload/300x300/TZc5pwooCyoAAHg9Oa81/SDC15426.JPG?et=qumdUPItpAxHRqCsuR4F0A&nmid=0

lovegt40
11-14-2012, 07:29 AM
also in this pic u see what I mean as wide rear

http://www.supercars.net/gallery/119513/2900/1050431.jpg

drunken monkey
11-14-2012, 02:55 PM
yup.
when I hear "lightweight E-Type, my head automatically thinks of the low drag models.

also discover Lidner car (german importer for jags) was a different model too:
http://www.extravaganzi.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Lindner-Nocker-Low-Drag-Lightweight-Jaguar-E-Type-1.jpg

http://www.extravaganzi.com/most-expensive-jaguar-lindnernocker-low-drag-lightweight-jaguar-e-type/

lmracer
11-14-2012, 04:17 PM
this is my model of the LW Jaguar Team Cunningham LeMans -63

(http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=47082&stc=1&d=1352927437)

lmracer
11-14-2012, 04:31 PM
This Model is an Airfix/Gunze Hi-tech kit with lots of modifications, as the steeringcolumn / dash RHD ,louvers on the hood "21" on each side ,Dunlopwheels resincopies from Profil24 with tires . and lots of modifications on the engine .inlet-trumpets for fuelinjection, ignitionwiring and oiltubes , brakecylinder with reservoir , external lights in front , Custom-made decals ,

roymattblack
11-14-2012, 04:58 PM
This Model is an Airfix/Gunze Hi-tech kit with lots of modifications, as the steeringcolumn / dash RHD ,louvers on the hood "21" on each side ,Dunlopwheels resincopies from Profil24 with tires . and lots of modifications on the engine .inlet-trumpets for fuelinjection, ignitionwiring and oiltubes , brakecylinder with reservoir , external lights in front , Custom-made decals ,


I have this kit too.....
It's on my 'soon to do' list.
Where did you get the steel wheels???
I fancy building the same car, or the famous old 'lost' number 23.

B.T.W... An ace build.
Roy.

lmracer
11-14-2012, 05:03 PM
As I mention Dunlopwheels resincopies from Profil24 with tires
//lmracer

lovegt40
11-14-2012, 05:56 PM
LOL, Lars, also with u....we love same subjects ..;);) and as usual, u made a stunning model.Dont u have little more pics of such beauty? tack sa micket.

Karl GBG
11-16-2012, 05:51 PM
Here are some pictures of Lars-Olof's (lmracer) Jag

http://imageshack.us/a/img27/7533/201208172495naturligtlj.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img525/1863/2012081725081024.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img585/3348/2012081725141024.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img705/6643/2012081725121280.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img266/2464/2012081725011280.jpg

roymattblack
11-16-2012, 06:08 PM
Absolutely amazing!
Just a small question though - - - should the drivers door window frame be dropped WITH the glass? What I mean is, you have the chrome frame half way down, along with the window.
Was the racer like that?
I want to build my High-detail kit just like yours and will use yours as a fair bit of reference.

Roy.

Scalemodelfanatic
11-16-2012, 06:41 PM
http:// http://public.fotki.com/plasticfanatic/scale-models/021.html#media

This is my attempt at doing one of the low drag lightweight Jaguars, based in the Revell 1/8 scale plastic model kit, new roof,scrachtbuild wheels and other things. The model is not a perfect replica by any means, I did this model several years ago when visual info. was not as abundant as today, so is more a representation than a scale replica...but still I like it very much.

Fred

lovegt40
11-17-2012, 03:42 AM
Tack Karl,
Lars-Olof made an incredibly nice model. I like it under every point of view.He is very skilled and all models I've seen from him are too nice ones (he is also right, I must join the model club in GBG.Just all my modelling stuff is in Italy, cause in Marstrand I have a very little cute house,and wife dont like to give me the "kontor" so often for my toys :grinyes:)

Fred, also your one is so cool.The scale 1/8 is another planet.gives always justice to such models.really a beast.

I've just seen around so few pictures of the coupè racer version. nearly always is spyder based (also all the ones I've seen racing in Monza track).sometimes I've see the e-type racing, but mostly was a normal car with wide tires.

Think this is really a cool subject for a model.really happy I open this post. For all historical racers lovers this is too interesting I think.
thank u for posting all this :lol2:

roymattblack
11-17-2012, 04:04 AM
http:// http://public.fotki.com/plasticfanatic/scale-models/021.html#media

This is my attempt at doing one of the low drag lightweight Jaguars, based in the Revell 1/8 scale plastic model kit, new roof,scrachtbuild wheels and other things. The model is not a perfect replica by any means, I did this model several years ago when visual info. was not as abundant as today, so is more a representation than a scale replica...but still I like it very much.

Fred

Absolutely BRILLIANT!
I have this 1/8 kit in my stash and would love to do the racer too.
HOW did you make the rear end of the car and the wheels?????

Roy.

lmracer
11-17-2012, 10:34 AM
Reply to Roy!!
Hi Roy, I think that you are right about the windowframe. It should be separated from the glass.
It is a mistake by me, thanks for your attention!
lmracer.

JeremyJon
04-14-2013, 07:49 AM
This is my attempt at doing one of the low drag lightweight Jaguars, based in the Revell 1/8 scale plastic model kit, new roof,scrachtbuild wheels and other things. The model is not a perfect replica by any means, I did this model several years ago when visual info. was not as abundant as today, so is more a representation than a scale replica...but still I like it very much.

Fred

beautiful work there!
the Sayer low drag coupe is certainly in my top ten favorite cars of all time

roymattblack
04-14-2013, 01:53 PM
Not actually a lightweight E type - It's my take on E2A.
The base kit is once again the little 1/32 E Type with a scratch built rear end and faked-up Dunlop wheels.
All the decals, lines and rivets were made by me.
Applying the decals was, um, time consuming......

Roy.

http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/P1010071-4_zps85a1902e.jpg
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/P1010069-4_zpsf9ba7a6b.jpg
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/P1010068-3_zps30db8e74.jpg
http://i1201.photobucket.com/albums/bb355/roymattblack/P1010074-2_zps57a6734d.jpg

rgriffs
04-16-2013, 07:54 PM
the white e type with the red roof is owned by adrian newey (red bull f1 designer), it is a real e type lightweight, many good photos of this car can be found simply by googling it. it was the last of the lightweights to be built. if you want the best source of information you will need to buy the book ' the ultimate e type' by phillip porter.

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