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Need to see a picture of Honda RC211V engine...


Zonic2001
10-14-2010, 01:11 PM
I'm putting together a Tamiya 1/12 scale Honda RC211V motoGP plastic kit and will like to see pictures of the real engine and its wirring, specially spark plug wirring. Anyone has pictures that can share with me? I looked on line and it shows very few pictures of the real full size engine but all wirring has been removed. That is of no help for me at this moment. I also ordered Pit Walk Photo Collection MotoGP Archive book but is going to take a couple, maybe three weeks to get to me. I'm anxious of starting the plastic kit... anyone wants to help and send me pictures or send me a link???? Thanks in anticipation. :)

Zonic2001
10-18-2010, 09:14 AM
Nobody has a picture of the real engine with the wires? :(

Froride1
10-18-2010, 11:32 AM
Did you try typing RC211V engine into google images? I got about 10,000 photos of the engine.

People like to help but do a little research yourself, that is what the internet is for.

Zonic2001
10-18-2010, 01:27 PM
Finish your search and click on each of the motocycle pictures you got in google image, why? because I already did a long time ago, none show the engine with all wires. Yes dude, I did my homework first before I posted in here and couldn't find anything. My initial posting says... "...I looked on-line..." but thank for your posting! c-ya

racer93
10-18-2010, 01:32 PM
I hate it when people say, "Google it!" most of the time because yes, there were ~10,000 results. However, most of it is junk and pics of the Tamiya model. I found less than 10 good pics, none with wiring. I've found this with a bunch of different cars and bikes. :banghead:

My suggestions are three: Buy the Pitwalk Guide for the year you want, go to www.onetwelvth.com (http://www.onetwelvth.com) and look up reference pics, or go to www.motomodeling.com (http://www.motomodeling.com). The Pitwalk Guide is expensive (~$40 or so) but will give you ALL the pics you will ever need and more. The other sites will give you some good ideas, if nothing else.

Daniel

PS--Ack! I didn't see you'd ordered the Pitwalk guides...sorry 'bout that! ;)

Zonic2001
10-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Yes, I ordered the book. Thanks for your posting. I already looked into "onetuelvth" webpage, very informative but still no pictures of engine with wiring or a close up of the bike without the cowlings so I can see the engine with the wires. :( One person in here WIP posted pictures of his plastic model but I think his spark plug wires are installed incorrectly hence why I'm looking for a real engine picture. I looked before at motomodeling.com and I don't remember seen what I'm looking for but will look again. Thanks for the recommendations. :) Believe me, I have spent many, many, many and again... many hours on-line looking and can't find it hence why I purchase the book which BTW is very expensive... way over $40... like 1.5 time that :( I hope is worth it. The one I got is a 2006.

Charon87
10-18-2010, 02:43 PM
5 minutes searching on Google
http://www.google.cz/images?q=honda+RC211V+engine&um=1&hl=cs&rls=com.microsoft:cs&tbs=isch:1&ei=65-8TM6RCo6A4Qai-43uDQ&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=20
http://forum.motorcycle-usa.com/pr.aspx?f=24&m=229698
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/motor_gp_2003/index.html
http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4997
http://www.desiwalls.com/page/173/
http://www.gizmag.com/go/6262/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Honda_V5_Moto_GP_Engine_(cropped).jpg

racer93
10-18-2010, 03:06 PM
5 minutes searching on Google
http://www.google.cz/images?q=honda+RC211V+engine&um=1&hl=cs&rls=com.microsoft:cs&tbs=isch:1&ei=65-8TM6RCo6A4Qai-43uDQ&sa=N&start=0&ndsp=20
http://forum.motorcycle-usa.com/pr.aspx?f=24&m=229698
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/motor_gp_2003/index.html
http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4997
http://www.desiwalls.com/page/173/
http://www.gizmag.com/go/6262/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Honda_V5_Moto_GP_Engine_(cropped).jpg

Congrats! You didn't find anything he was looking for. :banghead:

I had the same problems you did in finding pics. The Pitwalk Guides are the way to go. It's great because they not only have the Honda, but also every other bike that ran that year. Detail pics of EVERY ASPECT of the bikes. They're definitely worth it. I have '04, '06 and the 500cc machines (up to '03).

Daniel

kans0002
10-18-2010, 03:17 PM
Hey Zonic2001,

Welcome to AF fellow Jacksonville-ian!

Stu

Zonic2001
10-18-2010, 03:17 PM
Key word is "wiring", none show pictures of wiring except the gizmag site and it shows the spark plug wires from the side, picture #40 if I'm not mistaken. Is an Ok picture. Thanks are in order! That is better than I could find. Still can't tell to what part of the boot the wire is connected to, side or ????. Evidently you have a better search engine than I do. I look at all the links you sent, thanks but none of the other sites show the engine (RC211V) with the wiring specially spark plugs. Plenty of bike pics and wireless engines but that I do have. Since you are better at it than I do, can you find one picture of a top view of spark plugs wiring on an RC211V engine? That is the perfect shot that I need. I'm looking to see where I need to connect the spark plug wires to the black boots covering the plugs. The black boots are round with a flat sylindrical piece sticking out... of the 5 plugs three are pointing to the bottom and two are pointing to the top of the valve covers. Should I connect there, flat cylindrical portion of the boot? Or to the side as pic #40 seems to show? That seems odd tho. Again, I'm not Japanese nor an expert in motos, hence me asking in here, to the experts.

Zonic2001
10-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Cool... we are neighbors!!! Are you into bike modeling? PM me or e-mail me.

Zonic2001
10-18-2010, 03:23 PM
Dan... you are so right!!! LOL I jusdt need to hold my frustration and wait intil I get the book. I PM you. Need advise on modeling.

luke76
10-18-2010, 07:24 PM
I'm in the same boat. I am currently working on the 06 RC211V with the TS detail set and can find no worthy pictures of the bike stripped down. I found one copy of the pit walk for 2006, but I will be damned if I'm paying $70 plus shipping for it.

I have the 04 pit walk, and even though there were changes, a lot was remained unchanged. The 06 RC211V was the end of the development cycle. The bike Pedrosa ran was essentially a modified 05 version. Hayden's bike however went through more modifications than you can shake a stick at during 06 (a majority of them clutches). I'll take a look in my 04 pit walk and see if I can find some pictures. If I do I'll scan them up for you.

Good luck with your build.

racer93
10-18-2010, 10:50 PM
I'm in the same boat. I am currently working on the 06 RC211V with the TS detail set and can find no worthy pictures of the bike stripped down. I found one copy of the pit walk for 2006, but I will be damned if I'm paying $70 plus shipping for it.

I have the 04 pit walk, and even though there were changes, a lot was remained unchanged. The 06 RC211V was the end of the development cycle. The bike Pedrosa ran was essentially a modified 05 version. Hayden's bike however went through more modifications than you can shake a stick at during 06 (a majority of them clutches). I'll take a look in my 04 pit walk and see if I can find some pictures. If I do I'll scan them up for you.

Good luck with your build.

The Hayden version is A LOT different from the Tamiya kit and has specific parts from the TS kit. The pitwalk guide even has an entire section on Hayden's vs Pedrosa's hondas. The electronics are set up differently, etc. It's kinda odd...

Zonic2001
10-19-2010, 08:56 AM
I'm in the same boat. I am currently working on the 06 RC211V with the TS detail set and can find no worthy pictures of the bike stripped down. I found one copy of the pit walk for 2006, but I will be damned if I'm paying $70 plus shipping for it.

I have the 04 pit walk, and even though there were changes, a lot was remained unchanged. The 06 RC211V was the end of the development cycle. The bike Pedrosa ran was essentially a modified 05 version. Hayden's bike however went through more modifications than you can shake a stick at during 06 (a majority of them clutches). I'll take a look in my 04 pit walk and see if I can find some pictures. If I do I'll scan them up for you.

Good luck with your build.

Thanks a lot in anticipation!!!! :)

Zonic2001
10-19-2010, 08:57 AM
Hey Zonic2001,

Welcome to AF fellow Jacksonville-ian!

Stu

U got a PM :)

Zonic2001
10-19-2010, 09:00 AM
I'm in the same boat. I am currently working on the 06 RC211V with the TS detail set and can find no worthy pictures of the bike stripped down. I found one copy of the pit walk for 2006, but I will be damned if I'm paying $70 plus shipping for it.

I have the 04 pit walk, and even though there were changes, a lot was remained unchanged. The 06 RC211V was the end of the development cycle. The bike Pedrosa ran was essentially a modified 05 version. Hayden's bike however went through more modifications than you can shake a stick at during 06 (a majority of them clutches). I'll take a look in my 04 pit walk and see if I can find some pictures. If I do I'll scan them up for you.

Good luck with your build.

I'm working on the same bike with the TS set too. Good luck to you too. Those tinny PE pieces are driving me crazy specially when they fly away, even taping it sometimes don't hold them in place. LOL

luke76
10-19-2010, 08:35 PM
I am not sure of the copy write rules here. If this is against the rules (mods) please remove and I will find an alternative way to share the image.

This is the BEST photo that is in the pit walk. Unfortunately it is not very good.

The only thing I can tell is the plug wires come off of the back side and hook around and to the left under the frame and exit by the left hand fairing stay (image 30 lower right). From there, well, good luck :icon16:

I would imagine that they would somehow need to route to the batter in front of the oil sump. How they manage to get there is beyond me.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h158/wolfpac52/scan0001.jpg

On a thread hijack, do you guys attend any shows in Jacksonville? I have a buddy who lives there, it's about a four hour drive for me, and I would like to see other peoples work in person.

luke76
10-19-2010, 08:39 PM
I'm working on the same bike with the TS set too. Good luck to you too. Those tinny PE pieces are driving me crazy specially when they fly away, even taping it sometimes don't hold them in place. LOL

I thought I would be high speed and bought the TS chain set as well. Set up on the table, grab three small dishes and start separating. Read over the instructions and went into the garage to get my hammer and a pair of pliers. I sit down and start looking for the cup that had the rollers in it, it's nowhere. I look under the table and my wife's cat is batting the upside down cup around like a soccer ball.

Pissed off does not even begin to describe the emotions :frown:

As soon as I get into the meat of the build I'll start posting pics.

kans0002
10-20-2010, 07:56 AM
On a thread hijack, do you guys attend any shows in Jacksonville?

I go to our annual IPMS show every year. It is pretty good. The show is always around Valentine's Day. (much to my gf's dismay):lol:

Zonic2001
10-20-2010, 09:56 AM
I am not sure of the copy write rules here. If this is against the rules (mods) please remove and I will find an alternative way to share the image.

This is the BEST photo that is in the pit walk. Unfortunately it is not very good.

The only thing I can tell is the plug wires come off of the back side and hook around and to the left under the frame and exit by the left hand fairing stay (image 30 lower right). From there, well, good luck :icon16:

I would imagine that they would somehow need to route to the batter in front of the oil sump. How they manage to get there is beyond me.

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h158/wolfpac52/scan0001.jpg

On a thread hijack, do you guys attend any shows in Jacksonville? I have a buddy who lives there, it's about a four hour drive for me, and I would like to see other peoples work in person.

Luke, you are my IDOL!!!!!! EXCELLENT pictures!!!!! This is what I was looking for. :grinyes: Thanks a lot bud!

Zonic2001
10-20-2010, 09:57 AM
I thought I would be high speed and bought the TS chain set as well. Set up on the table, grab three small dishes and start separating. Read over the instructions and went into the garage to get my hammer and a pair of pliers. I sit down and start looking for the cup that had the rollers in it, it's nowhere. I look under the table and my wife's cat is batting the upside down cup around like a soccer ball.

Pissed off does not even begin to describe the emotions :frown:

As soon as I get into the meat of the build I'll start posting pics.

Oh nooooooo!!!!!!! :banghead:

Zonic2001
10-20-2010, 10:02 AM
I go to our annual IPMS show every year. It is pretty good. The show is always around Valentine's Day. (much to my gf's dismay):lol:

Is it worth the $25 to be a member of the IPMS? Where is that yearly show at? I look into their website and can't find it. It must be a state show or local thing, I guess, let me know.

Zonic2001
10-20-2010, 10:26 AM
Luke... I'm new to this so I don't know of any shows in Jax but it seems that kans002 know more about an IPMS show hence my posting on the location. Let see what he says. :)

kans0002
10-20-2010, 02:21 PM
Luis - you do not have to be a member to attend the show. If you want to just look around it is totally free. If you want to enter your models i think it is around 15 bucks (dont qoute me on that).

Luke, sucks about that chain...that is why I am a dog person. =) my big old lab just lays next to my chair while i model away...

Check out: http://www.ipms-firstcoast.com/home.htm and look for Jaxcon.

HTH

Stu

Zonic2001
10-20-2010, 03:33 PM
Luis - you do not have to be a member to attend the show. If you want to just look around it is totally free. If you want to enter your models i think it is around 15 bucks (dont qoute me on that).

Luke, sucks about that chain...that is why I am a dog person. =) my big old lab just lays next to my chair while i model away...

Check out: http://www.ipms-firstcoast.com/home.htm and look for Jaxcon.

HTH

Stu

Great info on the local modeler's show. Yeah, I'll go to it. Good luck in the model you are putting together for the show.

luke76
10-20-2010, 07:15 PM
Thanks for the link Kans. I will keep a watch out for it. If I can build something I feel is worthy to enter I will give it a shot (are we ever really completely happy with a build?).

Zonic - If you need any more pics let me know I will be more than happy to help out.

Thanks guys!

Erik

Zonic2001
10-21-2010, 10:15 AM
luke76 - Thank YOU!!!! :)

John18d
10-22-2010, 10:31 PM
Not sure if you found the pictures you wanted, but I can tell you one thing - their are no "plug wires" per say - the mini coils mount directly above the spark plug and the only wires that run to the individual mini coils are very small wires that come the the engine management box - I don't have any pics of this myself as the Honda guys would not let me photograph their bike at the Moto GP at Laguna Seca - but I have seen it up close personally. - John

Zonic2001
10-25-2010, 09:13 AM
Not sure if you found the pictures you wanted, but I can tell you one thing - their are no "plug wires" per say - the mini coils mount directly above the spark plug and the only wires that run to the individual mini coils are very small wires that come the the engine management box - I don't have any pics of this myself as the Honda guys would not let me photograph their bike at the Moto GP at Laguna Seca - but I have seen it up close personally. - John

Interesting, thanks John!

Zonic2001
10-29-2010, 02:44 PM
I'm at the point that I have to assemble the chain. Bought a Top Studio chain set and after reading a lot on-line and getting many of you all modeler's suggestions, I got to the conclussion after trying it for many nights that I'm not good at it. Is anyone interested in putting it together for me? Please PM me. Thanks!

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