OK So here is my latest idea for a Comparo................



Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo vs. Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo vs. Toyota Supra Twin Turbo v. Honda NSX 3.0l (Pre-1996)(Thats right we're keeping it cheap here) vs. Subaru SVX vs. Mazda FD RX7.


Which one do you vouch for the most???? Take into consideration- styling, engines, handling/road-holding, reliability, tunability, driver envolvement (If you've driven them) and performance in it's various forms.







My Pick??? I'm going to vouch for the Supra in this lot- Second best engine, great looking, VERY tunable, awesome chassis and handling set-up :cool:




The following things are not allowed: Asking why I didn't put rally specials in there (Because it's kill the purpose) saying you'd rather have xxxx car (Because you are off-topic) Other wise anything goes :sun:

Hmm… I’d probably rather have one of those Jap rally-specials! hehe.. only kidding, besides its my forum whatcha gonna do about it :p

Seriously, id go for the NSX, I’d rather have that mid-engined beauty over any of the other cars here, though the RX7 comes a very close second, and the Supra third. always had a soft spot for the 300ZX too... the GTO does nothing for me.

Originally posted by crayzayjay
Hmm… I’d probably rather have one of those Jap rally-specials! hehe.. only kidding, besides its my forum whatcha gonna do about it :p





*Polishes the I can't ban you but I'll beat you anyway stick*


Heres another thing I forgot to mention- Anybody who asks where the Skyline GTR got to gets pummeled endlessly with the ban stick :finger:


I agree with the NSX- great choice!!!!! Easily my number two- the RX7 is 4th, the 300ZX 3rd, SVX 5th and GTO 6th :D

The SVX did nothing for me so its even behind the GTO

oh and btw, where's the Skyline GTR? :D

Originally posted by crayzayjay
The SVX did nothing for me so its even behind the GTO

oh and btw, where's the Skyline GTR? :D

The SVX looked so damn cool when I first saw it and it still does today- it's also a perfect cross between luxury and sports car (On this side of US$10,000 at least)


http://www.autopoint.co.nz/Content/Webphotos/CW/2211375/CW2211375-1127.jpg Gotta love that (Apart from the cheap looking grille :apuke: )

The NSX has always been my favorite Japanese car.

Damn you Jim, good comparo!

I had a lot of trouble picking between the GTO, Fairlady, and Supra. Ultimately I had to pick the GTO, I just love the looks of that car. I wonder how it would market in the U.S. since the GTO was a Pontiac muscle car?

Originally posted by Polygon
Damn you Jim, good comparo!

I had a lot of trouble picking between the GTO, Fairlady, and Supra. Ultimately I had to pick the GTO, I just love the looks of that car. I wonder how it would market in the U.S. since the GTO was a Pontiac muscle car?


Thats why they called it the 3000GT ;) It'd be stepping on the toes of the Americans if you ask me- although there has been Mitsubishi GTO's in Japan since the 70's :D

wondering where the skyline is myself.:bloated: which may and will swing the votes. but out of those listed, i'll have to go with the nsx. yeah it looks old and it's over priced but it's a badass car altogether.

Well I'm a real sucker for engines without poppet valves, so I think you know which one gets my vote...

I'm editting this to write that the Skyline is not worthy of this list, besides you could get them as four door sedans, so no they're not really super coupes in my eyes - Jim's doing the right thing keeping the box-mobile off of the list:D

You know, i'm stuck between the 300zx and the supra.

SUPRA.....
PROS...... CAN HAVE HUGE POWER GAINS........GOOD HANDLING......SEMI RARE.....MORE SPACE
CONS..... HEVY....OLD.....LARGE......SPENDY

300ZX.....
PROS....LIGHTER...NIMBLER.... CAN HAVE LARGE POWER GAINS......4 WHELL STEARING.........T-TOP
CONS.....OLD.......PARTS ARE SPENDY........SMALL AMOUNT OF ROOM

I got to ask, Why is the SVX on here? It only came with an AT in the US, how about the rest of the world(was it even sold anywhere else)? Still, it doesn't deserve to be in the same comparo.
Track car, the NSX or 13B.
1/4 car, the 2JZ of course.
Looks, the 6G72 of course.
It rains half the year where I live, so I'd have to go with the VR4.
I've driven a NA Supra and 3Z. The Supra was a dog, had 90k on the ticker, meticulously maintaned, but it was slow; a friends 97 GSR was quicker. The Supra feels like a big car, cockpit was OK, the center tach was nice. The 300zx was not bad at all, cockpit was nice and tight, handling was great, felt quicker than the Supra. Supra looks better, but the Z felt better. Wish the were Turbos :(

i'd personally take the nsx (the model i'd choose is the type s zero)

it's one of the quickest, lightest, best handling.

the rx7 would be my #2.

the supra isn't that great of a handler stock, so that's why i'd choose the nsx...

and the nsx is just known for how great it handles. i'd take one any day of the week... especially for how rare they are compared to supras etc...

300ZX for being the most balanced

Supra coming in a close 2nd

PS: SVX would get killed in every category by all other cars

Of the choices here I'd pick the Supra on the basis of looks and performance.

The lack of the Skyline cheapens the comparison though.

i choose the NSX becuase the NSX is as close to a ferrari as any of those other cars will get. however, they all perform pretty similarly in stock trim. so what the deciding factor to me was which car is more exotic which is basically the NSX. plus you guys are comparing a MR to just plain'ol FRs. but where is the skyline? its not fair that hte skyline is not in here, and stroke2bloke. you say that the skyline comes in many forms. thats why its not worthy of this comparo. well how about a GTO? what do you call those front wheel drive 160hp base models? those are worse then the skyline base models. and atleast the GT-S or the GT-T's ore the GT-S 4's are all very very quick cars still. the base model 3000GT is pure trash, and the SL model are still slow and are still front wheel drive. i rest my case

The Skyline misses out because it is a box on wheels- these are super-sleek Japper coupes we are comparing- all with similar performance.

The Svx may not be on par in a 1/4 mile with the supra, nsx, rx7, etc but i own one and aside form the expensive parts its a great ride. It only came with an AT trans but when mine shit 3months ago I opted to have a standard trans installed it cost about 3500, same as an AT minus core. I take this car well above the standard road limits. this car takes 90 degree turns at 40-50 mph. 92 was the only year without a governer, thus top speed is alot higher. come on a curvy road with a supra (rear wheel drive? you'll be sliding all over the place. Subaru also made the mistake of making the svx a luxury car also. shave off all the silver spoon shit and you have a car that doesnt weigh 3600 lbs. theres a new project in australia where the 1/4 will be broken they are buildng a wrx with a 3.3l quad cam svx engine, watch for it in sept. Any more questions just reply

Originally posted by 2strokebloke
Well I'm a real sucker for engines without poppet valves, so I think you know which one gets my vote...

I'm editting this to write that the Skyline is not worthy of this list, besides you could get them as four door sedans, so no they're not really super coupes in my eyes - Jim's doing the right thing keeping the box-mobile off of the list:D

Skyline as in all models but the GTR is still only available in a coupe form.
The 300ZX, Supra, and GTO all come in N/A form also though they were specified in turbo model.

Jimster " boxe on wheels" kiss me ass ya blasphemer :thefinger

I vote the NSX out of the lot due to it's overall out of the box performance. Put goodies on it and it becomes leathal. While it will never out power the Supra it will out handle it any day of the week given equal mods from the start.

Now I know why you didn't put the GTR in there Jimmy, because it would have killed anything you put up against it.

A quick note on that Slowbaru SVX. They suck full stop. Absolute dogs all around. I've seen plenty dyno and on the roads and a 300Z would crush it even stock standard.

Originally posted by RazorGTR


Skyline as in all models but the GTR is still only available in a coupe form.
The 300ZX, Supra, and GTO all come in N/A form also though they were specified in turbo model.

Jimster " boxe on wheels" kiss me ass ya blasphemer :thefinger

I vote the NSX out of the lot due to it's overall out of the box performance. Put goodies on it and it becomes leathal. While it will never out power the Supra it will out handle it any day of the week given equal mods from the start.

Now I know why you didn't put the GTR in there Jimmy, because it would have killed anything you put up against it.

A quick note on that Slowbaru SVX. They suck full stop. Absolute dogs all around. I've seen plenty dyno and on the roads and a 300Z would crush it even stock standard.


The GTR really isn't like any of the above mentioned- it's a supercar made from a saloon- like the WRX STi and Lancer Evo's- the cars I have listed here have begun thier lives as supersports coupes and are only coupes- all are very sleek coupes- the Z32 is more suited to this comparision than the GTR

:worshippy NSX :worshippy

Originally posted by Jimster

The GTR really isn't like any of the above mentioned- it's a supercar made from a saloon- like the WRX STi and Lancer Evo's- the cars I have listed here have begun thier lives as supersports coupes and are only coupes- all are very sleek coupes- the Z32 is more suited to this comparision than the GTR

Not really.

The RX7 came from the early RX1 series and was not developed into a "super sport" until the Series 4's and 5's. It was a family coupe at best in its humble beginnings.

The first gen supra's were just a plain sporty coupe introduced by Toyota as a base to see if the market would accept it.

The SVX is a luxury sports car not a Grand Tourer and was never meant to be. Subaru has the WRX to superseed that.

So out of the cars you listed for your comparison only the 300Z, Mitz 3000GT/GTO, and Honda/Acura NSX meet the criteria you have just set.

The first model Prince Motorcompany Skyline was built as a sports car from the beginning also. It took shape over a few decades where as the others you listed are not nearly as old of a blood line. Nissan took the Skyline into a new era with the R30 series. Their goal of GT racing in mind. The goal of domination did not occur until the now known Godzilla. The R32 GTR, which shares a chassis and base platform only with the R32 GTS4 for that model range. The body's how ever are not interchangeable as one might think they are. When someone says Skyline that is a vague grouping of the car. So you can't class the GTR as only a skyline but the top of the range available. Think of the Corvette. You have a base model through to the Z06.

It is no different to say Subaru WRX when there is quite a few different models within that range such as the wagon, fourdoor, coupe, STi, and 22B. All of which share the base platform, being the only difference.

I still think without a doubt the NSX is the better choice from the options you have provided :)

Skyline GTR :iceslolan /Supra/ NSX

(BTW the GTR came in a special edition Sedan variant)

Originally posted by RazorGTR

The RX7 came from the early RX1 series and was not developed into a "super sport" until the Series 4's and 5's. It was a family coupe at best in its humble beginnings.

The first model Prince Motorcompany Skyline was built as a sports car from the beginning also.


Couple things wrong with your history... First, when Prince began making the Skyline - it was not a sports car. In fact, until Prince was absorbed by Nissan in the mid 60's the Skyline models were always second to the Gloria line. The Skyline was a slower car with a smaller, weaker engine than the Gloria (and was just a sedan - perhaps the only exception would be the "Skyline Sport" of 1961)

And I think that the RX-7 more or less took over the spot of the Cosmo sports car - which as time went on became a sedan. The RX-7 did not evolve from the RX-2 RX-3 etc.
http://www.motormagazinesha.co.jp/medialog/car/zeppan/mazda_cosmosport/image/00_01.jpg

Actually the RX did hence the reasoning it retained the "RX" in the name. Thought it did replace the cosmo it was still bourne from the RX blood lines.

You're right about the first Prince Skylines my bad. Before Nissan and Prince merged in the 1961 BLRA-3 was produced.

Now getting back to the topic and what was said. The current Skylines were based off a saloon (which the base model was but not the GTR), that being the case then the RX7 shouldn't be part of this as it evolved from the RX1 which in fact was not a sports coupe at all. The first generation "GTR" was available in both coupe and sedan models. All GTR's after that were coupe only. They were more than Coupes there were the top range available.

When the R32 came out it was a completely different platform, chassis, the lot. Just like the Series 6 RX's were from the Series 5's. The R32 was designed and built to compete in racing of production cars plain and simple. It did that so effectively many racing body's had to change the rules and regulations in order to make the other cars competitive against it. This went on until the birth of the R34 which after years and years of regulations they found ways to not only slow the GTR down but get the others up to speed.

So if the "Skyline" was not to be included it should have been so on the reasoning it is in fact the top range or was the top in the Japanese have/had to offer.

Anyways this is getting off topic.

Originally posted by NISSANSPDR
300ZX for being the most balanced

Supra coming in a close 2nd

PS: SVX would get killed in every category by all other cars

You forgot the fact that SVX is and AWD car!
You wanna race in snow?:biggrin2:

NSX:bigthumb:

I drove one when I was porter 60 miles to another dealer, almost all highway:biggrin:

i would have to pick the prettiest and most tunable car, the toyota supra. they look great and people report having up to 800 hp with stock internals! and because toyota builds it you know you can trust it.

nsx...honda reliability

NSX = blah

I dont see what is so great about these cars. When I used to autox my first gen rx-7 would always kill this guys nsx. Maybe it was just drivers, who knows.

And parts are WAY too expensive for these cars.... $2000 for a clutch? No thank you.

No Skyline huh.... then no Supra either! :D The MkIV shared the same platform as the Toyota Soarer/Lexus SC luxury coupe (Shorten wheelbase). The Soarer came first in fact.

Come on! The GT3000 and even the SVX got in but not the Skyline? :swear:

I'll take the rotary... I'll be David rather than Golaith anyday.

What the heck is the SVX doing in the poll. lol :sly:

Originally posted by genjy
What the heck is the SVX doing in the poll. lol :sly:


Because it's there stop bitching.




The Skyline misses the chop because the poll is limited to one car per maker- and the 300ZX is much more similar to these cars than the Skyline

Originally posted by Jimster

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The Skyline misses the chop because the poll is limited to one car per maker...

...as stated in the original post of course. :rolleyes: :thefinger: quit makin up rules as you go. :p

seriously though, from that list i vote NSX. it's got the exotic appeal to it, in spite of what some of you may think. yes it's overpriced and underpowered using a 10+ year old design, but you gotta give it credit for even surviving this long given the competition. and it's also an awesome car if you ever get the chance to drive one. i've driven faster more powerful cars than it, but for what it's worth, it's a remarkable machine in its own right.

I love the 3000GT but i gotta say NSX. It's is just so beautyful. Mid engine RWD. Makes you feel like your driving a ferrari. LOL i was given the priviledge to see one drive me one time. It was shocked and amazed. Wish i had 90G's to spend on one. I would spend it on a NSX in a heart beat.

*priviledge to see one drive past me*

Very nice an all, but please n't bring up old threads, especially my ones :redface:





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