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Big dissapointment for those waiting on Fujimi's DeTomaso Pantera


viperofoz
01-18-2012, 05:53 AM
This may already be common knowledge but I had stupidly assumed that Fujimi's New DeTomaso Pantera was actually a NEW kit.

I just looked at the kit contents at Hobby Search and saw that it's just an old, previously motorized kit with a new box :disappoin

Body looks ok but interior and chassis look crap.

http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig16/10167118a.jpg



http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig16/10167118n2.jpg



http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig16/10167118n.jpg

Regards, Dan

Entau
01-18-2012, 06:12 AM
a very simplified kit indeed with the same price as Tamiya's DBS, awesome!!

lovegt40
01-18-2012, 06:50 AM
thank u for the advertisment Viperofoz.I like a lot the pantera,specialli the gr.4

Hope this new fujimi was really a NEW kit, but suspect for my purpouses I shall go on with old arii and plasticard and milliput :(

ZoomZoomMX-5
01-18-2012, 07:20 AM
Well, glad I have the Tokyo Marui kit. Does look like there is some new tooling for chassis/suspension/brakes, and the typical "new" Fujimi interior bucket.

If this is truly an old kit, which one is it? It's not the Tokyo Marui kit. Ever since seeing photos of the mockup at the hobby show, I was struck by how "vintage" the body shape was. It didn't seem to capture the shape particularly well, and seeing builtup photos I see a lot of halo effect in the glass. It's better than having no Pantera, but it certainly doesn't live up to current model standards, but Fujimi has been lowering their standards while raising their prices. Pity that Hasegawa or Aoshima didn't do an all-new tool of the Pantera.

Veyron
01-18-2012, 08:15 AM
Big missed opportunity for Fujimi.

Tokyo Marui kit is still king for a Pantera build.

petesy
01-18-2012, 08:24 AM
It looks like the resin Pantera they issued a few years ago, right down to the chassis (but with better brakes).

I'll still get one. At least the body and the interior is usable, and the wheels are nice.

blubaja
01-18-2012, 12:47 PM
This may already be common knowledge but I had stupidly assumed that Fujimi's New DeTomaso Pantera was actually a NEW kit.

I just looked at the kit contents at Hobby Search and saw that it's just an old, previously motorized kit with a new box :disappoin

Body looks ok but interior and chassis

Regards, Dan

It IS an all new kit.

It's not a previously released motorized kit.

Body and chassis look good like new fujimi. They just seem to lack any other decent details:/ Can't wait to get mine!:)

hirofkd
01-18-2012, 07:51 PM
Since it's a curbside kit, it actually looks fine to me. As long as the body is more accurate than the Marui kit, I'll get one, but I'll wait for the Delxue version with PE for a better value. I wish this level of curbside kit can be bought for less than 2000 yen, instead of Y4000. The best price I found was Y2740 (less than two movie tickets in Tokyo), and that's still too much especially when Yen is over-valued.

willimo
01-18-2012, 08:55 PM
Fujimi kits are becoming nothing more than a good body and a decent jump off. This is how I always felt about the old Honda kits - Integras, Civics - fun to build, good looking bodies, but you really had to massage the interiors and suspensions to make anything passable. It looks like this kit has the bummer suspension, like their new Porsche kit, which is really the biggest problem to me. An interior you can fix easily (usually), a suspension fix is a major PITA.

F1Tommy
01-19-2012, 10:13 AM
I bet the Tokyo Marui kit made 35 years ago is more accurate and more detailed. I don't trust Fujimi.

Tom Tanner/Scale Designs/Ferrari Expo 2012-Chicago March 17th 2012

viperofoz
01-20-2012, 07:17 AM
It IS an all new kit.

It's not a previously released motorized kit.

Body and chassis look good like new fujimi. They just seem to lack any other decent details:/ Can't wait to get mine!:)


Wow...My appologies to those I may have misled, but if this is the current state of a new Fujimi kit then I think thats a pretty sad state of affairs.... It looks more like a new kit from 1972 not 2012.

It probably goes a long way to explaining why I have a Revell Ferrari 458 and Mercedes SLS in my collection instead of the fujimi versions

Regards, Dan

stratos75
01-22-2012, 04:53 PM
Big missed opportunity for Fujimi.

Tokyo Marui kit is still king for a Pantera build.
I agree with you. I was impressed with your Pantera and bought the same kit on eBay. I also have kept all photos of your Pantera.
There is the contents of that Tokyo Marui kit.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2714/14224223.28/0_68a24_2322f9f2_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428580/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2714/14224223.28/0_68a25_16195518_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428581/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2710/14224223.28/0_68a26_68b4c96e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428582/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2708/14224223.28/0_68a27_34af3acc_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428583/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2708/14224223.28/0_68a28_ad9037a9_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428584/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2712/14224223.28/0_68a29_3334c5d5_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428585/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6004/14224223.28/0_68a2a_cf5bfb48_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428586/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6005/14224223.28/0_68a2b_9c66a86a_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428587/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6004/14224223.28/0_68a2c_9ad5803a_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428588/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2714/14224223.28/0_68a2d_975cdd6e_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428589/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2710/14224223.28/0_68a2e_5dc490d4_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428590/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6004/14224223.28/0_68a2f_2cb495bc_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428591/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5502/14224223.28/0_68a30_7f439efe_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428592/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6004/14224223.28/0_68a31_4cb95b0a_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428593/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5502/14224223.28/0_68a32_95216e46_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428594/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5502/14224223.28/0_68a33_1c02e107_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428595/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5502/14224223.28/0_68a34_2fe2c928_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428596/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2708/14224223.28/0_68a35_1aed721f_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428597/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6005/14224223.29/0_68a36_4e83a358_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428598/)

Here that can turn out from this kit.
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2712/14224223.29/0_68a3c_4c3a9792_-1-XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/mikhailpetrenko/view/428604/)

exhaust smoke
01-23-2012, 10:47 AM
Glad I cancelled my order for this kit!

stratos75
01-23-2012, 11:52 AM
Glad I cancelled my order for this kit!
I too. :grinyes:
Because I already have much more better kit what I shown above.

petesy
01-24-2012, 11:36 AM
I found a Japanese blog that compared the Fujimi and the Marui Pantera kits:

http://elian.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2012/01/gts-52d3.html

If you want a Pantera and don't already have a Marui kit, I don't see why the Fujimi one wouldn't make a good base. The Japanese modeller actually thinks the Fujimi one looks more like a Pantera. The glass is problematic though.

As for the Marui kit, good luck finding one for less than what the Fujimi costs. I bought 2 from Japan last year, with postage factored in they came at $75 US a pop.

ZoomZoomMX-5
01-24-2012, 11:50 AM
Glad I picked up my Marui kit about 10 years ago for about $30 delivered. Prices have increased a lot since then, and I expect they will only go higher now. Fujimi is okay if you don't otherwise have a Pantera, but it is rather shameful to see how far Fujimi has slipped. If this were 2006, a new Fujimi Pantera would have been twice as good as this, for a lot less $.

petesy
01-24-2012, 02:24 PM
I have the Pantera from Marui and Gunze/Testor, as well as the resin Fujimi, and Rainbow Ten just shipped my plastic Fujimi yesterday. Maybe I can post some pics after my vacation next week.

All versions are workable, but the Gunze one will need a lot of work. The front window molding is unrealistically thick and deep. To make it look right one would need to cut it away, chop up the windshield and fit it from outside, while making new molding. It will also need quite a lot of scratch building for the interior. But it does come with Group 4 wide fenders and Campagnolo wheels.

The Marui one is very nice with optional opening doors, and the proportion looks good. The tyres are crap however, one of my kits have tyres pre-mounted on custom rims, the tyres melted into a goop so badly that even the rims are not salvagable. If you have the Marui kit, remove the tyres and throw them away. Don't even think about using them, they will melt into a mess eventually.

I bought the resin Fujimi kit when it first came out, I probably wouldn't bother with it if I was able to locate the Marui kit earlier. The body is comparable to the Marui one and it comes with nice machined and photoetch parts, but at $150 you are better off with the Marui kit.

It's a shame Fujimi is slipping into their "dark" cycle once again. I was expecting something like their 512BB where it would be a simple matter to open up the rear cowl and drop in a Mustang V8, but now it appears the chassis would need major work to make it anything but curbside.

lovegt40
01-24-2012, 03:20 PM
does anybody make the wheels for the panteras? I have the Arii box (think same as gunze then) and also my wheels are gone at once.

Good I pay the model few euros,but as said before there is a great amount of work to make it a nice group4 looking car as this one I wpi˛d like to build someday.

http://www.vendiauto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/2762652724_c02a829516.jpg

Veyron
01-24-2012, 08:10 PM
I have the IMAI Pantera GTS kit, nothing in it is any good.

lovegt40
01-25-2012, 06:25 AM
LOL, thats right,but is always better to start from something crappy than from 0 + plasticard.
General (very general..of course:))shape is taken anyway....
Consider now I am deadly working on a ditech slot body that is much worst than any imai model :D,but the subject is too cool...

Veyron
02-03-2012, 06:41 PM
This is Fujimi's resin one built up....so they have a had a good looking Pantera in their hands.

petesy
02-06-2012, 10:32 AM
I've found a Japanese site that compared the new Fujimi Pantera with the Fujimi resin, the Marui, the Gunze and the Eidai.

http://hirossijp.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2012/01/post-be6c.html (http://hirossijp.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2012/01/post-be6c.html)

The molding looks crisp, but the greenhouse seems squashed.

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