Restyling of the 156 !


Stefanel1
06-03-2003, 01:58 PM
Here it is ;)
The new Jtd 170hp will be available with this new form of the 156. ;)

Stefanel1
06-03-2003, 02:01 PM
Little change inside with the (re) coming of the wood ;)

crayzayjay
06-04-2003, 06:04 AM
I think i like it... i'll have to see it in the skin first.... although i have to say it has a sort of "mitsubishi" look about it.. i hope that doesnt come across in real..

Stefanel1
06-04-2003, 08:18 AM
more pics :
like a Mitsu you said ? :D

crayzayjay
06-04-2003, 08:23 AM
The front, absolument, it’s lost some of its individuality. Still nice, but now a little bit Mitsu :o

Stefanel1
06-04-2003, 08:27 AM
aybe a little bit less personnality but that's maybe because we're not already used to this "new" car ;)

crayzayjay
06-04-2003, 08:30 AM
Not exactly, my feeling is that I am kinda used to it because it reminds me of a dull Mitsubishi front! The only difference is the Alfa shield that goes down into the front bumper. Otherwise, the front design screams Mitsubishi! You did well to get the old look ;)

crayzayjay
06-04-2003, 08:33 AM
Any pics of the back?

Stefanel1
06-04-2003, 02:39 PM
;)

Jimster
06-05-2003, 12:42 AM
the front is a Galant/Diamante hybrid with an Alfa Romeo shield- which is far too large- It'll grow on me- but it has lost it's personality:(

ales
06-05-2003, 02:18 AM
I like the first one much more (just like I had with Pug 406 - the 97 one). And the restyled 156 reminds me more of a Seat Leon from the front...

crayzayjay
06-05-2003, 03:49 AM
It’s not an ugly car at all, but a Mitsubishi Galant is exactly what it reminds me of. See? Im not the only one. Glad to see the back is still nice. I haven’t been that impressed with Alfa’s last couple of styling jobs, i.e. this, and the Sprint, or GT Coupe, whatever its called

vsix
06-05-2003, 10:22 AM
more pictures


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http://www.edisport.it/edisport/automobilismo/Magazine.nsf/a30a36d10ee4ef1dc12567b600708635/8b40bde8cd8d65c5c1256d3b003c3403?OpenDocument

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http://www.edisport.it/edisport/automobilismo/Magazine.nsf/175e9c958a9c4625c12567b60062f771/7ae6fb04bff6235dc1256d3b00455850?OpenDocument

not so bad but not any better than the old one

crayzayjay
06-05-2003, 10:49 AM
actually i dont like the new rear bumper very much..

Stefanel1
06-05-2003, 05:34 PM
I do also prefer the "old" one but I was just not seeing the Mitsu design ;)
For the Ibiza, the designer of the 156 joined Seat and did the facelift of this car :D

Jimster
06-05-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by crayzayjay
It’s not an ugly car at all, but a Mitsubishi Galant is exactly what it reminds me of. See? Im not the only one. Glad to see the back is still nice. I haven’t been that impressed with Alfa’s last couple of styling jobs, i.e. this, and the Sprint, or GT Coupe, whatever its called

I'm actually seeing more Diamante than Galant- but fiar observation ;)

crayzayjay
06-06-2003, 04:32 AM
No such car as a "Diamante" in the UK, which is why i couldnt agree / disagree... but theres definitely a hint of Galant!

edonis
06-09-2003, 02:52 PM
I actually like the 97-version better, but I disagree to that Italdesign has taken away the Alfa-appeal, and made it more like a Mitsu. I just can't see a trace of Mitsubishi anywhere. However, the from the side, the 156 just doesn't look as great as it used to be. Maybe I'll reconsider my statement after seeing this car in its pure sheet metal.. hehe :p

Jimster
06-09-2003, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by crayzayjay
No such car as a "Diamante" in the UK, which is why i couldnt agree / disagree... but theres definitely a hint of Galant!

http://www.magnaclub.org/images/wa_gallery/wa025.jpg


The Australian made Mitsubishi-large car ;)

crayzayjay
06-10-2003, 03:28 AM
yeah i see it now :D

Volken
06-20-2003, 12:59 PM
Substance of this restyle is again Fiat's need for more cash reflecting
times of trouble.

Sadly Alfa (hope this will end soon), wants to path in German all-familly
look models and new shape/face of 147 looks of less virtue then
present one. (what does old really means these days in auto world)

I have to say I like recent face, more refined and distinctive then
this 147 new look. Shame.

I Geneve thay have showed to us visitors new interior with large screen
and brand new dashboard,but sadly this failed to finds its way in this
restyle. It is clear that only reason of the same is competition and
buying some time. But really, why?
156 drives exquisite , look without pears.

But this be all a joy compared what GM has in mind for new 158 look.

crayzayjay
06-20-2003, 01:09 PM
I wasnt aware that GM had the final word :confused:

Volken
06-20-2003, 01:42 PM
Pardons for typos, I'm in between things while I type.

GM? Certainly.

Fiat and GM goe back since 70's

Alfa/Lancia/Saab have shared all platforms till 9-3 hatch.
Lancia was full of GM parts.

Fiat has no financial power to create alone next turn of parts so it needs
to share with partners like GM.

With Fiat ugly display of making business decisions, GM will play even
greater role.

Jimster
06-20-2003, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Volken
Substance of this restyle is again Fiat's need for more cash reflecting
times of trouble.

Sadly Alfa (hope this will end soon), wants to path in German all-familly
look models and new shape/face of 147 looks of less virtue then
present one. (what does old really means these days in auto world)

I have to say I like recent face, more refined and distinctive then
this 147 new look. Shame.

I Geneve thay have showed to us visitors new interior with large screen
and brand new dashboard,but sadly this failed to finds its way in this
restyle. It is clear that only reason of the same is competition and
buying some time. But really, why?
156 drives exquisite , look without pears.

But this be all a joy compared what GM has in mind for new 158 look.

I've seen some sketches- I don't want a Vectra/CTS-clone look tank you very much:mad:

Volken
06-20-2003, 06:54 PM
You think that is scary?

Since few months ago,...another GM’s brainstorm decision came to light.

It is not enough that Saab has to design engines with best know-how on turbo, so how do you thank them, well, you imprison them with all Opel departments together including parts department as well.

So now, Saab has to ask for Opel whether he might imply his own (!) ideas for his own cars or better give all that before to Vectras and other under quality realization.

Just then might he employ some his own cars.
GM considers Saab as luxury segment, guess what he thinks about Alfa?
He has "great" visual idea for Saab as well save alone Alfa.
Fast food, overweight-coronary creativity lives under GM.

Hope Alfa will endure this somehow.
:mad:

crayzayjay
06-22-2003, 08:20 AM
I thought GM was a minority shareholder in FIAT :confused:

vsix
06-22-2003, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Volken
Pardons for typos, I'm in between things while I type.

GM? Certainly.

Fiat and GM goe back since 70's

Alfa/Lancia/Saab have shared all platforms till 9-3 hatch.
Lancia was full of GM parts.

Fiat has no financial power to create alone next turn of parts so it needs
to share with partners like GM.

With Fiat ugly display of making business decisions, GM will play even
greater role.

tipo 4 project , saab9000,lancia thema,fiat croma and alfa 164 which is most different of those 4, its made last. Thats only platform they shared.

Volken
06-22-2003, 09:46 AM
To summate those you mentioned, add research and sharing extra parts and decade of two combined all together, that’s a long time.

Here GM’s vision for new 156 (project 939) 158 Alfa.
Not bad for Tvr Cerbera ???

Nightmare, boxy , nightmare…to play with such expressive lines and make this…shame

Volken
06-22-2003, 09:52 AM
And this be first draw of nightmare to sight and path future

Volken
06-22-2003, 09:55 AM
We could live with this interior....

crayzayjay
06-22-2003, 03:31 PM
Maybe its the optimist in me, but i wont believe it til i see it

Stefanel1
06-22-2003, 04:09 PM
They cannot do something wrong with the design. Alfa is for many people a sexy car, latin. ;)

Jimster
06-23-2003, 12:48 AM
Originally posted by Volken
To summate those you mentioned, add research and sharing extra parts and decade of two combined all together, that’s a long time.

Here GM’s vision for new 156 (project 939) 158 Alfa.
Not bad for Tvr Cerbera ???

Nightmare, boxy , nightmare…to play with such expressive lines and make this…shame

Mate- thats the new Maserati Quattroporte- not an Alfa- and old pic that one :wink:

Volken
06-23-2003, 05:49 AM
Italiaspeed.com are nr.1 source for Italian cars with exclusive picture even taken from factories sometimes with help from friends.

Never before have they been dilettantes about making wrong claims about new designs.

If they say it is new Alfa - be sure it is new Alfa.

Besides, I have seen other sources as well, and, all present the same.

Don’t mistake visible door handles, Alfa 156 first working model was looking like 147 if you were to judge the same by door handles.

They share body shapes so any similarity is pure in house design
direction. I don’t claim this is final word, but, Italiaspeed.com, never made mistake so far.

Most likely it will look once when nose is shaped as Alfa.
:bananasmi

Stefanel1
06-23-2003, 09:40 AM
Volken : is it a JTD in your signature ?

AlfaMan
07-09-2003, 08:33 AM
I love the interior :bigthumb: but the front also remindes me Seat... I prefer my own model of 99!
But still's a great car!!!:thefinger

Stefanel1
07-09-2003, 11:26 AM
The "best" are maybe the models of 2002. Very little facelift and new interior. ;)

Welcome AlfaMan ! a new 156's owner ! :D ;)

AlfaMan
07-09-2003, 09:47 PM
TANX!!! tongue: I' very proud of being a new 156 owner, never thought i could have one with 22 years old, but with some sacrifice i've made it!! It's been 1 month since then, and i just love him!! It's such a beutiful car... as you said the 2002 model it's the best, but for now it was too expensive :frown: when i get some pics i'll show to you guys :biggrin: i've never heard before about this forum, but it's great write to alfa's fans!!:bigthumb: well tanx again, and let me just warn you that my english language it's not a big deal! :icon16:

Alfa Saudations!!:worshippy

Stefanel1
07-10-2003, 12:33 AM
pics, pics ! :D ;)
The 2002 was too expensive also for me, but maybe next year who knows ?... ;)

Volken
07-10-2003, 08:42 AM
Stefanel,

What kind of manners you present to my sigt?
This is not your style!

Remove that shame duck signature text nonsesnse, or I
will have to speak with Alizee's family

:headshake

Stefanel1
07-10-2003, 12:20 PM
You don't like this signature ?.... :( :D ohhhhh, but I don't understand well English, I don't know what this tense means :D :D
Just for you I remove it... ;)

Jimster
07-10-2003, 06:56 PM
You people have confused me aout the whole sig thing :confused:

and welcome aboard Alfaman!!!!! It's good to have a fellow 156 owner on these boards:bigthumb:

Volken
07-10-2003, 11:58 PM
Stefanel,

Arrêt cette langue de la honte
Manières sont vertu rare

Did I said Alizee only, I will speak to Audrey also I'm not sure they
would find this under-éloquence very becoming. :pimp:

Bien se tenir vous-même:nono:

Stefanel1
07-11-2003, 12:44 PM
Oh là là Volken ! Rassure toi, je sais me tenir, mais un petit peu d'autodérision n'est pas un défaut pour autant... ;)

Volken
07-11-2003, 11:42 PM
Stefanel très agréable,
Maintenant dos à gain anglais

:boink:


nOW bAcK to English :wink:

Stefanel1
07-12-2003, 08:20 AM
....mhhhh, sorry, I didn't understand you last tense :(

Volken
07-16-2003, 12:30 AM
Last tense or Past tense ? :biggrin:



Picture shame of the week :
(Maserati embarrassment)
:loser:

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