To summarize, buy a 924 Jay, they're cheap, reliable and have about as much potential as you could want in any give direction. You can always swap a fuel injected V8 into one, if you crave blistering speed...

An interesting note, it's not difficult to swap the 5 cylinder from an S4/S6 into one. That engine was capable of hauling a 1700 kilo Audi from 0-100 km/h in about 6 seconds, think of what it could do in a 1000 kilo 924... ;)

So how does this grab you?

http://www.fiberwerks.com/_borders/100616.jpg

oooh I like that!

That would be a completely bolt on/glue on kit for the car in my signature, that would weigh somewhere around 1000kilos with the interior intact, and the air conditioning running.

Let's see the costs, I'll tally it in USD, and then convert it to pounds...

1981/82 931 $2000
Full FG/CF body kit, lexan hatch $5000
Engine rebuild, 300 bhp $2000
Suspension upgrades $2000
Misc updates* $1000

* 968 door handles, mirrors, lightweight seats...

12K all in all, to take a 924 Turbo about as far as it can go. Well, you could rebuild the engine to Carrera GTR specs, which is 375bhp, but I don't know how long it would last. I think that comes out at about 8K pounds sterling (sorry, don't know the right symbol :( )

Of course, you can do these things 1 by 1 if you'd like, or you could not spend the 12K on it, and instead invest in...

81/82 931 $2000
boost controller intercooler, 250bhp $300
stiffer springs/torsion bars $300
lighten where you can, new seats etc $500

There you have a compently fast car, 0-60 in around 6 seconds, handles like a dream, but is still reliable, for under $3000... that's 2000 pounds I do believe.

£ <-- Pounds symbol. Very good converting! :) That is a bargain!

They're rare too, but not that hard to find. You should buy a few, they might just increase in value... it's not like they can decrease in value anymore... :D

mmm.... a couple of bays in the garage with 944's and 924's in them... :p Then I could clean them all the time. :D

I'll confess to never having driven a front-engined Porsche; my experiences are limited to 914's and 356C's. Did get a short but brisk ride in the RH seat of a 968 last summer....nice.

Never drove a Jensen, either -- but was rooting for the SV8 to succeed, even though I was figuring a curb weight above what I'd accept in a car.

(Trivia note: Tigers were aseembled by Jensen, our cars get two serial # plates, the second with a Jensen Assembly Line #.)

was it a standard 968, a sport, or a club sport?

Originally posted by crayzayjay
was it a standard 968, a sport, or a club sport?

Not certain -- but likely a "standard" 968.

What are the differences?

Standard 968 - popular in the states, high spec equipment

968 Sport - UK only - more spartan accomodation than standard 968, so less weight resulting in better performance & sharper handling

968 Club Sport - stripped out racer, no electronic equipment or luxuries, race seats, no rear bench, lower suspension and much lower kerb weight, all resulting in phenomenal, neutral handling. One of the best handling cars out there regardless of cost. Less than 2000 Club Sports were built, there's a nice yellow one on my street.

968 Turbo S - the most potent of all 968 road cars, a turbocharged homologation special with 305 bhp and a massive 369lb/ft of torque. 175mph+ , phenomenal car in terms of stats & handling.

It's interesting to note the M030 equipped Club Sports, and even the Turbo S had very weak spring rates, and small torsion bars. With a new set of springs, the 968 quickly becomes one of the best handling cars you can buy. That includes Ferraris, and even Lotus :D

The 944 isn't too special, except for the 951, and 944S2. The 951 was capable of 400+ hp, and has a very large following of racers. The 968 is also a rare car, they only made about 12,000, and they're really quite reasonably priced these days.

Of course, with your resources, JSB88, you should be looking at a 924 Carrera GTS ;)

http://www.cantonia.com/images/924_carrera_gts.jpg

Originally posted by Cbass
It's interesting to note the M030 equipped Club Sports, and even the Turbo S had very weak spring rates, and small torsion bars. With a new set of springs, the 968 quickly becomes one of the best handling cars you can buy. That includes Ferraris, and even Lotus :D

The standard 968 is one of the best handling cars you can buy, before any changes are made. Ferrari & Lotus are by no means as superior as you may think when it comes to great-handling cars. Remember the 348? Some versions of the Esprit leave a lot to be desired too


Originally posted by Cbass

Of course, with your resources, JSB88, you should be looking at a 924 Carrera GTS ;)



No way, 968 Club Sport all the way! :D

I was referring to the best cars that Ferrari and Lotus make/have made.

For the record, the GTS is much cooler than the 968 Club Sport, especially since the 924 GTS Club Sport makes 270bhp :P

http://www.mathewscollection.com/Porsche_924.htm

Ok the Club Sport "only" makes 240bhp, which is 30 steeds less, but it weighs next to nothing so it would kill it on the road/track!! :D


If thats still not enough the 305bhp Turbo S would humiliate it!! :p

here's a nice tribute to the Turbo S:

http://vista.pca.org/stl/968t.htm

enjoy!

I like that 968S, because of the rounder bodywork.

The Turbo does look pretty pumped :D

You like it JSB88? Hmm, perhaps we can convert you to a patron of the 924/944/968 series :hehehe:

http://www.968.net/images/images.htm

http://www.968.net/modifications/motec_turbo.htm

you can try :D

All he'd have to do is drive a Turbo S, or Club Sport and you can rest assured he'll be converted! :D

mmm.... I know people with 944's...

Ah, I don't know anyone with a Carrera GT in the UK...

I do know of a good 931 for sale though...

http://www.911virgin.com/924turbo.htm

Needs a new interior, methinks...

Is that front bumper standard?


definitely needs a new interior.... the guy didnt even bother to clean it up a bit

tut tut... not looking very good at all. :( Nasty interior!

Yeah, that interior is a really bad example...

How about this one?

http://www.megadose.net/968/images/interior1-lg.jpg

But you'll probably like this one even more, mainly because the steering wheel is on the wrong side :P

http://www.porsche944turbo.co.uk/Interior.htm

Originally posted by crayzayjay
Ok the Club Sport "only" makes 240bhp, which is 30 steeds less, but it weighs next to nothing so it would kill it on the road/track!! :D


If thats still not enough the 305bhp Turbo S would humiliate it!! :p

here's a nice tribute to the Turbo S:

http://vista.pca.org/stl/968t.htm

enjoy!

Oops, didn't notice this post was referring to the GTS!

Actually, the GTS CS is some 600 lbs lighter than the 968 Club Sport, compare 2250 to 2850. Yes, the Turbo S does have a slight power advantage, but the weight kind of makes up for it. Besides, a good EFI 931 engine should be capable of 300+ hp as well. :D

Originally posted by Cbass
Yeah, that interior is a really bad example...

How about this one?

http://www.megadose.net/968/images/interior1-lg.jpg

But you'll probably like this one even more, mainly because the steering wheel is on the wrong side :P

http://www.porsche944turbo.co.uk/Interior.htm

now thats more like it... much more like it :D

Yeah, it's my ambition to make a fiberglass copy of that dash for my 924... skin it in padded leather, it'll look nice :D

Originally posted by Cbass


Oops, didn't notice this post was referring to the GTS!

Actually, the GTS CS is some 600 lbs lighter than the 968 Club Sport, compare 2250 to 2850. Yes, the Turbo S does have a slight power advantage, but the weight kind of makes up for it. Besides, a good EFI 931 engine should be capable of 300+ hp as well. :D

ive never heard of a 968 GTS Club Sport... maybe thats an america only model? our club sport was called simply 968 club sport....

so now there are:
1) 968
2) 968 Sport (UK)
3) 968 Club Sport
4) 968 GTS Club Sport???
5) 968 Turbo S

correct me if thats wrong

No, the GTS Clubsport is a 924 Carrera GTS Club Sport :hehehe:

Over here, we don't have a 968 Sport model either, just the 968 and the Club sport... I don't know if we ever got one or more Turbo S...

My intentions are to rebuild a 931 engine(which I have waiting for me) to GTS CS specs, but hopefully using EFI, instead of the original Bosch K-jetronic CIS...

These are the seats I want... this is what my interior will look like :D

http://jimweb.free.fr/interior.jpg

This is the GTS CS

http://www.mathewscollection.com/images/porsche/924gts_450.jpg

Originally posted by Cbass
Yeah, it's my ambition to make a fiberglass copy of that dash for my 924... skin it in padded leather, it'll look nice :D

It'll look VERY nice but wont be an easy job.... good luck! :D

Originally posted by Cbass
No, the GTS Clubsport is a 924 Carrera GTS Club Sport :hehehe:

Over here, we don't have a 968 Sport model either, just the 968 and the Club sport... I don't know if we ever got one or more Turbo S...

My intentions are to rebuild a 931 engine(which I have waiting for me) to GTS CS specs, but hopefully using EFI, instead of the original Bosch K-jetronic CIS...


ahh.... :hehehe: its sunday, im still asleep!

It's 6:30 in the morning here, and I haven't had my coffee yet! How do you think I feel? :hehehe:

Originally posted by Cbass
These are the seats I want... this is what my interior will look like :D

http://jimweb.free.fr/interior.jpg



seats are very nice... they look very supportive, which is the most important thing... if you manage to get that beige leather in there it'll look even better

Nah, I want an all black interior... goes with the paint scheme of the car, guards red paint, and black accents and trim :D

Those are the infamous Porsche Sport seats, only replaced during the 993 years... They are supposed to be imprisoning seats, they grab ahold of you, and keep you there...

After sitting in the regular leather Porsche Recaros, I can't imagine how well those sport seats must grip you... :D

all i know is the new seats are very, very supportive. the buckets are great

:D

http://www.911pcar.com/porsche_parts_interiors_seats.htm

Originally posted by Cbass
It's 6:30 in the morning here, and I haven't had my coffee yet! How do you think I feel? :hehehe:

damn! u crazy! what time d'you wake up? i had difficulty getting up at 12:30pm!

Haha, actually, I woke up at around 4 am... That's because I went to bed at 9pm... Crazy, no... I have a good reason ;)

Yesterday, I got out of bed at 2:30 pm... I have to go back to school, and go to work too... Can't do both if I'm getting up at nearly 3 in the afternoon :(

I like that interior!!!

Originally posted by Cbass
Haha, actually, I woke up at around 4 am... That's because I went to bed at 9pm... Crazy, no... I have a good reason ;)

Yesterday, I got out of bed at 2:30 pm... I have to go back to school, and go to work too... Can't do both if I'm getting up at nearly 3 in the afternoon :(

Damn! you sound busy.... i've had the last week off work... i've rediscovered sleeping in :D :D

I could sleep in all year round if I wanted!

now thats just mean i have to go back to work on wednesday :(

I might be working too soon anyway.

Better than not having work... I'm out of work right now, can't afford insurance :( Poor neglected Porsche :(

Poor you, dont put the car ahead of yourself! :p

Fack, the car is the only thing that keeps me sane :hehehe:

Well, mostly sane :hehehe:

and to think I have been refusing jobs! :( maybe you could have one.

umm.. why does it say Porsche N*zi in your sig?

Ask Hybridsol :D

I dont know Hybridsol, why dontcha jus tell me

Well, according to HybribSol, I love nothing that is not a Porsche, or first generation RX7... This makes me a Porsche/RX7 nazi in his eyes... That and I'm a Nationalist, and a right wing Socialist, making me a National Socialist, or Nazi. A fanatical Nazi at that.

You can easily see the simularities in the design of this compared to some TVR's IMO.. But hell, they are both english.. ;)

Last I read, Jensen was bought by their largest dealer who took the remaining cars, assembled them and then sold them. AFAIK, he still owns the rights though there is no factory or product in the foreseeable future. A google search should give his name.

if you jensen lovers would look up hemmings motor news on the net you would find jensen cars with 440 chrysler motors they look good and run very fast and sometimes dont cost all that much

thank you for the link !
it's a very cool car !