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Aftermarket parts for a Dodge Viper!


Darkwing
04-25-2003, 08:24 PM
You want to talk about some expensive shit! Check this out:

Viper Spoilers (http://secureprocessing.net/PartsRack/WebShop/store/categoryitems.tmpl?Category=Aerodynamics)

Everything must cost 10 times as much on a viper! Sheesh!:grey:

Midnight Racer
04-25-2003, 09:34 PM
If you have enough money for a viper you can buy any of those.

SilverLotus340R
04-25-2003, 10:56 PM
not only are they WAY expensive but they are extremly ugly..that first product...the adjustible lip thing..it adds like a foot onto the front

SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-25-2003, 11:11 PM
Yea, that front spoiler is pretty bad... IMO, none of the rear spoilers really look good either. I kind of like the last spoiler on the page, second item from the bottom. It is actually a spoiler and not a wing. But I think Vipers look best without any major add-ons...

SuPeRcAr_MaN
04-25-2003, 11:12 PM
And BTW, wouldn't the Viper forums be a good place for this. It definitely isn't off-topic...

JD@af
04-26-2003, 01:54 AM
Yeah, tell me about it. It's amazing how much these companices charge for stuf like this when they are selling to a typically "wealthy" market. My buddy drives a '95 M3, and is going to sell it, simply because as much as he loves the car, all the custom aftermarket parts for it are just insanely expensive (he did put nitrous into the car, which is generally a universal power adder, and therefore wasn't that expensive).

I've seen similar price markups from Kleemann, who makes these amazing supercharger systems for Benzes. They are, IMO, bar-none the best aftermarket supercharger systems money can buy (and are actually better than just about any factory supercharger system I have seen too). You will see similar price markups even for Honda aftermarket systems, when you look at supercharger systems that Jackson Racing makes for Civics, Integras and other B series equipped cars, and then Preludes (note that they charge progressively more money as the prices of the cars increases, thouhg granted the systems mey use larger superchargers and more complicated hardware as prices increase also), and then look at how cheap they are when compared to what CompTech charges for superchargers for the S2000, and even more for the NSX.

tomlong
04-26-2003, 02:15 AM
shouldnt this be in the VIper Forum?

JD@af
04-26-2003, 02:21 AM
Well since two of you have mentioned it, I guess I'll go ahead and redirect this thread to the Viper Forum (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/f16/).

For the record, I was leaving it here, as it did serve as an off topic thread for people who don't usually look into this sort of thing. I mean the real topic here is not specifically Vipers per se, but rather the outlandish prices of their aftermarket equipment.

viper0007
06-16-2003, 09:38 PM
I own a dodge viper venom and the prices on the aftermarket accessories are not that bad, these vendors do not charge a ton of money because we are wealthy people! thats really a stupid thing to say.the parts are for racing, and you pay for the quality and r&d of the product. I bought my venom body from hennessey..front bumper/rear bumper/wing = 30,000.00 unpainted and why? because the parts are quality pro racing equipment made out of carbon fiber and not cheap fiberglass or heavy plastic. Get the facts straight before you go bashing viper owners for being stupid with there money, trust me if we were stupid with our money like most ricers out there then we wouldnt have very much money then would we?

Patrick Mullins
21 years old
1993 Venom Viper rt-10
2003 Viper srt-10

JD
06-17-2003, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by viper0007
I own a dodge viper venom and the prices on the aftermarket accessories are not that bad, these vendors do not charge a ton of money because we are wealthy people! thats really a stupid thing to say.the parts are for racing, and you pay for the quality and r&d of the product. I bought my venom body from hennessey..front bumper/rear bumper/wing = 30,000.00 unpainted and why? because the parts are quality pro racing equipment made out of carbon fiber and not cheap fiberglass or heavy plastic.Hi yes, I was responding to your invitation for a shitstorm? :smooch:
Originally posted by viper0007
Get the facts straight before you go bashing viper owners for being stupid with there money, trust me if we were stupid with our money like most ricers out there then we wouldnt have very much money then would we?Come on, guy. YOU should get the facts straight. Check up on the evolution of the ridiculous pricing of parts for NASCAR and Top Fuel drag racing. Its all about advertisement. The research and development costs play a role, that's true, but it is not a significant source of the high cost. You think that a single titanium valve spring for a Top Fuel car, at $400 a pop, that is a throw-away item after just 8 runs, because of research and development, quality control, and what have you (this, by the way, is a rhetorical question)? Its all about the markup.

Now granted, that argument doesn't fit this case perfectly, as your high priced parts are not marketed for the advertising of having cars running around on TV with their company logos on competitive cars. But these kind of high prices are birthed in the same spirit as the markups for parts for professional racing series cars.

You can argue your point in this until you are blue in the face, but so far you have yet to present any compelling "empirical" evidence, demonstrative of such a large sum of money. A new set of bumpers and a rear wing for $30K.. I fail to see that as a set of items worthy of that kind of price. I know that carbon fiber is expensive. I am aware that it is a muli-layer fabric that must be cured for severaly hours at high temperature and high pressure to set properly in the desired shape. Even with hours spent on wind tunnel R&D, I am not seeing it. I mean the guy is not making five of sets of these things. They are for relatively mass quantity production (granted that number could be only in the hundreds) ...and I still don't see it.

You can talk smack all day long about how ricers are stupid for how they spend their money... but I have yet to meet one to throw down $30K for a couple bumbers and a spoiler. Even made of carbon fiber, I have usually seen bumpers, spoilers, etc. for $400 to $600 a pop. I stand by the "opinion" that your items are as costly as they are because the manufacturers know they are producing products for a wealthy market. On the other hand, no one could sell a set of carbon fiber bumpers and a spoiler for a Mustang or Civic at $30K.

I'll conclude by saying that at times, I know I am sounding rude, sarcastic, and a little all over the place above. I am actually trying to make a legitimate point here, and here it is: $30,000 is an awful lot of money, even considering the research and development costs. If you are convinced that was money well-spent, so be it, have fun. But I don't think that you can show anyone else in this thread a sufficient amount of "research and development" billing expenses, to support such outlandish pricing in the opinions of the rest of us.

viper0007
06-17-2003, 09:26 PM
The main reason that the price is so high for the Venom body is because it is a patened desighn that only "venom vipers" can own..this body actually increases the value of the car dramatically unlike many other aftermarket accessories.

I own a 50,000.00 Mazda Miata with sooo many ridiculous aftermarket items and custom body/interior work..i am not bashing ricers...the miata was a waste of money but i love that cara and i think it was worth it.

RedSnakeGTS
07-08-2003, 04:19 AM
Originally posted by viper0007
Patrick Mullins
21 years old
1993 Venom Viper rt-10
2003 Viper srt-10

first of all, who puts their age in their sig? you are one arrogant MF i must say! and then, you spent 30k on an unpainted hennessey body kit, and say you are "smart" with your money? haha, his body kit is listed at 15k and i know if you called him up you could get it for 8. then 50k on a miata? hello?? can somebody raise the gigantic BS flag on this one :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Sgt. Snatch
07-08-2003, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by RedSnakeGTS


first of all, who puts their age in their sig? you are one arrogant MF i must say! and then, you spent 30k on an unpainted hennessey body kit, and say you are "smart" with your money? haha, his body kit is listed at 15k and i know if you called him up you could get it for 8. then 50k on a miata? hello?? can somebody raise the gigantic BS flag on this one :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I agree this idiot is full of garbage. I'll raise the flag on this one as well. Who would buy stuff from Hennessey anyway?? :redface: :rolleyes:

v10_viper
07-10-2003, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by Sgt. Snatch


I agree this idiot is full of garbage. I'll raise the flag on this one as well. Who would buy stuff from Hennessey anyway?? :redface: :rolleyes:

I'll agree on the fact that it must be bs too unless he can back it up, but at 21 years old, owning TWO Vipers??

Anyway, I would buy stuff from Hennessy, nothing wrong with him except that he's a giant crook, he has fast cars and great products, if I knew I could get a car or some products from him, I'd buy them.

RedSnakeGTS
07-10-2003, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by v10_viper


I'll agree on the fact that it must be bs too unless he can back it up, but at 21 years old, owning TWO Vipers??

Anyway, I would buy stuff from Hennessy, nothing wrong with him except that he's a giant crook, he has fast cars and great products, if I knew I could get a car or some products from him, I'd buy them.

i can assure you that at him being 21 isnt out of the question. it is his arrogance that gets to me. as far as hennessey goes, why would you bother wasting your time, taking the risk, or contributing to somebody who has cost the viper community hundreds of thousands of dollars? the thing is, he is GREAT at what he does, but so is heffner and DLM, and they arent cooks.

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