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clicking noise after mortor running at tranmission


edford
12-26-2010, 06:55 PM
I got 1994 ford escort,just had a automatic tranmission put in it[ used.] Now while it runnng it makeing a clicking noise like the flex plate hitting on a screw head . zdoes this year escort, supposed to have a spacer between the starter and tranmission? Maybe a washer would help? dint do that tell my friends changed the trasmission ? thanks

denisond3
12-26-2010, 07:13 PM
Well, there should be a plate between the bellhousing of the transmission and the matching surface to that on the engine. There isnt a separate one between the starter and its mounting surface though. Other than spacing I dont see that the piece of sheet metal has any purpose. It has no threaded holes in it, and all bolts for the engine to trans and the starter support just go through it.
So if your car is missing one, then the torque converter would be held about 3/32" closer to the transmission than it should be.
It should be visible if you look at the engine-to-transmission joint.
The plate has to go on before the flywheel does; since it wont fit over the flywheel. Likewaise, it cant be removed with the flywheel still on the crankshaft.

edford
12-28-2010, 06:31 PM
ok could i put a flat washer betwen the starter and houseing where the starter hits ? I think the flex plate bolt heads is hiting on the starter barely maybe just ONE. maybe wrong bolt ??

AzTumbleweed
12-29-2010, 08:37 AM
Being very careful not to short out the cable I would start the engine then remove the bolts while it's running and see what happens, :2cents:

denisond3
12-29-2010, 08:55 AM
Why didnt I think of that!
The starter is held on by 3 bolts, two of which come through the bellhousing rim & thread into the starter, the 3rd one comes from the other direction, & threads into the bellhousing of the transaxle. If I were in your situation I would put three washers in, between the mounting surface of the starter and the transaxle. One for each bolt.
That will keep the starter from being cockeyed, but move it back the thickness of the washers. If that stops the noise without causing starter hangups, good so far. Any of those bolts on the starter & bellhousing should have at least half an inch or more of threads that they grip with. Otherwise its the wrong bolt. Its easy to get them confused, at least it is for me.

The final solution of course would be to get a flexplate and install it - if the flexplate is really missing. That would involve taking either the engine or the transmission out. A warm weather job.

Im not a mechanic by profession, am just a hobbyist. But I have taken four 2nd gen. Escort LX's drvelines apart, pulling the engines and the transmissions. In each case I bought the car knowing that either trans. or engine had to come out (which brought the price way down). But in each case it was worthwhile to me to take the engine out, just to fix things that werent right. Example; there were missing studs or missing bolts that were not obvious with the engine in the car. In one case the exhaust manifold studs (that hold the catalytic converter on) were bad - threads almost totally rusted away. One engine had only a single exhaust manifold stud; the other one broken off. One engine had a coolant leak at the intake manifold, one had a snapped off head bolt. One had a lot of bolts that snapped off rather than unscrewing, and with the engine out, I was able to drill out the broken bolts. Putting new hoses onto the water pump are easy with the engine out, NOT easy with the engine in the car. With 3 of the automatic transaxles there were stripped out threads for some bolts for its oil pan. With the transaxle tilted over on the workbench, these were easy to drill to take a helicoil thread insert. And all of the exhaust bolts & studs go back together with antisieze compound smeared on the threads.

P.S. The head bolts arent to be re-used on an Escort 1.9L, but after sawing used ones in two, they make perfect new studs for the exhaust manifold flange.

edford
12-29-2010, 06:15 PM
Being very careful not to short out the cable I would start the engine then remove the bolts while it's running and see what happens, :2cents:
You mean losen the bolts , like the thickness of a washer ? not completely taking them out. also my starter has 4 bolts 2 on front side starter 2 from the other side ,small starter but 4 bolts thanks

mightymoose_22
12-30-2010, 03:49 AM
I believe the three bolts that mount the starter are different lengths. They may have been put back in at the incorrect places.

denisond3
12-30-2010, 11:14 AM
There is a second bolt on the back side of the bell housing, between the engine and the firewall, but it doesnt hold the starter. Its just one more of the bolts between the bell housing and the flange of the block. At least thats how it is on my 1.9L LX Escorts. I dont know about GT Escorts, they may be different.

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