2004 GT1 shutoff while driving, no power at all!
HighMileage230000
11-10-2010, 11:50 AM
2004 Grand Prix GT1, 68,000 miles. When I bought this vehicle, I could tell by the cosmetics that it was in a small front end accident (new passenger headlamp and new bumper cover)
I was pulling into the gas station this morning and immediately after I cut the wheel, all the power went out. No gauges, no lights, no horn, nothing. I got out popped the hood and noticed the battery tray was apparently never secured after it was originally crashed. There is some noticeable corrosion on the positive cable, but the battery cannot be more than a few years old.
There were no noticeable differences in the way the car has driven recently, I have had it for almost a year. The only problem it has is more than likely the Wheel Speed Sensor (Service ABS and Traction system intermittently comes on). We put a voltmeter on it and it read 12.06 Volts.
Could this be a main ground wire or does this sound like something else?
I was pulling into the gas station this morning and immediately after I cut the wheel, all the power went out. No gauges, no lights, no horn, nothing. I got out popped the hood and noticed the battery tray was apparently never secured after it was originally crashed. There is some noticeable corrosion on the positive cable, but the battery cannot be more than a few years old.
There were no noticeable differences in the way the car has driven recently, I have had it for almost a year. The only problem it has is more than likely the Wheel Speed Sensor (Service ABS and Traction system intermittently comes on). We put a voltmeter on it and it read 12.06 Volts.
Could this be a main ground wire or does this sound like something else?
BNaylor
11-10-2010, 05:20 PM
Regardless best thing to do is have the battery load tested. Also, check the positive cable from the battery to the main engine compartment fuse box. Red lead on top. The ground termination point is at the area where the engine and transaxle mate up front end so check the connection.
Was the 12.06 volts across the battery positive and negative terminals, ignition to OFF?
Was the 12.06 volts across the battery positive and negative terminals, ignition to OFF?
ecartman
11-10-2010, 09:16 PM
2004 Grand Prix GT1, 68,000 miles. When I bought this vehicle, I could tell by the cosmetics that it was in a small front end accident (new passenger headlamp and new bumper cover)
I was pulling into the gas station this morning and immediately after I cut the wheel, all the power went out. No gauges, no lights, no horn, nothing. I got out popped the hood and noticed the battery tray was apparently never secured after it was originally crashed. There is some noticeable corrosion on the positive cable, but the battery cannot be more than a few years old.
There were no noticeable differences in the way the car has driven recently, I have had it for almost a year. The only problem it has is more than likely the Wheel Speed Sensor (Service ABS and Traction system intermittently comes on). We put a voltmeter on it and it read 12.06 Volts.
Could this be a main ground wire or does this sound like something else?
Had the exact same thing happen to my 04 except it was accompanied by a "charging system failure" message on the DIC shortly before losing all power.
I found my fix in a bulletin but that was almost four years ago and I can't find a copy at the moment so I'll just go from memory. By performing the following procedure I also eliminated a number of electrical gremlins I was chasing at the time so keep this in mind when diagnosing random/intermittent electrical problems on these cars.
At the negative battery post, follow the small black wire to the point where it bolts to the body at the frame rail next to the battery (not sure about other years but on my 04 this is the only ground connection between the battery and the body of the car, the larger cable bolts to the engine). Remove the bolt and clean this connection and the bolt thoroughly then sand a small circle around the bolt hole to bare metal the same diameter as the bolt head to increase the area for the ground to contact. Re secure the connection then coat the bolt head/connection and surrounding area with grease to keep the moisture out.
Hope this helps you out, Good Luck!
I was pulling into the gas station this morning and immediately after I cut the wheel, all the power went out. No gauges, no lights, no horn, nothing. I got out popped the hood and noticed the battery tray was apparently never secured after it was originally crashed. There is some noticeable corrosion on the positive cable, but the battery cannot be more than a few years old.
There were no noticeable differences in the way the car has driven recently, I have had it for almost a year. The only problem it has is more than likely the Wheel Speed Sensor (Service ABS and Traction system intermittently comes on). We put a voltmeter on it and it read 12.06 Volts.
Could this be a main ground wire or does this sound like something else?
Had the exact same thing happen to my 04 except it was accompanied by a "charging system failure" message on the DIC shortly before losing all power.
I found my fix in a bulletin but that was almost four years ago and I can't find a copy at the moment so I'll just go from memory. By performing the following procedure I also eliminated a number of electrical gremlins I was chasing at the time so keep this in mind when diagnosing random/intermittent electrical problems on these cars.
At the negative battery post, follow the small black wire to the point where it bolts to the body at the frame rail next to the battery (not sure about other years but on my 04 this is the only ground connection between the battery and the body of the car, the larger cable bolts to the engine). Remove the bolt and clean this connection and the bolt thoroughly then sand a small circle around the bolt hole to bare metal the same diameter as the bolt head to increase the area for the ground to contact. Re secure the connection then coat the bolt head/connection and surrounding area with grease to keep the moisture out.
Hope this helps you out, Good Luck!
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